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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:20 AM

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The Trains site is working perfectly for me this morning. Quick responses and no chaff.

But it looks like it made you double post the same post!

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:24 PM

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diningcar
The Trains site is working perfectly for me this morning. Quick responses and no chaff.

 

But it looks like it made you double post the same post!

 

Ditto.

 

Ditto.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 12:35 PM

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But it looks like it made you double post the same post!

Which is interesting, as any time I impatiently hit enter a second time, I get told that it's a duplicate post.

OTOH, I used to work with a woman who frequently managed to double enter on one of our machines.  She was the only one who ever did.  Usually it meant that someone had to go in and tell the machine to ignore the second command (she didn't know how).

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 1:40 PM

The evolution of disk storage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt5t84Z7u_I

 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 5:08 PM

Solid state is now where it's at.  I have a 32 gigabyte "thumb drive" sitting next to me, and I put a terabyte drive into my ham shack microcomputer...

Meanwhile, in the garage attic, in a box, sits a museum piece - a Tandy 1000SX into which I installed an aftermarked 40 megabyte hard drive.  It was so nice, not having to boot up with a 5.25" floppy or two...

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 5:52 PM

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Solid state is now where it's at.  I have a 32 gigabyte "thumb drive" sitting next to me, and I put a terabyte drive into my ham shack microcomputer...

Meanwhile, in the garage attic, in a box, sits a museum piece - a Tandy 1000SX into which I installed an aftermarked 40 megabyte hard drive.  It was so nice, not having to boot up with a 5.25" floppy or two...

A couple of years ago I had an issue with my W10 Dell laptop and had to have it diagnosed and repaired professionally.  The fault ended up being a cooling fan that wasn't cooling to the degree necessary.  The machine had a 1 TB hard drive and the tech said he could install a 1 TB Solid State Drive for about $100.  So now the machine has the SDD installed and I got a cover and can use the prior HDD as an external drive.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 7:15 PM

I remember upgrading to a 30MB RLL drive, and more RAM right at the depths of the Reagan-era price increase on foreign-made chips, in order to run Oracle 5.1 (!) for the Collaborative Ocular Melanoma Study's immense reams of data.  Which turned out to be supplied -- the raw data, mind you -- on one floppy disk.

I got the first Mac IIx sold in New York, with the amazing A/UX operating system preinstalled on its EIGHTY megabyte drive -- I could not believe I had All That Storage available to me!

After that, it was blasé acceptance of Moore's-Law improvements... I didn't even bother to read much about GMR as hard drives sneaked from 4GB up to 320GB to multiple terabytes in the $100 range.

Sadly, I can still remember my first exposure to very large storage -- it was at the Government Computer Show in I think 1991, and the Exabyte company had built a wall of their streaming tape drives about 8 feet high and a whole booth wide, all live.  (I don't remember what they were hooked to, and I suppose the story is better if we imagine they actually were).  We now have flash-based SSDs with astounding MTTF that are larger than that...

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, May 30, 2024 10:46 AM

Dear trains I am now getting instant response to any inquiries.  Maybe this forum fixed??

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, May 31, 2024 2:48 PM

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Dear trains I am now getting instant response to any inquiries.  Maybe this forum fixed?? 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, May 31, 2024 3:54 PM

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It's been hit or miss for me.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, May 31, 2024 8:44 PM

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It's been hit or miss for me.

It has been hit or miss all week, still much better than last week when it was miss, miss , miss miss miss

Good enough to say it is working, bad enough to frustrate most people.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Saturday, June 1, 2024 5:55 PM

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It's been hit or miss for me.

 

It has been hit or miss all week, still much better than last week when it was miss, miss , miss miss miss

Good enough to say it is working, bad enough to frustrate most people.

 

It probably doesn't matter much whether or not the fora continue, since most of the posts are in an echo chamber of you and a few others.  In 2024, many long-time members have left or ceased activity.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:14 AM

charlie hebdo
In 2024, many long-time members have left or ceased activity.

Alas, many have moved on to their final reward. Some we know of, some were of an age where that seems likely.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, June 2, 2024 9:02 AM

tree68

 

 
charlie hebdo
In 2024, many long-time members have left or ceased activity.

 

Alas, many have moved on to their final reward. Some we know of, some were of an age where that seems likely.

 

On a happier note, a video from Facebook showing Larry's train, I believe.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/M8wL2dHEnEq6Wxc1/?mibextid=oFDknk

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:38 AM

Operation of the forum as it is presently operating WILL NOT bring in any new members.  The forum is operating in the manner of PennCentral passenger service before Amtrak, in a manner to drive away any passenger foolish enough to use a PC passenger train one time from ever using their 'service' again.

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Posted by OWTX on Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:57 AM

My guess is they P2V'd the Kalmbach servers to a hosted environment during that outage - now the forums connect, if very slowly on occasion. Which tracks with the forum software being ancient, buggy and a RAM hog.

The likely replacement are unused facebook or disqus comments on articles.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:24 PM

charlie hebdo
On a happier note, a video from Facebook showing Larry's train, I believe.

