May, 10th 1905

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

I go the the Milwaukee Road's corporate office and say . . .

"I know it may seem odd that I know this, as you were not planning on releasing your plans to build your pacific extension until 1906, but you should really reevaluate your plans."

Then I get the heck out of Dodge and move to Brazil so as to avoid the oncoming draft of 1916. I am not a draft dodger, but I already know that we win, so what is the use . . .

Gabe

Good idea regarding the pre-emptive advice to the Milwaukee Road officers! The first thing you tell them is that scoudrel James J Hill is likely going to take over the North Bank of the Columbia with his Spokane, Portland & Seattle line, so you better act fast if you want a water level grade to the west side of the Cascades. Secondly, you tell them to vote down Rockefeller and accept a joint PCE with the Chicago & Northwestern to share the financial burden. Lastly, you advise them that if they want the absolute best line from Chicago to Puget Sound, lower operating costs trump expensive engineering anytime - keep your mountain divisions short and sweet. Gentle grades and minimized curvature

By the way, you're more likely to die from the flu than you are dying in combat, so you're probably better off shipping off to France and getting together with some frisky French girls and going through a few bottles of French wine, than you are going to the jungles of the Amazon. Just stay out of the trenches and keep your feet dry.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Be quick about it...On june 1st, the Brazillian Navy's new fangled submarines

Are those the ones with the screen doors?[:D]

[mudchicken]

espee: Surveyors from the yellow peril were already done in 1905 (they went thru Vegas in 1903, the construction crews were a little tardy.

If I were a 1905 railroad mudchicken in Colorado

If I were a Santa Fe Mudchicken, I'd be in the Arkansas Valley between Holly and Rock y Ford laying out branch lines to gather sugar beets north of the river for J. A. Noble.

If I were Colorado & Southern, I would be laying out connecting tracks for the wholy owned Denver & Interurban RR around Broomfield for J. R. Hess.

If I were Denver, Laramie and Western, I'd be starving somewhere between Utah Junction and Greeley. (Copcars' Adams County is all of 3 years old, broken out of Arapahoe County along with the City and County of Denver which is still smaller than Pueblo)

If I were Denver, Northwestern and Pacific, I'd be just finishing the line over Rollins Pass (Moffat Tunnel is 18-23 years away) and heading west with Horace Sumner to find out how to go Winter Park to the coal fields of Routt County

If I'm working for Union Pacific, I'm working on the new Northern District main track going from Denver through La Salle, Firestone, Frederick to the new coal mines and beet farms.

If I'm working for CB&Q, I'm relocating our Burlington, Missouri & Colorado main track to get it out the soon to be Barr Lake.

If I'm working for Colorado & Eastern, my struggling narrow gauge railroad just got through Berlin and is on its way to the Hanover Mine (coal)/ Scranton near a place to be called DIA a hundred years later.

If I'm Rock Island, I just laid out the McFerran Mine near Colorado Springs/Falcon and there are crews looking to lay out a line west from Liberal to Trinidad and up the Puratoire River Valley into the San Luis Valley,

If I'm Denver & Rio Grande working under J. A. McMurtrie and Bill deReymer , I'm busy laying out branches for CF&I (C&W Southern Division), a sugar company (the future San Luis Central) or following behind General Palmer and going off to Mexico.

If it's 1905 and I'm a surveyor in Colorado, I've got work.

[vsmith]

Senior Dan

My new Zeppelins just happen to use this new gas found here in the US called helium, so dont get any ideas about lighted objects or anything, fly at 10,000 feet and there is no real threat from those barely flyable boxkites them Wright Bro's are puttering around in....money is no object for my aerial world conquest...you see my sports history book 2005 edition, lets me know who is going to win every baseball, football game and horse race... Hehehe so my funding source is a little more reliable than your banana crop!!!![:p]

[route_rock]

Well I would be avoiding Zepplins and the like for sure! Would be on (hopefully) a regular job on the Rock Island. lets see 33 now baring getting killed by boiler explosion horrible accidents disease etc etc I would have 18 or so years on the line ( at a time when firemen hired out wayyyyyyyyy young of course child labor laws what are those?) so 5 or so years of firing wham engine service, of course baring all that I said before I would be in bed already ( old fashioned them new fangled oilless lights dang nabit) and the windows would be open so we could get a breeze in the hot as hell house, probably have put another block of ice in the ice box, made sure ma had put the cook fire in the stove to a nice bank ( all those years firing) and be all settled in bed after saying good night to ma and the 10 youngins ( kids are good for something like doing house hold chores and sending them to family members farms to help out) Arguing with the oldest boy cause he wants to join some revolution in Brazil you know all the stuff I am not doing now! Great execise man give me today I wouldnt mind the time machine as long as I had all my shots!

[Clutch Cargo]

I am going to pick up my fiance when she gets off work at the Harvey House.

She is teaching me how to read.

