OFF TOPIC: Im a BIG fool!!!!!!!!!!

[dharmon]

A veterinarian and a username here:

http://www.petfo.com/dir/Fish/Informational/

[bnsfkline]

What do you guys think I should Get?

[Anonymous]

I honestly can't remember how many aquariums I've had. I know it's been a bunch of them. bnsfkline, I think you'll like the bigger tank. Don't get carried away with too many fish just yet. Get it started first.

Just look at your experience with the five gal. as water under the bridge. I'm sorry all the other ones died. Sounds fishy to me.

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[edbenton]

bnsfkline you are going to be pushing it with that amount of fish in a 25 gallon tank. I have a 150 gallon tank at at the max I had maybe 90 fish i the tank at one point and that was with a filter setup that turned the tank over 10-12 imes an hour. Sliver dollars can reach around 6-7 inches each so they take up more room than you think. I would myself keep a maximum of around 15 fi***ops in a tank that size yes it may be 25 gallons, but at a lower fish count the water should stay better quality for a while and also not shock the fish near as bad.

[Mookie]

Mookie is flattered - I think.

She had a goldfish once - lived to be about 7 years old. Lived in a small fish bowl. Probably died of boredom!

Don't stick paws in anything wet. Do you know how long it takes to dry fur?

[bnsfkline]

Just by Curiosity, How many of us here HAVE Aquariums, and what size is your tank, and what kind of fish do you have?

I upgrade my 5 gallon to a 25 gallon tank today. It currently houses my only survivng fish, a Red Wag Tail Platy that I named MOOKIE, (maybe I should reserve that name for a CATFISH (hehe) swimming in it right now. He will get some friends by This weekend. Here is what I am planning on Getting.

2 Male Fancy Guppies
2 Female Fancy Guppies.
2 Silver Dollars
2 Lg Algea Eaters
1 Red Swordtail Male
1 Red Swordtail Females
2 Ghost Catfish
2 Long Finned Black Tetras
2 Black Mollies
2 Cherry Barbs
2 Silver Mollies
2 Hi-Fin Platties
2 Glass Fish

Thats 24 right there, and with my lone survivor, thats 25. 25 fish in my 25 gallon. I have everything set up in my new tank. My old 5 Gallon now hoses the 3 Paradise Fish (Orange Spike Type) and their old 2.5 gallon is now home to 3 Buenos Areas Tetras (The Mean Fin-Nippers).

My new Set up, is everything I have going now correct?

[kenneo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Shriek...!!!! Water!!!!!

And just what is it, do you think, that your paw goes into to retrieve the finny snack? Hummmmmmm?

What you do have to be careful of are those "full meal deals" swimming around. They can just grab right on and pull you in. It ain't the water, oh purr fect one.

We'll all be there to help. (Now, just where IS Mudchicken when I need him)

[Mookie]

I'm not gonna go there, no way, no how, nope, nope nope!

[Anonymous]

Off Topic conversion to "On Topic":

I left my fish on the tracks (it was an accident, I swear it was!!)

[Mookie]

Shriek...!!!! Water!!!!!

[kenneo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by mehrlich

Yes, Mookie, it HAS been interesting. I'm glad we all waded into this thread.


m

groan

Oh, Mook............come on and get into the swim of things.[:D][:D]

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mehrlich

Yes, Mookie, it HAS been interesting. I'm glad we all waded into this thread.


m

groan

[Anonymous]

Yes, Mookie, it HAS been interesting. I'm glad we all waded into this thread.


m

[richardy]

I test the water and use Perfect pH. I did have serious problems in the past but Perfect pH has been a blessing. Along with temperature improper pH can kill fish fast. I do strictly follow the one fish per gallon rule no matter what type of fish is in the tank.

[spbed]

Well when I was a kid to make $$$$$$ I used to bred Siamese fighting fish.

1st of all may I say that sounds like a lot of fish for a 5 gallon tank.

