This Is Horrible! Take A Look!

[Anonymous]

Back to the peeling paint discussion. . . I once read that the strict California environmental laws forced Espee to use substandard paint on their locomotives, and it began to peel and badly fade just a short while after it was applied. Maybe this is the cause? Take it or leave it. . .

[Glen Ellyn]

Kids allways get to railroad cars.

How can they get to the engines?

[Anonymous]

UP has a former Rio Grande caboose for local use in Salt Lake City that's usually coupled to the locomotive assigned for local use (rebuilt GP40) when it's parked in the yard. Some idiot tagged the caboose, nearly covering up the Rio Grande logo, but left the locomotive alone. [:(!]

[Anonymous]

Someone stated above that at least the road numbers hadn't been painted over.

Vandals learned long ago that if they paint over a car's reporting marks and other critical info, the railroads will immediately send that car to the paint shop. It might not get a full repaint, but it will at least get 'patched' and the info reapplied, 'ruining' the graffiti in the taggers' eyes.

But if they leave them alone, the railroad tends to leave the graffiti alone for weeks, months, even years. The way businesses are these days, they don't want to 'waste' money repainting their locomotives or cars all the time.

[Anonymous]

If you really want audacity, check out these photos of TGV and Eurostar bullet trains that have been tagged!




Passenger cars aren't off limits to some ambitious taggers. How would you like to ride in one of these? (Yes, they are passenger cars!)




I've always hated graffiti and stuff like this really makes me angry! If you're going to be stupid enough to vandalize freight cars, that's one thing, but at least have some consideration for people who might want to actually see something while riding a train!

The dimwits responsible for these acts of vandalism are on the net. At http://www.graffiti.org/trains/index.trains.html , where I got these photos, there are thousands of pictures of graffitied trains from all over the world, plus links to dozens of other simmilar sites. Strangely enough, they have a link to trains.com!

This photo also caught my attention. Where are the railroad police when you need 'em?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

Here is an aerial photograph of where those locomotives, in the original post, were at.
2004
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/addressimage.aspx?t=4&s=9&lon=-117.933030660276&lat=33.8308939360247&alon=-117.93303783&alat=33.82908685&w=3&opt=0&qs=Mable%7cAnaheim%7cCA%7c&addr=W+Mable+St%2c+Anaheim%2c+CA+92802
1994
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&lon=-117.93303783&lat=33.82908685&alon=-117.93303783&alat=33.82908685&w=3&opt=0&qs=Mable%7cAnaheim%7cCA%7c&addr=W+Mable+St%2c+Anaheim%2c+CA+92802
The building inside of the wye is the MOW building.

Thanks for the aerial pix.Its nice to see exactly what has changed in that area,since I used to live there from 1984-1994. Its amazing what memories I had of that area, now being brought back to life. Again thank you ![^]

[Anonymous]

I dont know what is worse, that graffiti or the new BNSF logo.......

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo

I saw a tagged SP unit come throught here the other day. somone painted a prefect rectangle under the cab windows. i believe it was a yellow with some red numbering inside it!!! [:D][}:)]

You are so right! ROFLMAO.[#ditto]

[Anonymous]

Ugh, it ignores subjects. My first line was that the first two images were mine.

[Anonymous]

and yes, both in the small Anaheim yard and wye. UP seems to be taking no good care of their
equipment, that's for sure - these locomotives would be in a sad state even without the tags.

I'm not sure whether or not they get tagged at Anaheim - it's certainly possible, but they could get
targeted anywhere. The SD60s seem to change around - they arrive nightly on the Anaheim
Hauler, exchanging old for new. It's actually pretty busy during the night there - it's the daytime
that they sit all day.

The switchers, on the other hand, sit all night and get used all day.

UP has quite a few switchers still active, including SW1500s. The locals that originate from
Anaheim use paired locomotives; there are generally 4 locomotives there, of which half are
SW1500s. Others may be SD38(-2)s, MP15ACs, and the like. Recently they've started
including ex B30-7 remote control ex-locomotives - no traction motors, no fuel tank. They
simply relay radio remote control signals.

[dwRavenstar]

Just thinking on this railfans get chased away and taggers simply get away scenario. Isn't it logical that the taggers are out running around, committing their crime, in the dead of night while railfans do most of their sightseeing and picture taking in daylight hours?

Dave (dwRavenstar)

[fievel]

[tup] I couldn't agree more with BNSF railfan. Tagging is a crime, not a sport.[:(!]

[AntonioFP45]

Well, it's so annoying, but another way to look at it. These taggers are likely young. In a few years tagging railroad cars as a whole will die out again, just like it did in the late 1970s after the graffitti epidemic was in style. Taggers eventually get older and either clean up their act or wind up in jail........in either case they find more entertaining things to do once they're out of their teens and in their 20s. The newer generations will find "other forms" of expression as kids will often say that what their older counterparts did was "old school" and not in style.

[Train Guy 3]

At least you can still read the engine numbers.