Kurt

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Generalissimo Harmon, the Zeppelins are getting closer.....

Bring zem on Herr Smith...I have special surprise waiting for you.....

[vsmith]

Generalissimo Harmon, the Zeppelins are getting closer.....

[gabe]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Bye Bye Boys..Have fun storming the castle!

Perfect threads are in a shortage these days, it would be a pitty to ruin this thread of yours.

[dharmon]

Bye Bye Boys..Have fun storming the castle!

[ajmiller]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon
But what you do not know is that I too am really right handed!

Inconceivable!

[espeefoamer]

I understand the Los Angeles & Salt Lake RR is planning to build a railroad from Salt Lake City,UT to Los Angeles,CA.I plan to buy some land in Nevada,near what the surveyers are calling Waterhole 25.

[espeefoamer]

In 1905,it is too early to see cab forwards or streamlined Daylights.My favorite loco( GS 4 4449 )will not be built for another 36 years.What to do.I will go to Ogden and buy a ticket to San Francisco.I will ride over the original line through Promontory,as the Lucin cutoff won't be built until 1908.I will marvel at the steady stream of freights running over Donner with the small locos in use at that time,requiring numerous helpers.Maybe as many as 4 or 5 engines per train.I will enjoy crossing Carqinez straits on the carferry,then the ride into Oakland Mole,finishing the trip with a ferry crossing of the bay ending at the San Francisco Ferry terminal[:)].

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Be quick about it...On june 1st, the Brazillian Navy's new fangled submarines will be blockading the the US East Coast as well as the approaches to England until all imperialists leave South America.

Dan I hate to tell you this, but those newfangled Brazillian submarines are also made of rubber, and they float even when they pull the plugs out and would be as good a target as a Rubber Ducky in a bathtub...now as for me, with my armada of Newfangled Zepplins (thanks to an exclusive deal with the Count (after a few months playing the ponies with my sports records history book) will be paying a visit from 10,000 feet over your antiquated tin navy and dropping a few souveneers for you...Aaargh! (in my best Robert Newton voice) [4:-)][oX)][;)]

But what you do not know is that I too am really right handed!

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Be quick about it...On june 1st, the Brazillian Navy's new fangled submarines will be blockading the the US East Coast as well as the approaches to England until all imperialists leave South America.

Dan I hate to tell you this, but those newfangled Brazillian submarines are also made of rubber, and they float even when they pull the plugs out and would be as good a target as a Rubber Ducky in a bathtub...now as for me, with my armada of Newfangled Zepplins (thanks to an exclusive deal with the Count (after a few months playing the ponies with my sports records history book) will be paying a visit from 10,000 feet over your antiquated tin navy and dropping a few souveneers for you...Aaargh! (in my best Robert Newton voice) [4:-)][oX)][;)]

[railroad65]

You had real money in your pocket, if you were lucky. GOLD & SILVER COINS not this worthless stuff we have now, backed by nothing.

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: Originally posted by techguy57

Dan,
Need a publicist?(Not what I normally do but that's pretty much all I've been doing today. Besides it's 1905 right?) I could be in charge of helping with your party platform, arrange photo ops etc. What do you think?

Mike, er I mean, Miguel.

[:D]

Chances are that in 1905 that photo op will be off the back of a private observation car. Makes me want to run for something!

Chris
Denver, CO

[techguy57]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish


Well, if you are going to do that, Mr. Harmon, please look up Henry Ford, try to persuade him that the internal combustion thing will never work and suggest he look into the world wide telegraphic web.

With my trusty lawyer at my side, Brazil shall rise as a super power and we will rule the world........Pax Brasilia!!!!

MOOHAHAHAHAH MOOHAHAHAHAHAH

Work with me here people

Dan,
Need a publicist?(Not what I normally do but that's pretty much all I've been doing today. Besides it's 1905 right?) I could be in charge of helping with your party platform, arrange photo ops etc. What do you think?

Mike, er I mean, Miguel.

[:D]

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish

My advice, CopCar, is to go ahead and farm in Adams County. It's great land, I'm betting the climate will be relatively benign for several years to come, and you will enjoy living on the Front Range before it gets discovered in a big way. Farming should prove fairly lucrative, especially if a large European war breaks out in about a decade or so.
I' m betting a national park will get established up around Estes Park, so you may want to look into putting a little land aside up there.

I may just have to stockpile some land. Perhaps some water rights would be a good investment, too? [8D]

[dharmon]

Be quick about it...On june 1st, the Brazillian Navy's new fangled submarines will be blockading the the US East Coast as well as the approaches to England until all imperialists leave South America.

