Never fire the chauffeur before the end of the ride...
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BigJim wjstix More importantly, since the race to Chicago... If you actually watched the movie, you would have seen that the race was TO Boulder City.
wjstix More importantly, since the race to Chicago...
If you actually watched the movie, you would have seen that the race was TO Boulder City.
Yes, it was taking iron lungs from Chicago to Boulder City. As I mentioned, I haven't watched the movie since the 1980s so memory is a bit hazy. The discussion about the distance and time etc. are still the same regardless which direction it was heading though.
On one of the Roanoke VA NRHS 611 Independence Limited trips I was on, Grahm Claytor was running 611 between Bellvue, OH and Ft.Wayne IN. I clocked the speed using time between mile posts and got 70mph. (51 sec.) The employee TT indicated speed limit for the track for passenger was 60 mph. Enroute to the motel, I asked some of the loco crew about it and was assured they NEVER went that fast.
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adkrr64 BaltACD In the present day, the only Senior Railroad Official that maintained their 'Engineer's Card' was Cindy Sanborn while she was with CSX. Of course once she moved on to UP and then NS I doubt that she did. Saw a article recently that she was retiring from NS. Interesting. So how often would Ms. Sanborn need to run a train to keep her engineer card? Seems like it would have to be enough times to have a check ride and an unannounced test as a minimum. I wonder what the average conductor thought when paired up with someone like that.
BaltACD In the present day, the only Senior Railroad Official that maintained their 'Engineer's Card' was Cindy Sanborn while she was with CSX. Of course once she moved on to UP and then NS I doubt that she did. Saw a article recently that she was retiring from NS.
Interesting. So how often would Ms. Sanborn need to run a train to keep her engineer card? Seems like it would have to be enough times to have a check ride and an unannounced test as a minimum. I wonder what the average conductor thought when paired up with someone like that.
My understanding it required a yearly 'check ride' over one of the territories she was qualified on. I could be wrong.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
BaltACDIn the present day, the only Senior Railroad Official that maintained their 'Engineer's Card' was Cindy Sanborn while she was with CSX. Of course once she moved on to UP and then NS I doubt that she did. Saw a article recently that she was retiring from NS.
wjstix BaltACD wjstix 2000 mi. in 19 hrs would be 105 MPH. It's fast but plausible. Track was in better shape back then; a lot of Amtrak trains take longer to make their run than their steam era counterparts did. I don't think the real Zephyr had the fuel capacity to run 2K miles non-stop; as well as the HOS law was in effect at the time limiting the engineer and engineer pilot to 16 working hours. But why let reality interrupt a good story. Well I agree reality didn't have too much to do with the story in general. Hoover Dam to Chicago would be about 1775 mi.; the real Zephyr's Denver to Chicago nonstop run was just over 1000 mi., so is stretching things a bit. IIRC the "Silver Streak" was driven all the way by the hero, who was something like the head of the railroad's engineering department, so there wasn't a standard crew. Not sure with someone in management running the train if the 16 hour rule would apply? More importantly, since the race to Chicago was to save the life of the son of the president of the railroad, I suspect the president wouldn't mind paying a fine for violating the work rules if it meant saving his son's life.
BaltACD wjstix 2000 mi. in 19 hrs would be 105 MPH. It's fast but plausible. Track was in better shape back then; a lot of Amtrak trains take longer to make their run than their steam era counterparts did. I don't think the real Zephyr had the fuel capacity to run 2K miles non-stop; as well as the HOS law was in effect at the time limiting the engineer and engineer pilot to 16 working hours. But why let reality interrupt a good story.
wjstix
2000 mi. in 19 hrs would be 105 MPH. It's fast but plausible. Track was in better shape back then; a lot of Amtrak trains take longer to make their run than their steam era counterparts did.
I don't think the real Zephyr had the fuel capacity to run 2K miles non-stop; as well as the HOS law was in effect at the time limiting the engineer and engineer pilot to 16 working hours. But why let reality interrupt a good story.
In the present day, the only Senior Railroad Official that maintained their 'Engineer's Card' was Cindy Sanborn while she was with CSX. Of course once she moved on to UP and then NS I doubt that she did. Saw a article recently that she was retiring from NS.
If my plate arrived with cottage cheese, it would leave with cottage cheese.
Mashed 'taters' would be a different story. When I was young, if we had mashed potatoes but no gravy, it was butter for a topping. We were a meat and potatoes family.
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Meatloaf and mashed potatoes = comfort food, especially at the roadside diner and on the Reading's Philly-NYC trains. Just add peas as the veggie, carefully placed in a line on the mashed potatoes preloaded on your knife. Did that etiquette come from The Stooges or Laurel and Hardy?
