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Yard Names
Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:32 PM
As I read a lot of train info, the names of different train yards are mentioned. Some names make sense,like when the yard and the town have the same name. So far,so good. But where do some of these names come from? For example, Pig's Eye Yard, in I believe St. Paul.Minn.? How about some others?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:51 PM
A friend of mine in the Twin Cities tells me that St. Paul was originally named (you guessed it!) Pig's Eye!

Many other yards are named after various RR officials.
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Posted by DPD1 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:27 PM
All the points along a line can have very interesting and historic names. It seems to be a fairly informal thing when they do the naming, except for the ones named after RR officers. The best part is they seem reluctant to change them, so the RoW becomes a kind of time capsule. There was a spot on the EJ&E in Chicago named Electric Jct. I've talked with crew guys that didn't even know what it meant. But there was actually an electric interurban line there in the old days. Some points were also named after old businesses that were served at a given location, which are long gone.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:32 AM
October 1986 Trains, page 31-
Railroaders almost never refer to Milwaukee's St. Paul Yard by its proper name. To them, it's simply Pig's Eye, the original name for that area of present-day St. Paul. According to legend, the first settler, a French Canadian bootlegger named Pigs Eye Parrant, settled by the lake adjacent to today"s railroad yard, and both the lake and the community which grew up there became known as Pig's Eye.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:58 AM
Clearing got its name based on its original purpose. When it was originally proposed by A. B. Stickney, he intended it to be a great clearinghouse for all railroad cars passing through Chicago. It didn't quite work out that way but the name stuck and also came to refer to the neighborhood north of the yard and west of Chicago Municipal Airport. The September and October 1966 issues of TRAINS have a good two-part article about the BRC which include a lot of interesting background about Clearing Yard and the BRC.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:02 PM
Lots of the names along the RR right-of-way were at one time small towns, albeit, the towns were most likely there because of the RR in the first place.

Lots of times they had a Brass Pounder and perhaps a small station, and now there's nothing more than a Station Name Sign.
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:18 PM
This is something I don't understand to much. How did Bailey Yard get it's name considering it's up and over (for me) in North Platte?? I would of just called it NP or something, however, now days people don't really refer to Bailey Yard as Bailey Yard, it's North Platte. Sometimes, the railroad likes to confuse people, instead of making things plain and simple. lol
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Posted by rockisland4309 on Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:23 PM
CSXrules4eva,

North Platte's Bailey was named for Edd H. Bailey. He was U.P.'s president during the 1960's I believe.

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Posted by louisnash on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:07 PM
Decoursey Yards-Latonia KY
Queensgate Yards-Cincinnati OH

More in the area. These are the ones I like.
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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:07 PM
The yard in Watertown, NY is called Massey - after the street/road that it's on. One of the yards at Fort Drum is sometimes referred to as the coal yard, even though the old coal dumping facility on that yard is long gone. On the other hand, the yard where the coal facility is now is called east, or Gas Alley...

Even some of the waypoints on various lines can be a source of wonderment. "Cona" and "Brad" are pretty obvious abreviations of "Lacona" (a town) and "Bradley" (a street). "Stan" is probably a shortening of "Stanwix," an early name for Rome, NY. It's located about where the old RW&O line headed south for Rome, vs the current line which goes to Syracuse. I still haven't figured out "Roots" or "Kane".

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:28 PM
CSX Selkirk yard was orinaginaly known as Perlman yard....after the railroad CEO of New York Central...Willard Yard was known as East Chicago OH but the town and that railroad were renamed after the B&O railroad exectutive
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:28 PM
Proviso on the C&NW got its name because it is located in Proviso Township. Argo on the IHB drew its name from Argo cornstarch, a product of Corn Products, who has a major plant adjacent to the IHB at that point. Calumet Yard, an N&W/NKP facility, is located at the edge of what is known as the Calumet region of Illinois and Indiana.
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Posted by railfan619 on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:31 PM
the name here in the milwaukee is called Mitchell yard.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:49 PM
What about CN's Mac Millan Yard in Brampton/ Toronto vicinity?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:11 PM
Here are a few yd names from KS: BNSF at Newton is named Sand Creek, the yd at Hutchinson is Way (named after a official), the former RI (now UP) Wichita yd is known as Cline (named after RI land agent who helped the rr purchase the site for the yd when it was buikt in 1911).
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Posted by SSW9389 on Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:08 PM
Gravity Yard in Pine Bluff, Arkansas is a hump yard. It uses gravity for switching the cars to their classification tracks!
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Posted by Bob-Fryml on Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:53 PM
NEFF YARD in KCMO was named after a Missouri Pacific Railroad president. But what about some other Kansas City yards like ARGENTINE (A.T.S.F.) and ARMOURDALE (C.R.I.& P.)? What are their origins?

The J.R. DAVIS YARD in Roseville, Calif. is named after the Southern Pacific's last president. GEMCO YARD, just north of Van Nuys, honors what may still be its biggest customer, General Motors. But what about some other Espee affiliated yards like TAYLOR in Los Angeles, J-YARD in East Los Angeles, ENGLEWOOD and STRANG in Houston, and ROPER (ex-D.& R.G.W.) in Salt Lake City? What are their origins?

Lastly (for now) who was the "Conway" behind CONWAY YARD (PRR) in Pittsburgh?