[passengerfan]

This afternoon I shall board the Great Norhern Flyer at the soon to be replaced waterfront station in Seattle. In 70 hours i shall arrive in the windy city Chicago where I will change trains and board the Pennsylvania Flyer for New York just in time for my sailing on the Cunard Lines Campania to Southhampton. A ten day voyage on the first trans-atlantic liner to abandon sails altogether and rely strictly on steam for the long voyage.This will be my first time to travel so extensively. It took me four hours on the horse drawn streetcar to arrive at the Station in Seattle. The crossing of the Cascades will take place in darkness and consume most of the night. By the time I awake tomorrow I shall be fast approaI still can't approaching Spokane.
It seems unbeleiveable that I can leave Seattle one day and fifteen days later be in London. What marvel's the trains and mighty ship that will whisk me so far in such a short period of time. Why only just a few years ago I can't imagine making such a trip the sailing ships were at the mercy of the winds so one never knew when he would get to England and today the mighty steam pwered ship will have me their in ten days from the time I leave New York. Well must finish getting ready for the trip Ta Ta for now.

[greyhounds]

Seriously,

A lot of us would be dead.

Think of a world with no real medicins, no antiobiotics, no educated doctors. Medical education was a joke. There were no standards. Some "medical" schools were for less than a year. They could cut off your leg, but if it became infected, which was likely, you died.

I recently read a story in the Wall Street Journal about a farmer from near Lanark, Illinois. (and we're all basically farmers if this is 1905) He was hauling a propane tank behind his tractor when the hitch failed. The tank ruptured and he was burned horribly. In 1905 he would have been a dead man. Shoot, in 1995 he would have been a dead man.

But they airlifted him to the University of Wisconsin where doctors put him into an induced comma for seven months. They gave him an artificial, patented new skin and then brought him out of the comma. Today, he's back farming. and has a grandchild. He did loose a thumb. But ***, we've come a long *** way in 100 years.

They didn't have telephones, we have cell phones. I can fly to Florida in less than two hours for less than a day's pay. And then retreat into air conditioning. The future is amazing.

And it's only gonna' get better.

Reading history is one of my hobbies. I've recently come to the conclusion that's it's amazing that anyone survived. Sure was tough way back then 100 years ago.

My father was born on May 7, 1907 - he lived most of his life without electricity, think of that. The electricty came to his farm in 1947. 40 Years after his birth. He died in 1977. 30 years after he got an electric light to read by.

He never did get on an aircraft.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ajmiller

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish


Well, if you are going to do that, Mr. Harmon, please look up Henry Ford, try to persuade him that the internal combustion thing will never work and suggest he look into the world wide telegraphic web.

With my trusty lawyer at my side, Brazil shall rise as a super power and we will rule the world........Pax Brasilia!!!!

MOOHAHAHAHAH MOOHAHAHAHAHAH

Work with me here people

You know what they say: It's all fun and games until your underling colonels stage a bloody coup! And if you manage to survive, you'll have to flee the country disguised as a nun. If you're smart you'll remember to raid the treasury before you go.

Well...Shah...as the used to say in Iran...before the overthrow that is....

[ajmiller]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish


Well, if you are going to do that, Mr. Harmon, please look up Henry Ford, try to persuade him that the internal combustion thing will never work and suggest he look into the world wide telegraphic web.

With my trusty lawyer at my side, Brazil shall rise as a super power and we will rule the world........Pax Brasilia!!!!

MOOHAHAHAHAH MOOHAHAHAHAHAH

Work with me here people

You know what they say: It's all fun and games until your underling colonels stage a bloody coup! And if you manage to survive, you'll have to flee the country disguised as a nun. If you're smart you'll remember to raid the treasury before you go.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish


Well, if you are going to do that, Mr. Harmon, please look up Henry Ford, try to persuade him that the internal combustion thing will never work and suggest he look into the world wide telegraphic web.

With my trusty lawyer at my side, Brazil shall rise as a super power and we will rule the world........Pax Brasilia!!!!

MOOHAHAHAHAH MOOHAHAHAHAHAH

Work with me here people

*School Teacher*: Young man,that is unacceptable. I may have to get the paddle out[}:)]

[gabe]

(In a muffled sound)

Mmssh Sssffeef ssueee (as my mouth bites my fingers to keep from typing the other three puns I was thinking of. It is so much easier to bit your tongue.

Gabe

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

Your interest in the "support" that this industry gave the Depression economy is commendable.

Gabe

Especially when one considers how it brought money into circulation, making a bit easier for those "strapped" for cash...grooooooooooaaaaaaaaannnnnnn...

[gabe]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

You would make more money if you put all of your money in braziers. They made a killing in the depression.

Gabe

UUrrrraaagghhh <Tim Allen voice> as Dan awakens from workday coma....

...now we're talking!!!!!

Your interest in the "support" that this industry gave the Depression economy is commendable.

Gabe

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

You would make more money if you put all of your money in braziers. They made a killing in the depression.

Gabe

UUrrrraaagghhh <Tim Allen voice> as Dan awakens from workday coma....

...now we're talking!!!!!