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Shay drag racing
Posted by nanaimo73 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:08 AM
During June of 1999 Railfair was held at Sacramento. This was when UP 844 had her boiler tube failure.This event also introduced a new sport to the world, Shay drag racing.This event was the idea of Jim Wrinn and Martin Hansen.The eastern entrant was Graham County Shay 1925 which had been recently restored at Historic Spencer Shops in NC.
www.ci.salisbury.nc.us/nctrans/Rolling_stock/Steam/1925/1925info.htm

The western entrant was Mount Emily Shay No1.

www.goldenrailvideo.com/powertour.htm

The races were over 75 yards from a standing start.On thursday the #1925 had times of 11.9 and 14.57 seconds, while #1 had times of 16.66 and 16.41 seconds. On friday the times were 13.38 vs. 15.61 giving shay 1925 a clean sweep.
Have there been any more of these races since ?
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Posted by CopCarSS on Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:28 AM
Shay Drag Racing? Isn't that sort of like holding Chihuahua dog weightlifting challenges? Now a Shay tug of war I could see...but drag racing?

He he he...

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:45 AM
We don't want to try anything too spectacular, which would only scare the insurance companies. I wish I had seen this event.
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Posted by DPD1 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:49 AM
Sounds like a Jesse James/Monster Garage event. :-)

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Posted by jeaton on Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:09 PM
Ever see a Shay do a wheely off the start line?

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Posted by CopCarSS on Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Ever see a Shay do a wheely off the start line?

Jay


That's only when they have slicks on, and do a good buronout first, though, right? [:p]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:40 PM
What's next? Southern Dixie Trailer pulls?
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Posted by lonewoof on Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:41 PM
I picked up a tape, "Steep Grades and Fast Shays", at a train show. It's all about GC and #1925. It has video of the drags...

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:29 PM
Isn't fast Shay kind of an oxymoron?

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Posted by locomutt on Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:49 PM
What's their best times on a strip ?!
Maybe 10 m.p.h. ?

And Larry,I believe you are very correct.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:29 PM
I have never seen Shay drag races but I did see diesel truck drags.This was tractors only,no trailers! A few of the trucks bettered 60 MPH[8D]!
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Posted by CopCarSS on Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

I have never seen Shay drag races but I did see diesel truck drags.This was tractors only,no trailers! A few of the trucks bettered 60 MPH[8D]!


Every year, Bandimere Speedway holds a truckfest that features everything from pick-ups to large semi rigs. One of the truckers I know has a custom Peterbilt, with a heavily modified Cat in it. He ran an 18 sec. pass in it. And this is around 6000 feet above sea level. There's a lot of stock pick-ups that can't do that!

Still, the concept of a Shay Drag Race still seems odd to me. Tractor Pull, Tug of War, Hill Climbing contest, yes. Drag Races? Still seems odd to me.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CopCarSS

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

I have never seen Shay drag races but I did see diesel truck drags.This was tractors only,no trailers! A few of the trucks bettered 60 MPH[8D]!


Every year, Bandimere Speedway holds a truckfest that features everything from pick-ups to large semi rigs. One of the truckers I know has a custom Peterbilt, with a heavily modified Cat in it. He ran an 18 sec. pass in it. And this is around 6000 feet above sea level. There's a lot of stock pick-ups that can't do that!

Still, the concept of a Shay Drag Race still seems odd to me. Tractor Pull, Tug of War, Hill Climbing contest, yes. Drag Races? Still seems odd to me.


And I thought Cement truck pulls were a little strange. I guess there's a sport for everything.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:52 PM
Heck back in mid 90's had a 93 Freightliner COE with the 460 detroit on a rockwell 9 bobtail, beat a Mustang GT with his 305 v8 off a light once.

What I really like to see with Shays is tie em to something very heavy. See how far they can pull it. Uphill.