Indeed.  I wasn't on it that day, though.  MP U3.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, June 3, 2024 3:34 PM

The 'Main' Index screen for the Forum does not appear to be updating in 'real time'.  On some threads it will show poster X as being the most recent poster, when the thread gets called up you find poster Y was the last poster to the thread and that post was made an hour or more from the current time.

Additionally I have 'made' posts, an a minute or more after initiating the 'Submit Your Reply' button I get 'Sorry there was a problem with your last request' with additional verbiage about the site being off line or having a unhandled error.

If I use the back button and resubmit the post, most of the time I will get the 'Duplicate Post' response.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, June 3, 2024 10:44 PM

BaltACD

The 'Main' Index screen for the Forum does not appear to be updating in 'real time'.  On some threads it will show poster X as being the most recent poster, when the thread gets called up you find poster Y was the last poster to the thread and that post was made an hour or more from the current time.

Additionally I have 'made' posts, an a minute or more after initiating the 'Submit Your Reply' button I get 'Sorry there was a problem with your last request' with additional verbiage about the site being off line or having a unhandled error.

If I use the back button and resubmit the post, most of the time I will get the 'Duplicate Post' response.

 

Yes, that glitch or the instant Time Out message, "Site taking too long to respond"

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, June 3, 2024 11:25 PM

BaltACD

The 'Main' Index screen for the Forum does not appear to be updating in 'real time'.  

Had same problem.  finally was able to book mark each section ( ie general discussion, passenger. etc ) and it connects quickly.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 12:09 AM

Now we're at the point where it seems 90% of the posts are talking about whether users can post or not.  At this rate, does it really matter if the site is up anymore?

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 7:17 AM

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Now we're at the point where it seems 90% of the posts are talking about whether users can post or not.  At this rate, does it really matter if the site is up anymore?

It looks like the Forum is being given the pre-Amtrak Penn Central passenger service 'solution'.  Make the service SO BAD nobody will want to use it. 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 10:58 AM

BaltACD

 

 
zugmann
Now we're at the point where it seems 90% of the posts are talking about whether users can post or not.  At this rate, does it really matter if the site is up anymore?

 

It looks like the Forum is being given the pre-Amtrak Penn Central passenger service 'solution'.  Make the service SO BAD nobody will want to use it. 

 

It's become a hit or (mostly) miss operation.  The SP also made some trains so bad it was eady to abandon gor lack of ridership.  

I recall some PC "confuctors* were Institutionally rude.

 

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 11:49 AM

BaltACD

 

Additionally I have 'made' posts, an a minute or more after initiating the 'Submit Your Reply' button I get 'Sorry there was a problem with your last request' with additional verbiage about the site being off line or having a unhandled error.

If I use the back button and resubmit the post, most of the time I will get the 'Duplicate Post' response.

 

After making a new post, I often get the message, “Sorry there was a problem with your last request.” At first I assumed this meant that my message was not posted.  However, I found that even though I get that message, my post has been accepted and appears on the forum as it should.  So it goes like this:
 
Submit the new post.
 
Receive the message saying that there was a problem with my last request.
 
Ignore that message.
 
Close the forum. 
 
Re-open the forum and find that my post displays as I intended.
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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 2:16 PM

Biaggini and, I think, Menk were notorious for making riding conditions and amenities as miserable as possible to spur train-off petitions.  Expense of vending machines/'automat car' is one thing; intentionally providing miserable food in them quite another...

For sheer conductor nastiness it would be hard to beat some of  the Erie-Lackawanna commuter routes in northern New Jersey.  When someone threatens to put Karl R. Zimmermann off the train, you know it's tyranny.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 6:48 PM

Biaggini and, I think, Menk were notorious for making riding conditions and amenities as miserable as possible to spur train-off petitions.  Expense of vending machines/'automat car' is one thing; intentionally providing miserable food in them quite another...

For sheer conductor nastiness it would be hard to beat some of  the Erie-Lackawanna commuter routes in northern New Jersey.  When someone threatens to put Karl R. Zimmermann off the train, you know it's tyranny.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, June 6, 2024 6:05 PM

Today - D day 2024

I have had serveral 504 time outs and several occasions when the forum responds like it is supposed to. ?????

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, June 7, 2024 12:44 AM

   I have just witnessed a miracle!  The site was very sluggish, taking much of the minute to respond and occasionally going past and giving me the 504.  Then shortly after midnight CDT, the logjam broke loose and I started getting instant responses.  Ain't that sump'm?

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Friday, June 7, 2024 9:55 AM

I've been getting 504 tieout errors for the last few days, but the site came up promptly this morning.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Friday, June 7, 2024 12:25 PM

Overmod
Overmod wrote the following post 2 days ago: Biaggini and, I think, Menk were notorious for making riding conditions and amenities as miserable as possible to spur train-off petitions.

Biaggini definitely.  Louis Menk was rumored to have said the point of setting up Amtrak was to have it fail within a few years. However, NP and BN passenger trains seemed to remain at a pretty high level of passenger amenities as late as 1968 when I last rode the combined NCL/EB diner Chicago to East Dubuque.

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