A crusty, old, yet brilliant General Superintendent told me one time, "Young man, trains standing still lose money while trains moving make money. Seeing a train stopped or freight cars rusting in a track make me very nervous." Given all of the poor velocity issues plaguing the industry today, I should think that no railroad executive would want to lend his moniker to that most conspicuous obstacle to railroad financial performance: the freight yard.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:19 PM
Selkirk yard in NY was originally Selkirk, then Pearlman and THEN back to Selkirk, following various corporate name changes.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:14 PM
Was Selkirk yard named after the Selkirk mountains?Did the Pearlman name change after PennCentral went down?

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Posted by fuzzybroken on Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:58 PM
CP here in Milwaukee has Lake (named after the town of Lake, now all absorbed by Milwaukee, Cudahy, and St. Francis), Wash 4 (named after Washington Street), Muskego Yard (named after a street that it displaces/used to run through it?), and Grand Avenue Junction (right under Wisconsin Avenue, formerly known as Grand Avenue, also the name of a mall farther east on Wis Ave.).

UP has Mitchell Yard and Butler Yard. Various Mitchells have been instrumental in Milwaukee's history, and I know a Mitchell was once president of the Milwaukee Road, although I'm not sure of C&NW. A Mitchell or two was a banker, so maybe they lent C&NW money? Butler is interesting since no part of it actually exists in Butler itself, but actually across the street in Milwaukee!

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Posted by ericsp on Friday, July 1, 2005 12:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bob-Fryml

The J.R. DAVIS YARD in Roseville, Calif. is named after the Southern Pacific's last president. GEMCO YARD, just north of Van Nuys, honors what may still be its biggest customer, General Motors. But what about some other Espee affiliated yards like TAYLOR in Los Angeles, J-YARD in East Los Angeles, ENGLEWOOD and STRANG in Houston, and ROPER (ex-D.& R.G.W.) in Salt Lake City? What are their origins?

It seems like I heard how Taylor got its name, however I do not remember. I would guess it is named after a company official or a distinguished employee. There is an "A Yard" on PHL. I also seem to recall hearing about other yards in the LA area that were just a letter followed by yard. I am guessing that they got tired of looking for names for yards in the LA area and just started using the alphabet. Who could forget Bull Ring Yard? If I remember correctly, it was so named because it resembled a bull ring. Isn't J Yard in south LA, near Watts?

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Posted by Rustyrex on Friday, July 1, 2005 1:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bob-Fryml

NEFF YARD in KCMO was named after a Missouri Pacific Railroad president. But what about some other Kansas City yards like ARGENTINE (A.T.S.F.) and ARMOURDALE (C.R.I.& P.)? What are their origins?


I too am curious about the various Kansas City Yards, as well as AVONDALE (NS), KNOCHE (KCS) and MURRAY (BN).
How about a couple St Louis ones as well, LESPERANCE (UP), LUTHER (NS) and BADEN (MKT). Very interesting topic! [:)]
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Posted by rockisland4309 on Friday, July 1, 2005 11:19 AM
Rock Island's Armourdale yard is part of the Armourdale district of Kansas City, KS. The same goes for Santa Fe's Argentine yard is located in Argentine district of Kansas City, KS.
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Posted by ChrisBARailfan on Friday, July 1, 2005 11:40 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Rustyrex

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bob-Fryml

NEFF YARD in KCMO was named after a Missouri Pacific Railroad president. But what about some other Kansas City yards like ARGENTINE (A.T.S.F.) and ARMOURDALE (C.R.I.& P.)? What are their origins?


I too am curious about the various Kansas City Yards, as well as AVONDALE (NS), KNOCHE (KCS) and MURRAY (BN).
How about a couple St Louis ones as well, LESPERANCE (UP), LUTHER (NS) and BADEN (MKT). Very interesting topic! [:)]


Correct, Argentine and Armourdale are named after neighborhoods in Kansas City Kansas, both Armourdale Argentine was settled by the Shawnee indian tribe in the 1870s and incorporated into Kansas City Kansas in the 1880s.

Norfolk Southerns Avondale yard is named for Avondale, MO as the yards sits between Avondale and North Kansas City, MO. Murray yard was named for the huge Murray Elevator company facility that is adjacent, it is currently an ADM processing facility and elevator. I am not sure, but I believe that Knoche yard is junction south of Kansas City where the KC Southern interchanged with other roads in the early 1900s.
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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 1, 2005 11:54 AM
Not a yard, but has anybody noticed that the locations on the Santa Fe across the Mojave desert are in alphabetical order?
Amboy
Bagdad
Cadiz
Danby
Essex
Fenner
Goffs
Homer
Ibis
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Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, July 1, 2005 12:16 PM
Bagdad?
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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 1, 2005 12:51 PM
Yup, we've got a Bagdad too!!!
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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, July 1, 2005 1:16 PM
Not far from Siberia (7 miles)[:D]

Chad.....The SP and later ATSP (A&P) mudchickens had a sense of humor when they started out there.

ATSF did the same thing on the Northern Transcon in Colorado between Syracuse, KS and La Junta, CO.....Able, Beta, .......(most of those stations are now retired and gone)

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Posted by chad thomas on Friday, July 1, 2005 1:26 PM
I wonder why they didn't go all the way to Z. That would have made more sence.
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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, July 1, 2005 2:26 PM
You expect geography or operating department upper-management to make sense?

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