EMD discontinuance of support for 6-567 engines.

[M636C]

I recall seeing this mentioned on one of the threads, but no date was given. Did this mean that there would be no support for any six cylinder engines, such as 6-645s either?

There were 55 G-6Bs with 567C engines and 25 with 645E engines built in Australia (they could hardly call them G-16Bs) and maybe half of them still exist.

It would be interesting to know if anyone has the details of when this decision was made and what engine models it covered!

Peter

[Anonymous]

Because of the commonality of parts for all same series engines, wouldn't discontinuing support for six cylinder engines be from discontinuing support for all 567's?

[daveklepper]

Now there will be a market for stuff that would otherwise just go to scrap.

I can see tourist and short line railroad peopole visiting Larry's Truck and Electric for 6-567 parts they cannot get from EMD!

[M636C]

I may have misread the post and can't recall its location. It referred to six cylinder unique components, which would be crankcases, crankshafts and possibly camshafts. Blowers, power assemblies and most other parts are interchangeable, of course.

Peter

[edbenton]

But they wil still be able to get them GE has EMD parts aviable through them.

[CShaveRR]

Hmmm...just how many SW1s or SW600s do you suppose are left out there?

[Randy Stahl]

Emd discontinued support for the 567 some time ago. It was possible for you to use 645 power assembly's in your 567 C but you still needed to use the B type heads. B heads are getting harder to find since EMD stopped making them more than 10 years ago . On the A or B engines you needed 567 power assembly's. EMD stopped production of those parts long ago. I don't understand why the article referred only to the SW-1, it is a fact that EMD stopped supporting the 567 altogether.
Randy

[Dutchrailnut]

Just because EMD stopped suport and parts does not mean they did not provide for alternative part source, Im sure a outside vendor will take up the slack.
you can still get parts for ALCO, Budd etc.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Since I'm the guilty party who made the post in question, I'll answer for it. I found this information in X2200 South sometime in the early 1980's and it referred to the discontinuance of parts unique to the 6-567, such as crankshafts, camshafts, etc. Viewing this item in retrospect, it is possible that this was an early step in discontinuing parts support for the 567 engine.

At any rate, I do remember a lot of SW1's being unloaded by the Class 1's at that time.

[M636C]

Thanks for the answers!

My concern is that while SW-1s were built between 1939 and 1953 (Marre says 567 and 567A engines - surely by 1953 they were 567B engines) the Australian G-6Bs were built in the mid 1960s and a lot of them are still around. The last 25 had 645E engines, although their survival rate is no better.

There were, as far as I know, no 6-645E locomotive engines other than those 25 units, but there may have been other industrial or off road engines (and a few 567 engined GM-6s in Lebanon that mightn't have lasted through the civil war!)

The two switchers in Darwin (all of them) are G-6Bs with 567C engines, for example.

I haven't seen internal drawings and can't say if there is room to fit a V-8 in there, but the design was based on the GL-8, and that might be an option if six cylinder unique parts dry up.

Peter

[kevarc]

There are many vendors for parts. We have FM OP engines and do not have problems getting parts. There are those that will make parts and others that buy old engines and salvage the parts. They rebuild them.