My son has a tank & when he injects new water into old he puts chemicals in to insure the water is a neutral position.

I would suspect the infusion of totally new water may have somehow shocked the fish which cause them to decease. Just a guess Mook[:D]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bnsfkline

AS some of you know, I am starting a Fi***ank. I had a nice 5 gallon tank going with

5 White Clouds, 4 Zebra Danios, 2 Male Guppies, 2 Female Guppies, 2 Platties, 2 Long Finned Tetras, 2 Long Finned Blue Danios, and 1 algea Eater.

I did a 100% water change because a fish had come down with Turburcleouses.

Anyway, I put this fish back in the water after 2 days, and in an hour I lost the following

5 White Clouds, 4 Zebra Danios, 1 Female Guppy, 1 Male Guppy, 1 Long Finned Tetra, and the 1 algea eater.

If someone on here is into Fish, Can some one tell me what I did wrong???????

I am thinking I am a BIG FOOL!

[Mookie]

Hmm...this has been more interesting than some of the "train" postings!

[kenneo]

Places, such as Wal-Mart, (mass marketers where volume and price are paramont) almost never seem to care for any of their live pet items properly. Fish are particularly hard to deal with in the retail environment. Even if you should purchase from a highly reputable outlet, you need to quarenteen your fish for at least a week looking for things like disease and dead fish or fish not acting properly. To do otherwise invites unknown disease introduction to your community that can (and will) kill everything.

[miniwyo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CopCarSS

By the by, just remember, the smaller the tank, the easier it is to screw it up, since percentages and such are much more critical. Its sort of a paradox. The larger the tank, the easier it is to care for. Of course, its a lot more expensive...but thats far from being paradoxical.

Im sorry but what does 2 doctors have to do with fish??

(Sorry had to make the really bad joke)


The thing that I forgot to add to my first post was about the complete water change. Been There Done That. If you do a complete water change you need to let the water circulate for at least 24 hours befor adding fish.

There is some stuff you can get basically anywhere, its called Stress Coat, It will help the fish get that slimy coat on them when you introduce them into fresh water

One thing about fish. NEVER BUY FROM WAL-MART!!! Cheap fish are better than expensive fish, but Wal-Mart fish are too cheap.

[CopCarSS]

By the by, just remember, the smaller the tank, the easier it is to screw it up, since percentages and such are much more critical. Its sort of a paradox. The larger the tank, the easier it is to care for. Of course, its a lot more expensive...but thats far from being paradoxical.

[CopCarSS]

QUOTE: WHAT THE H*** HAS GOT TO DO WITH TRAINS??????????

You never know...some of the fish might have been shipped by train. Doubtful, but you never know. The tanks, and other equipment have a pretty good shot, though, I would imagine.

Don't get too worked up about it. I'll pass on some advice I got on Amtrak's #5, the Westbound California Zephyr, "Baby, you's just got to let go, and let God, honey child." Ther are plenty of other interesting train threads here (not to mention a couple uninteresting ones, too...) Smile, relax, and enjoy life. It's too short for anything else.

Chris May
Denver, CO

[SteelMonsters]

I have a 10 gallon tank stocked with 5 tiger barbs. I used to have some other fi***hat I had for a couple years but they eventually died.

I keep them in a bowl with their old water while I clean the tank. I put the tank into the new water for 15 minutes then lower it into the tank just enough so the water can slowly combine. One of my tiger barbs jumped out of the bowl while I was in another room. After couple minutes I realized I was missing one so I looked for it. I found it and put it in with the other fishes. It looked dead so I though I was going to have to flush a poor dead fish. I came back to lower the bowl into the tank. The fish seemed barily alive, I could tell the difference because it had darkened. It seemed really bad still when I finally poured the fish and the water into the tank. After a few day that fish somehow sprung back to life with a darker color and seemed to suffered from some brain damage. It lived for over 6 months then finally died.

