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Originally posted by ericsp Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, April 29, 2005 10:17 AM Excess high cubes are usually between 15 to 16 feet high. I believe it's the same for the 86 foot autoboxes. The automax cars I believe is closer to 20 feet which is about the same height as double stacked well car. I believe that BNSF bought some from Greenbrier as well. Andrew Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Friday, April 29, 2005 10:55 PM Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Friday, April 29, 2005 11:40 PM If they had designed the portals of tunnels properly, the tops of those excess height boxes would just get peeled back like the top of a sardine can and the train could continue on its way. "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:23 AM Yes I meant the Automex cars. The UPRR also has them painted totally in armour yellow. I wonder what will be done with them as the purchase of SUVs continues to decline. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by Junctionfan Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:23 AM The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:48 AM I think your question has already been answered. Normal hi-cube box cars are around 17 feet high. Most auto-rack cars are about 19 feet high. Double-stack cars load to 19'6". TTQX flats, as well as Auto-MAX cars and UP's single-unit Q2 racks (UP does not own or lease any Auto-MAX cars), are 20'2" high. NS has a new hi-cube box car (only one built so far) that is just over 19'1" tall. The requirement for excess-height areas to be painted may no longer exist, but many, if not most, of the new cars I've seen still have these areas painted in a contrasting color. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:53 AM Thanks so actually then what the starter of thread referred to as excess height was not excess height compared to Automex & even regular A/rackers & 2 hi D/stckers. That is what I am trying to get to. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:54 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp What do autocarriers of double stack cars have to do with this? Also, why do you say "supposed"? Two of the five cars have the warnings and white on the ends. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:11 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] That happened to me in a game and I saw something like that in person. In St.Catharines, CN used to run very long intermodal trains but usually running them on a certain track ( north I believe). For whatever reason, they were routed on a different track and had double stacked domestic containers in the first 20 or so cars. Well, the Merriton bridge over the tracks wasn't high enough so train 154 ended up doing a "shave in a haircut.....to bits" all over the mainline forcing them to go into emergency and Niagara Regional Police had to close the bridge and make sure it was structurally safe for cars to travel on (Merriton Road is a very busy street-didn't help traffic in St.Catharines). Some of those containers when stacked, were not an issue. I don't know what height they were. They were of course the 40 footers. Andrew Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:02 PM Well years ago the rule was ONLY 1X 8'6" + 1X 9'6". per well. Now a days I have seen 2X 9"6" when I have been out railfanning so I have to guess on certain routes in the USA they can accomdate that height. Shucks Automex cars are over 20' so for sure their has to be routes where 2X9'6" are acceptable. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) 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Originally posted by Junctionfan Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:23 AM The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:48 AM I think your question has already been answered. Normal hi-cube box cars are around 17 feet high. Most auto-rack cars are about 19 feet high. Double-stack cars load to 19'6". TTQX flats, as well as Auto-MAX cars and UP's single-unit Q2 racks (UP does not own or lease any Auto-MAX cars), are 20'2" high. NS has a new hi-cube box car (only one built so far) that is just over 19'1" tall. The requirement for excess-height areas to be painted may no longer exist, but many, if not most, of the new cars I've seen still have these areas painted in a contrasting color. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:53 AM Thanks so actually then what the starter of thread referred to as excess height was not excess height compared to Automex & even regular A/rackers & 2 hi D/stckers. That is what I am trying to get to. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:54 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp What do autocarriers of double stack cars have to do with this? Also, why do you say "supposed"? Two of the five cars have the warnings and white on the ends. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:11 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] That happened to me in a game and I saw something like that in person. In St.Catharines, CN used to run very long intermodal trains but usually running them on a certain track ( north I believe). For whatever reason, they were routed on a different track and had double stacked domestic containers in the first 20 or so cars. Well, the Merriton bridge over the tracks wasn't high enough so train 154 ended up doing a "shave in a haircut.....to bits" all over the mainline forcing them to go into emergency and Niagara Regional Police had to close the bridge and make sure it was structurally safe for cars to travel on (Merriton Road is a very busy street-didn't help traffic in St.Catharines). Some of those containers when stacked, were not an issue. I don't know what height they were. They were of course the 40 footers. Andrew Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:02 PM Well years ago the rule was ONLY 1X 8'6" + 1X 9'6". per well. Now a days I have seen 2X 9"6" when I have been out railfanning so I have to guess on certain routes in the USA they can accomdate that height. Shucks Automex cars are over 20' so for sure their has to be routes where 2X9'6" are acceptable. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by ericsp Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:48 AM I think your question has already been answered. Normal hi-cube box cars are around 17 feet high. Most auto-rack cars are about 19 feet high. Double-stack cars load to 19'6". TTQX flats, as well as Auto-MAX cars and UP's single-unit Q2 racks (UP does not own or lease any Auto-MAX cars), are 20'2" high. NS has a new hi-cube box car (only one built so far) that is just over 19'1" tall. The requirement for excess-height areas to be painted may no longer exist, but many, if not most, of the new cars I've seen still have these areas painted in a contrasting color. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:53 AM Thanks so actually then what the starter of thread referred to as excess height was not excess height compared to Automex & even regular A/rackers & 2 hi D/stckers. That is what I am trying to get to. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:54 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp What do autocarriers of double stack cars have to do with this? Also, why do you say "supposed"? Two of the five cars have the warnings and white on the ends. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:11 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] That happened to me in a game and I saw something like that in person. In St.Catharines, CN used to run very long intermodal trains but usually running them on a certain track ( north I believe). For whatever reason, they were routed on a different track and had double stacked domestic containers in the first 20 or so cars. Well, the Merriton bridge over the tracks wasn't high enough so train 154 ended up doing a "shave in a haircut.....to bits" all over the mainline forcing them to go into emergency and Niagara Regional Police had to close the bridge and make sure it was structurally safe for cars to travel on (Merriton Road is a very busy street-didn't help traffic in St.Catharines). Some of those containers when stacked, were not an issue. I don't know what height they were. They were of course the 40 footers. Andrew Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:02 PM Well years ago the rule was ONLY 1X 8'6" + 1X 9'6". per well. Now a days I have seen 2X 9"6" when I have been out railfanning so I have to guess on certain routes in the USA they can accomdate that height. Shucks Automex cars are over 20' so for sure their has to be routes where 2X9'6" are acceptable. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
Originally posted by CShaveRR Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:54 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp What do autocarriers of double stack cars have to do with this? Also, why do you say "supposed"? Two of the five cars have the warnings and white on the ends. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:11 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] That happened to me in a game and I saw something like that in person. In St.Catharines, CN used to run very long intermodal trains but usually running them on a certain track ( north I believe). For whatever reason, they were routed on a different track and had double stacked domestic containers in the first 20 or so cars. Well, the Merriton bridge over the tracks wasn't high enough so train 154 ended up doing a "shave in a haircut.....to bits" all over the mainline forcing them to go into emergency and Niagara Regional Police had to close the bridge and make sure it was structurally safe for cars to travel on (Merriton Road is a very busy street-didn't help traffic in St.Catharines). Some of those containers when stacked, were not an issue. I don't know what height they were. They were of course the 40 footers. Andrew Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:02 PM Well years ago the rule was ONLY 1X 8'6" + 1X 9'6". per well. Now a days I have seen 2X 9"6" when I have been out railfanning so I have to guess on certain routes in the USA they can accomdate that height. Shucks Automex cars are over 20' so for sure their has to be routes where 2X9'6" are acceptable. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) 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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed The question I have were this supposed "excess" hi cars taller then the Automex or Double stack cars when 2 containers are stacked on them? [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp What do autocarriers of double stack cars have to do with this? Also, why do you say "supposed"? Two of the five cars have the warnings and white on the ends. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:11 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored] That happened to me in a game and I saw something like that in person. In St.Catharines, CN used to run very long intermodal trains but usually running them on a certain track ( north I believe). For whatever reason, they were routed on a different track and had double stacked domestic containers in the first 20 or so cars. Well, the Merriton bridge over the tracks wasn't high enough so train 154 ended up doing a "shave in a haircut.....to bits" all over the mainline forcing them to go into emergency and Niagara Regional Police had to close the bridge and make sure it was structurally safe for cars to travel on (Merriton Road is a very busy street-didn't help traffic in St.Catharines). Some of those containers when stacked, were not an issue. I don't know what height they were. They were of course the 40 footers. Andrew Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:02 PM Well years ago the rule was ONLY 1X 8'6" + 1X 9'6". per well. Now a days I have seen 2X 9"6" when I have been out railfanning so I have to guess on certain routes in the USA they can accomdate that height. Shucks Automex cars are over 20' so for sure their has to be routes where 2X9'6" are acceptable. [:o)][:D] Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken Two 9.5 ft. double stack containers in a well car (all empty) max out at 19'-6". Have seen twice in my career what happens when too big a cube gets forced through too small a tunnel. [censored][censored][censored]
Originally posted by Junctionfan [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:05 PM Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:27 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes was not the height also posted on the cars you saw? Also were they higher the Automex car of a D/stacker with 2X9'6" container on it? [:o)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ The NSC built BN car I saw, which had the white panels and excess height warnings and appeared to be the same height as the others, has an external height of 16'-10". For the second time, what does the height of the AutoMax and loaded double stack cars have to do with this? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:16 PM We were comparing other excess height railcars with the high-cube box car. Just thought we would add some more info in case you or anybody else had any recent questions or just for the heck of it, refreshed each others memories about anything having to do with excess height. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 1, 2005 10:24 PM Take a look at the tunnels on the Tehacapi's. they can accomodate two 9-7s in a well. The BNSF paid for the project quite a few years ago. Crews came in with mining equipment and grooved a notch on both sides of all tunnels. This was done specifically to get two 9-7s thru the tunnels. Reply Edit spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:25 AM Yes I saw that when I was there. [:o)][:)] Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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Originally posted by virlon Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:28 AM OK excess height would be a Automex A/racker or 2X9'6" D./stackers. 16" maybe hi for a boxcar but surely not in general terms in todays railroading. That is what I am saying [:o)][:)] Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by ericsp Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by spbed [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:04 PM Actuall, I made a mistake in my post giving the height of the hi-cube box cars (it's 17 feet, not 15). I've corrected it. Spbed, excess height is excess height--if the height exceeds the dimensions of Plate B, it's excessive for some lines. Please leave it at that. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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