Golden State Route

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Some time ago Trains magazine wrote a article on the rebuilt GSR & showed a UPRR loco going along at 70MPH. [8D]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo

Dru

Please remember that you are dealing with a former SP line. I don't understand why the UP even thought about buying that railroad. The deferred maintainence on that company would bankrupt the Federal government!

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When you are looking at the diamond from east to west there are several grade crossings back from the diamond + 1 on the west side of the diamond. Also the cam pix is distorted the UPRR tracks are making a sweeping left hand turn from maybe 1/2 mile on the east side of the diamond & 1/4 mile more on the west side of the diamond before the tracks become tangent again. [:o)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by farmer03

the only time i've seen a UP train at speed is on the BNSF. every time i'm near the UP's ex-CNW (via rochelle) it's a parking lot...........why is that?? the commuter traffic fouls it up that bad or is it just THAT busy..

[kenneo]

Dru

Please remember that you are dealing with a former SP line. I don't understand why the UP even thought about buying that railroad. The deferred maintainence on that company would bankrupt the Federal government!

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here is another alert. A WBer with 3 UPRR locos just passed the Ft. Madison cam at 2:16PM destined for the GSR. Good watching. [:o)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

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Another UPRR WBer D/stacker just passed the Ft. Madison cam @3.45PM destined for the GSR. 3 loco set the middle one is a NS. [:)][:D]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

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Well today is UPRR day on the BNSF transcon as a EB UPRR D/stacker just when by the cam in Ft. Madison which came off the GSR. [:p][:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

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Heads up to you a WB UPRR D/stacker just passed the Ft. Madison webcam. @ 0930 Lead by 2 UPRRs locos 3rd loco is a CSX. [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

the only time i've seen a UP train at speed is on the BNSF. every time i'm near the UP's ex-CNW (via rochelle) it's a parking lot...........why is that?? the commuter traffic fouls it up that bad or is it just THAT busy..

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A 2nd UPRR container train off the GSR just passed the Ft. Madison webcam on it way
to Chicago via the BNSF transcon. [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

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Well thanks for that info. If I understood you correctly you are saying that only about 12 trains per day were using the GSR between El Paso & the BNSF in Ks. I was planning on going to ELP in Oct & explore the line at least until Vaughn NM but if only 12 trains per day use it it does not sound to exciting to me sorry to say. I to am a big UPRR fan & went to western Ariz to actually see the UPS bullet train roar by at whatever hi speed it was going at. That was worth every penny I spent in air fare to see that sucker chugging along. As I am typing this a UPRR D/stacker that came off the GSR is passing the Ft. Madison webcam on the BNSF transcon. It must have passed your area earlier this AM. He is really hauling a$$. [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by favuprailroadfan



Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]

[jeffhergert]

The entire subdivision could be 40mph and as long as things are moving, trains should make it with hours to spare.
If UPS freight is involved in a derailment, I doubt UPS's biggest concern will be that their trailer is in the ditch because the track was only good for 40 instead of 70.
The UP's engineering budget for 2005 is $l.8 Billion. That's for everything, regular maintenence, new construction, signal projects, etc. I was told by a MOP (road foreman or travelling engineer on other rrs) that to just keep up with normal replacement, they need to put in 4 1/2 million new ties a year. This year the hope to put in 5 million to try to get ahead a bit.
Remember there is a lot more UP than just the Pratt Subdivision. They'll get to it
Jeff

[favuprailroadfan]

Hey all, I am back after a long absence. UP's GSR might be in some trouble. I am still in SW KS,( Kismet to be exact), along this line. I have talked to some of the train service guys, and they said that almost half of the line is at 40 mph! Its 40 miles of this restriction once they leave Pratt( crew change point) and then its 60 for about 4 or 5 miles then back to 40 for another 10. Once they leave Guymon, OK, it is 45-60 all the way to Dalhart, that is almost 75 miles worth of restriction. The Liberal Sub is only 243 miles in length, but at those speeds, about 60% of the trains are dying on the law. Think about something here, this is the same line that they were running the BULLET on at 75 mph. I wonder what UPS would have thought, if that thing derailed on the these type of track conditions!? UP needs to get their act together and do something about this, they think they are GOD. I am a big UP fan but right now, I am very disappointed in them, knowing they have a good line here, that could possibly compete with BNSF, that had been proven with the bullet if they just spend some money for a little bit of TLC. Our density is down to about 12 a day if that, back in pre-merger SP days, when they had the inspections and fueling in Liberal, they were putting 30-40 a day. This line is very capable of handling it, if it was in good shape. Sidings every 15 miles all over 9000 feet in length, except Liberal@8700. All sidings have controlled switches, its all but wired for CTC.

If anybody would like to add to this or have any questions, just ask and I will try and tell you about the line some more.
Thanks, Dru

P.S. Sorry I wrote so much but I had to vent, the wife don't like to here about it. [:D][:D]