Things that will kill fish. (from $100's worth of experience)
- Sudden temperature changes
- Sudden chemical changes
- Toxic chemicals such as chlorine or hairspray
- Fish bowls
- Overcrowding
- Mixing certain aggresive fish
- Little fish = big fish's dinner
- Sip of beer
- Wrong water temperature for fish (too hot or too cold)
- Wrong water makup such as saltwater fish in freshwater
- Not enough bubles
- Poor water filtration
- Poor ammonia protection
- Small tank size

Helpful hints
Larger tanks take more problems to kill fish.
Replace about 10-20% of the tank water every week.
Keep gravel clean of food and waste to prevent algae.
Don't replace more than half of the water at a time to maintain bacteria that will break down excess food.
Don't allow the water temperature to vary more than a 1 degree per 2 minutes (approximate)
I siphon my water into the tank. It moves the water slowly and prevents the water from changing when the water level is equal.
With larger tanks, don't stock all at once. For one thing it eases the tank into a pseudo ecosystem. Secondly it allows you to get a best of the choices you have of fish healthwise. Usually a later visit to will result in better quality fish for at least one group you want.

Personally I like unit trains and "unit tanks" also. I wouldn't mind of black mollys untill they multiply like crazy until your forced to take out all but the cream then let the rest die from natrual selection.

[bnsfkline]

gtrr, if you can't live with off topics, then you shouldnt look at subjects that say "Off Topic" Also, we do not allow any bad four letter words in here.

[Anonymous]

WHAT THE HELL HAS GOT TO DO WITH TRAINS??????????

[Mikeygaw]

i need to get my eyes checked... i looked at first at the Subject line and thought you were claiming you were a Big Foot

[CSXrules4eva]

oh my thats not good. . . . all thefish died :( I think I have a pretty good idea why. The 100% water change did it. Fish are very senitive to a change in water, temp and molecular structure. Even a one degree rise or drop in temp will kill the fish. Not to mention the pH level change, Cl change too and, who knows there might be a trace of Al or so. Never change the water like that if you have fish in it, you must test the water and treat it if nessicary. I have a pond and I test the water in it about every 3 months or so. You can buy water test kits at pond stores or in a scientific catalog

[Anonymous]

I knew that something smelt kind of FISHY[:D].

[mustanggt]

My dad made the same mistake not once, but twice. Although some sort of small blue fish survived both plagues, it later died when my dad got fed up with the aqaurium and dumped it at his building site under some gravel

R.I.P. Blueman 1999- 2003[:p]

[kenneo]

Jim

All of the above is good advice. As I read your opening message, I cringed at the size of tank and the number of fish in it. Garented to kill all of the fish in it. Add to the overcrowding, several of those varieties need room for active swimming. And the water volume in that arrangement is simply too small to permit ANY filtration system from working properly for more than three small fish.

The quickest way to kill a fish is to put it into "strange" water. Perhaps it is my conservative makeup, but I absolutely cringe at more than a 10% water change. In addition, when I purchased a new fish, it always went into the smallest possible tank to aclimate it (porcedure on request). My smallest tank for other than special purposes was 10 gals, and I really didn't like to go below 20 gals. for a community tank of any population.

I raised tropical freshwater fish as a business in the 1970's and also was a member of a regional aquarium society and won Best of Show and other awards multiple times (this sentence is to establish qualifications, not brag!). So, if you would like more information please e-mail me.

[Anonymous]

Way too many fish. Also, Scratch is right, only change some of the water every time. I also wouldn't put any fish in for a day or two so the chlorine and whatever else is in the water has time to disperse. I'd start off again slow, maybe a plecostamus and some catfish, they'll keep it clean before you introduce any other fish. How about temperature? It's also easier to keep a larger, say ten gallon aquarium than it is to keep a 5 gal. Don't buy expensive fish.


m

[Anonymous]

I think the 100% water change did it .to much change ,you should saved 2 gallons of the same water treat it then add the 3 gallons let it run for day