[tree68]

I was gonna say that based on the looks of the "real" paint job on that loco, the taggers came close to doing UP a favor...

I saw an autorack (trilevel) the other day that had the WHOLE side painted. Top to bottom and end to end. Do these taggers bring along scaffolds, too? Sheesh!

[ericsp]

Here is an aerial photograph of where those locomotives, in the original post, were at.
2004
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/addressimage.aspx?t=4&s=9&lon=-117.933030660276&lat=33.8308939360247&alon=-117.93303783&alat=33.82908685&w=3&opt=0&qs=Mable%7cAnaheim%7cCA%7c&addr=W+Mable+St%2c+Anaheim%2c+CA+92802
1994
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&lon=-117.93303783&lat=33.82908685&alon=-117.93303783&alat=33.82908685&w=3&opt=0&qs=Mable%7cAnaheim%7cCA%7c&addr=W+Mable+St%2c+Anaheim%2c+CA+92802
The building inside of the wye is the MOW building.

[Anonymous]

I know that im NOT sapossed to say this,Anyone who is caught spraying Graffiti on any Railroad property should be shot on the spot & then locked up a long time.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jwinter

Eolafan hit it on the head. The railroads chase railfans but can't seem to find these vandals. The vast majority of these railfans would be the first to report vandals like these and can be the eyes and ears for the railroads, but instead fans get chased away. Maybe we're easy targets.

A week or so ago I posted a story about a tagger that was killed while committing his crime. It still surprises me that more of these idiots aren't killed or seriously injuried more often. When these nuts are caught, their punishment should be to clean grafitti off of railcars with paint remover and a toothbrush.

John / Wisconsin

I agree with you 100% John. When I was a kid and teenager, we climbed around on rail cars, jumped from one to the other and made club houses out of them, but we never defaced them in any kind of way.

Trainluver1

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by miniwyo

I saw a tagged SP unit come throught here the other day. somone painted a prefect rectangle under the cab windows. i believe it was a yellow with some red numbering inside it!!! [:D][}:)]

I think I saw that same engine miniwyo. That was the day I got sick and threw my lunch up!...

Trainluver1

[oskar]

I saw a CSX on a spray train it had graffti all over the words CSX on one side of the engine.

tatans- you joined TRAINS on my Birthday!!



kevin

[tatans]

eolafan: I saw a comedian report the U.S. government can trace the exact barn and stall where ONE reported cow with mad cow disease is in Canada, but cannot find 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. I remember as a schoolkid getting caught and reprimanded by the railway police at least 20 times a year for only walking across the tracks on our way to school. Priorities???

[eolafan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jwinter

Eolafan hit it on the head. The railroads chase railfans but can't seem to find these vandals. The vast majority of these railfans would be the first to report vandals like these and can be the eyes and ears for the railroads, but instead fans get chased away. Maybe we're easy targets.

A week or so ago I posted a story about a tagger that was killed while committing his crime. It still surprises me that more of these idiots aren't killed or seriously injuried more often. When these nuts are caught, their punishment should be to clean grafitti off of railcars with paint remover and a toothbrush.

John / Wisconsin

On Saturday evenings I like to watch COPS television show on Fox network and frequently see the police using sting tactics to catch "johns" of prostitutes and then ask my wife (while watching all the police "high five" each other for a job well done) why these cops are not out catching the REAL criminals (like killers, child molesters, and especially drug sellers) and not so involved in such crimes only because they can get such publiciity on COPS or other such shows.

[miniwyo]

I saw a tagged SP unit come throught here the other day. somone painted a prefect rectangle under the cab windows. i believe it was a yellow with some red numbering inside it!!! [:D][}:)]

[CShaveRR]

Unfortunately, I saw a nasty one today at work--a UP SD70 so covered with graffiti that you couldn't see the flag that should have been there (it was in the 4900 series; didn't note the exact number).

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cnwfan11

Whoa!!!!!!!!!!! Its obvious that someone/somebody dont like the UP. Now lets see......is there a decal set of this?[:-,]

----IS NOTHING SACRED?????----

[jwinter]

Eolafan hit it on the head. The railroads chase railfans but can't seem to find these vandals. The vast majority of these railfans would be the first to report vandals like these and can be the eyes and ears for the railroads, but instead fans get chased away. Maybe we're easy targets.

A week or so ago I posted a story about a tagger that was killed while committing his crime. It still surprises me that more of these idiots aren't killed or seriously injuried more often. When these nuts are caught, their punishment should be to clean grafitti off of railcars with paint remover and a toothbrush.

John / Wisconsin

[Anonymous]

I remember a few years ago I saw an SP engine tagged.

[tatans]

Get used to it, this is just the beginning, you will soon see some pretty grotesque paint jobs in the future on locomotives, these bozos are also now tagging individual automobiles in parking structures, white suv's and vans being the prime target along with high end cars, I guess when these guys spay paint YOUR car, attitudes toward this crime will change.

[coborn35]

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=94009 Here is another tag pic. The UP deserves to have this unit tagged after they destroyed the beautiful SP paint scheme.