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[gacuster]

Just wondering whatever happened to the CSX engineer responsible for the runaway train that had to be caught by another locomotive in Ohio awhile back.

[Anonymous]

He was fired.

LC

[Anonymous]

Fired? Hunh? What did he do? Forget to set the brake or something?

[mudchicken]

Speaking of "oops!": http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050614/NEWS01/506150312

[adrianspeeder]

He set the loco brake, but pulled it to notch 8 on accident before jumping out of the cab to do something.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

Well, ya don't see that eveyday. I find it funny they don't know where the railcar came from. :)

[locomutt]

Needless to say,that is a very interesting OOPS!
After all the investigating is done,I'm sure someone will be out of a job.
I sure hope all the victims are,or will be alright.

[mudchicken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nuclearwinter

Well, ya don't see that eveyday. I find it funny they don't know where the railcar came from. :)

Well it probably came from one of two directions![:D]

[coborn35]

I reember reading about the ohio incident in Readers Digest. Funny how you can "accidently" put a loco in run 8 instead of putting brakes on. They dont even look the same. ( now i know the newer ones might, but from what i understand, it was an older locomotive, like a GP38-2 or something)

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I reember reading about the ohio incident in Readers Digest. Funny how you can "accidently" put a loco in run 8 instead of putting brakes on. They dont even look the same. ( now i know the newer ones might, but from what i understand, it was an older locomotive, like a GP38-2 or something)

It was SD40-2 number CSXT 8888.
http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/072uppoy.asp
http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/076ddrhw.asp

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nuclearwinter

Well, ya don't see that eveyday. I find it funny they don't know where the railcar came from. :)

The article said neighter the police nor the fire department knew where the car came from. It did not say that the railroad did not know.

[mudchicken]

UPDATE: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050615/NEWS01/506150397/1056/news01

[tree68]

Two thoughts:

1. Wouldn't the car have set off the crossing signals? Perhaps it was running too fast for proper actuation?

2. I realize that the picture in the update article is telephoto, which accentuates the irregularities, but that track looks nasty.

[dekemd]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

Two thoughts:


2. I realize that the picture in the update article is telephoto, which accentuates the irregularities, but that track looks nasty.

It looks very nasty. Should that engine be leaning like that?

[mudchicken]

Class 1 track (10mph) and I've seen much worse run on as "FRA Excepted Track"....

Probably could use some resurfacing, but the ties are in what condition? RailAmerica will put money into it before the FRA makes it an issue...(witness Cleves, OH to Brookville, IN)

[BaltACD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I reember reading about the ohio incident in Readers Digest. Funny how you can "accidently" put a loco in run 8 instead of putting brakes on. They dont even look the same. ( now i know the newer ones might, but from what i understand, it was an older locomotive, like a GP38-2 or something)

Actually it can be surprisingly easy....think you have the engine set for Dynamic Braking and then advance the throttle to the 8th notch....thinking you are getting maximum Dynamic Braking....however, the sound of the engines reving in Run 8 should warn one that you are not in Dynamic Braking.....maybe the 'Engineer' was hearing impaired to the extent that the engines reving sounded like the Dynamic Brakes 'whining'....in any event....DUMB MOVE!

[tree68]

Wasn't that the one where the RR told the police they could shoot at the fuel shutoff switch (in hopes of shutting the unit down) and that was about the only red object on the side of the loco they didn't hit?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

Wasn't that the one where the RR told the police they could shoot at the fuel shutoff switch (in hopes of shutting the unit down) and that was about the only red object on the side of the loco they didn't hit?

Yup, that's the one...

LC

[gacuster]

Thanks for all the replies, I remember the news stories and read the Reader's Digest article but they never said what happened to the engineer. At least nobody was hurt.

[csxengineer98]

wouldnt suprise me one bit if he is back to work... you can do alot..(and i mean alot) wrong...and still be able to come back after to you take your licks.....
csx engineer

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

Two thoughts:

1. Wouldn't the car have set off the crossing signals? Perhaps it was running too fast for proper actuation?

2. I realize that the picture in the update article is telephoto, which accentuates the irregularities, but that track looks nasty.

The car was most likely travelling too fast for the signals to give proper warning.The traffic had no chance to react.
Did this car get loose while being switched,or was it already on a siding to be unloaded.That would make a difference in who was at fault.There is more on this on Trains newswire.

[CopCarSS]

MC,

Wasn't there a case of something similar to this a year or two ago on the line to Golden? Seems to me that it was a tank car that manageed to make it up around 80 mph going through Olde Towne Arvada (during the Harvest Festival or something if I remember right). I think the car(s) eventually derailed near Federal Blvd., didn't they?

[mudchicken]

That was two tank cars set loose by someone at Jolly Rancher (Ward Road) - Police are still looking for somebody they think did it.....There also is the BNSF incident 9 months before that before that with a boxcar from Robinson Brick in Castle Rock that got turned loose by a now ex-brakeman/conductor (bled the air off then uncoupled from the car w/o somebody riding the handbrake), car rolled northward killing a welder at Sedalia - the car came to a stop in downtown Denver near 20th Street.

[zardoz]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I reember reading about the ohio incident in Readers Digest. Funny how you can "accidently" put a loco in run 8 instead of putting brakes on. They dont even look the same. ( now i know the newer ones might, but from what i understand, it was an older locomotive, like a GP38-2 or something)

It was SD40-2 number CSXT 8888.
http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/072uppoy.asp
http://www.trains.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/076ddrhw.asp

So if it actually was a SD40-2, then how could that happen? Every SD40-2 I ever operated revved up and loaded fairly quickly. Even with the independent set, the power of the locomotive is easily enough to quickly overcome the braking effort. So if he "accidently"set the throttle to "run8", the locomotive would already moving before the engineer could walk around the control stand and climb down the stairs; and if he exited long hood end, he would have heard the motor speeding up. Besides, are (or should be) trianed to drop the excitation circuit out, as well as removing the reverser, before exiting (to prevent this exact scenario).

Sorry, no excuses for something THAT [censored].