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Big Derailment on the UPRR.

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Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:31 AM
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I got it now. Thanks

Jay

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:53 AM
Wow. The UP crews are realy working their A$$ off trying to restore that line as soon as Possible,Amaizing!
Very Good job to the People of the Union Pacific Railroad.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:03 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

On the closeup of the track over the bridge prior to the wreck. Sure looks like a section is missing.

Jay

A lot of these bridges on the ex-CNW with the ISG are set up for current of traffic running. The ISG come to a point only on one end, instead of both. This area now has CTC, but the ISG protection is still for former directional, current of traffic operation.
Last night returning from Fremont, I tried to note what bridges has ISG. I noticed some similar bridges that do not have any ISG. It seems sometimesthat it is not replaced when a bridge is redecked. My next trip west I"ll try to remember to check a bridge I know was redecked to see if they installed an ISG. (Now I'll probably go east for a month.)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:55 AM
Has anyone seen the old Bridge at Arlington,Neb? What's the Year on that Bridge?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:28 AM
Bill, Viewed the entire gallery and wow! [bow][bow][bow] I second Jays nomination for your position. You must live fairly close to site. I live in Erie. Any time you want to "run" email me. Am a s*** photographer but can drive like h*** and run interference while you click. weeberbp@yahoo.com Great job! Willy
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Posted by jeaton on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:34 AM
Jeff

Interesting. Perhaps that situation will change.

Jay

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Posted by Chris30 on Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:56 PM
QUOTE: mudchicken
ISG = Inside Steel Guardrail


I ran accross the website listed below and some of the pictures might help with resolving the issue about the ISG. If you scroll down, there are several pictures of bridges that are very similar to the bridge in Galt that collapsed due to derailment. The track detail in many of the pictures is excellent and you will notice that there is no ISG on these short bridges. Some of the pictures have captions and others do not. It looks most, if not all, of the pictures were taken along the UP Milwaukee Line (ex-CNW New Line).

[code]www.railwatch.com/unionpacific/[/code]

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:16 PM
I finally got beyond the first picture of your amazing collection. You're lucky to have gotten that close--I was in Galt today, but didn't try to go in beyond the barricades.

One comment for a couple of your pictures--you mentioned the head-end of the derailed train sitting there. I suspect not, on two counts. First of all, those are ballast hoppers and flat cars with panel track--commodities highly unlikely to have been on a train destined for the CSX at Selkirk! Second, the ex-CNW SD40-2s shown are unlikely power for a train other than one staying on ex-CNW territory (they have the necessary equipment for CNW cab signals and ATC, but not for UP's stuff). And UP wouldn't entrust a "Q" train to two small units like these. I think they got the ballast and panel track from Proviso in pretty short order after the wreck, and clearing the track of the head end of QNPSKP would have been a high priority, to get the repair materials as close to the site as possible.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, May 15, 2005 8:22 PM
Eric, I'll concur with you on that one wrecked car being an HCGX car filled with salt. The manganese would have been in a covered hopper.

As for the other car (box car or reefer?), it's a reefer (RBL), but not a mechanical reefer, so the commodity is probably canned tomato paste. Looks like it was one of a couple of UP RBLs that were involved.

Lynn at the shop in Rochelle says she heard that a broken knuckle on one of the Center-beam flat cars triggered this whole thing.

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, May 16, 2005 12:11 AM
http://www.uprr.com/customers/service/galtderailment.shtml

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Posted by rbomier on Monday, May 16, 2005 4:10 PM
I see that replacement bridges are in place per the newswire. What type did they use to have them in place so quickly?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 16, 2005 4:58 PM
Wow they didn't waist no time at all repairing the line.
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Posted by Chris30 on Monday, May 16, 2005 9:53 PM
Sixty trains a day - main line of America.... gota keep the trains rollin, cause the power plants in Waukegan & Sheybogan need the coal, the fruits gotta get to New York, the autos keep movin west to Milipilatas & Seattle, the orange Schnider & gray UPS trailers zip back and forth from Canal St. to Lathrop, K-line from LA, the boxcars, the stacks, the grain cars & everything else that I forgot. It all has to keep movin. That's why they built the bridge so fast! [;)][;)]

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