Insurance types need to stay away, if you gonna shay, then shay it right he he.
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, May 20, 2005 1:28 AM
They got to18 mph in 75 yards. That does not sound to bad. I would like to know if our Editor was on board as it was his idea.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 20, 2005 1:36 AM
What happens if you tossed the steam, water and replaced the shay cylinder with a AC traction motor; threw a desiel generator into the fuel bunker and hooked it up?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 20, 2005 9:31 AM
There is nothing new under the sun. Way back in the early 70's, the late Joe Luber[a.k.a. Ralphie the Rhino] had a bunch of tee shirts printed up for his Pro Custom Hobbies. The bright red tees were lettered on the front, "The Good Guys Wear White"; the back plugged his P.C.H. with the slogan, "Member of the Shay Racing Team." I still have one.

BTW, amongst the staff at old Pro Custom Hobbies was Lee Riley, who went on to bigger things at Bachmann, and Nolan Null who pretty much did the same thing for Life Like.
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Posted by SALfan on Friday, May 20, 2005 10:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

The races were over 75 yards from a standing start.On thursday the #1925 had times of 11.9 and 14.57 seconds, while #1 had times of 16.66 and 16.41 seconds. On friday the times were 13.38 vs. 15.61 giving shay 1925 a clean sweep.
Have there been any more of these races since ?


Guess "Big Daddy" Don Garlits (spelling?) and "The Snake" Prudhomme have nothing to worry about.

As to offbeat races, I've watched my brother race farm tractors. One of the neighborhood guys had a high clearance (larger-diameter wheels and tires) Massey-Ferguson that was (comparatively) wickedly fast.
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Posted by Jim Wrinn on Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:52 PM
Originally posted by nanaimo73

They got to18 mph in 75 yards. That does not sound to bad. I would like to know if our Editor was on board as it was his idea.

But of course!

The idea came from and old Jeff Terry Studio ad that used to run in Trains back in the early 1970s. It was for a t-shirt that said: Shay Racing Team.

When Cathy Taylor at the California State Railroad Museum told me that Oregon's Mount Emily No. 1 would be joining the 1925 at Railfair '99, Martin and I got to talking and dreamed up the race as a way to help break our two small engines out of the pack. And it did.. we had about 3,000 people at each Shay race.

As for riding, I rode with Engineer Paul Hess and fireman David Seniw on one of the test runs for the crowd. I'd no sooner than set my Nikon down in the cab than David came over to me and advised: You might want to hold it; when we go, things in this cab start moving. He was right. She's got acceleration!

As for additional racing, there's been no other opportunity that I'm aware of.

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Posted by jeaton on Monday, May 23, 2005 7:30 AM
I one of the many TV specials currently on the topic of the Star Wars movies, George Lucas explained that the inclusion of some many very fast vehicles in the movies was to cater to the public's fascination with speed. Guess that goes for Shay fans, too.

For the sake of historical preservation, it is probably just as well that more races are not planned. Imagine the modified stock division.[:D][:D][:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 23, 2005 7:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JOdom

QUOTE: Originally posted by nanaimo73

The races were over 75 yards from a standing start.On thursday the #1925 had times of 11.9 and 14.57 seconds, while #1 had times of 16.66 and 16.41 seconds. On friday the times were 13.38 vs. 15.61 giving shay 1925 a clean sweep.
Have there been any more of these races since ?


Guess "Big Daddy" Don Garlits (spelling?) and "The Snake" Prudhomme have nothing to worry about.

As to offbeat races, I've watched my brother race farm tractors. One of the neighborhood guys had a high clearance (larger-diameter wheels and tires) Massey-Ferguson that was (comparatively) wickedly fast.


There's also the Swamp Buggey races down in "Big Daddy's" part of Florida. I'd think that Shays did occasionally run over flooded track.
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Posted by route_rock on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:00 AM
Shay drag racing? I do remember seeing it in a magazine somewhere. Better yet lets get Climax and Heisler in there. (well not Heisler dont want to make the Shay fans cry when I scream past em in my Heisler Funny Locomotive *see what you started now) Kind of a Ford Chevy Dodge thing. I want to know when one of you guys will suggest N.O.S. for em

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