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Colorado Pacific
Posted by kgbw49 on Saturday, November 19, 2022 8:33 PM
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Sunday, November 20, 2022 10:02 AM

Beyond the grain elevator now under construction, there seems to be a fair amount of wishful thinking involved.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Sunday, November 20, 2022 7:38 PM

Colorado Pacific submitted the winning bid for the bankrupt San Luis & Rio Grande RR.

Jeff

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, November 21, 2022 6:43 AM

25 mph and 286k compliant.

If there is consistent agricultural business they should be able to make a go of it.

It is not that different from other grainger short lines on the plains.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 9:58 AM

Considering that they own a very large portion of the cropland under production (white wheat) and have spent a healthy chunk of $$$ undoing the damage caused by previous owner V&S/A&K Materials, they will do just fine. (The owner/son is very hands-on and very visible in the community)

It would help if the recovery from the extreme drought from two years ago stays away and lets dryland farming resume.

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 11:15 AM

mudchicken
undoing the damage caused by previous owner V&S/A&K Materials

Wikipedia states that V&S/A&K were "forced" to sell (2014) .  Is there a story there?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, November 22, 2022 12:02 PM

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, November 23, 2022 8:04 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

CSSHEGEWISCH
 

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

This is a favorite tactic of A&K, using a subsidiary (V&S, SF&L, KCT etc) to gut a rail line and speed the way to abandonment and scrapping.They then disappear and emerge somewhere else. They ditch their responsibilities as landowners/custodians after abandonment and leave others to pick up the pieces. Bad corporate citizen for over 30 years.

Some of you may have heard of a more prominent case of what happened here with the sale and proposed abandonment of the west end of the TP&W. 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, November 23, 2022 11:21 AM

mudchicken

 CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

 

 

 
CSSHEGEWISCH
 

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

 

 
CSSHEGEWISCH

I believe that the STB reasonably concluded that V&S/A&K had no interest in continued operation of the line (was more interested in selling the scrap) and did not appreciate that they were gaming the process.

 

 

"...This is a favorite tactic of A&K, using a subsidiary (V&S, SF&L, KCT etc) to gut a rail line and speed the way to abandonment and scrapping.They then disappear and emerge somewhere else. They ditch their responsibilities as landowners/custodians after abandonment and leave others to pick up the pieces. Bad corporate citizen for over 30 years.

 

Some of you may have heard of a more prominent case of what happened here with the sale and proposed abandonment of the west end of the TP&W..."

 

 
   Have read ths tale of "The Colorado Pacific"  and having over time, developed a very healthy respect, for our fellow poster, 'Mudchicken';      I knew there was an interesting 'back story' to this tale.  So from the 'source of the OP's original posting of the link on the Colorado Pacific's new power, I did a little surfing on the 'net'...Whistling
 
  From the same source @ The Kiowa County Independent here is linked the back story:@  https://kiowacountyindependent.com/news/916-i-hear-that-train-a-comin-the-story-behind-the-story
 
NOTE: I am now going to start a New Thread here, so that I do not further co-opt the original posting.
 

 

 


 

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