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rixflix aka Captain Video. Blessed be Jean Shepherd and all His works!!! Hooray for 1939, the all time movie year!!! I took that ride on the Reading but my Baby caught the Katy and left me a mule to ride.
How do you know it was cottage cheese and not mashed potatoes?
Did you notice the sleeping car in the movie "Elgin Manor" is still in service on the VIA Rail Canadian? Also in the dining car scene did you see what they were eating for lunch? A mound of cottage cheese, a slice of meat loaf and it looked like orange slices but could have been carrots. I wonder if those were actually on the CP Rail menu. I can't imagine eating cottage cheese with meat loaf......eck!!!
Perhaps more likely by Porky
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=MzwxL6305Q4&feature=emb_logo
Maybe it was inspired by Popeye?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1iZRX0RUEU
BaltACDAnd the copycat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Z18UELYs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Z18UELYs8
wjstix2000 mi. in 19 hrs would be 105 MPH. It's fast but plausible. Track was in better shape back then; a lot of Amtrak trains take longer to make their run than their steam era counterparts did.
And the copycat -
After the Dawn-To-Dusk run, the Zephyr made a tour around the US. My father grew up in Towanda, PA and the entire school went to the station to see and tour it. That must have been something!
As Bugs said: "nyaaaaaaaah... could be"
There ought to be a trope for this, 'gotta get the serum to Nome'.
Overmod 54light15 There's a Silver Streak movie from the 30s with the Zephyr? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LTbay8TZhM
54light15 There's a Silver Streak movie from the 30s with the Zephyr?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LTbay8TZhM
2000 miles in 19 hours???????
Well, you did get Chicago and the Hoover dam right, but the rest, no.
wjstix samfp1943 A 1970's 'remake' of a previous 'one'['30s or so?]..... A draw to 'rail-fans' with a somewhat techincal, but somewhat of a sense of humor, IMHO..... Except for the title, I don't think the 1930s "Silver Streak" has anything in common with the Wilder-Pryor one from the 70s. The old B&W movie is about a guy trying to get his idea for a new streamlined diesel train (played by the Burlington's new Zephyr) built and accepted by railroads. In the key scene, the railroad owner's son is injured working on Hoover Dam, and he has to be rushed to a hospital in (IIRC) Chicago. Only the Silver Streak can run without stopping all the way, so it's used as a last resort by the railroad to try to save the owner's son.
samfp1943 A 1970's 'remake' of a previous 'one'['30s or so?]..... A draw to 'rail-fans' with a somewhat techincal, but somewhat of a sense of humor, IMHO.....
Except for the title, I don't think the 1930s "Silver Streak" has anything in common with the Wilder-Pryor one from the 70s. The old B&W movie is about a guy trying to get his idea for a new streamlined diesel train (played by the Burlington's new Zephyr) built and accepted by railroads. In the key scene, the railroad owner's son is injured working on Hoover Dam, and he has to be rushed to a hospital in (IIRC) Chicago. Only the Silver Streak can run without stopping all the way, so it's used as a last resort by the railroad to try to save the owner's son.
Although I have this movie on DVD (or videocassette?) it's been a long time since I watched it. I forgot it gave the train a credit: "Burlington Zephyr as 'The Silver Streak'"!!
I believe some of the hurried race to Chicago at the end was actual footage of the famous Denver-Chicago 'nonstop' trip the Zephyr made in 1934.
Also, a key supporting role is played by Arthur Lake, who some of us older folks will recall as Dagwood in the "Blondie" series of movies.
chutton01that was based on a true story, eh?
The CSX run-away in Ohio several years back. Obviously "spruced up for the box office" a bit.
Since I was already familiar with the real world events the movie was based upon, I enjoyed watching it, despite the departures from reality.
Since I last posted, I have watched 'Runaway Train' (escaped prisoners on a freight train in Alaska - the power consist includes a Chekhov's F-unit) and 'Unstoppable' (with the train 2 wheeling (well, I guess 12 wheeling) on the curved trestle thru Staton with nothing derailing...that was based on a true story, eh?
54light15There's a Silver Streak movie from the 30s with the Zephyr?
wjstix In the key scene, the railroad owner's son is injured working on Hoover Dam, and he has to be rushed to a hospital in (IIRC) Chicago. Only the Silver Streak can run without stopping all the way, so it's used as a last resort by the railroad to try to save the owner's son.
In the key scene, the railroad owner's son is injured working on Hoover Dam, and he has to be rushed to a hospital in (IIRC) Chicago. Only the Silver Streak can run without stopping all the way, so it's used as a last resort by the railroad to try to save the owner's son.
Sounds like the plot for the latter half of "Danger Lights", where the protagonist has to be rushed to a hospital in Chicago from Miles City (though Miles City is not mentioned in the film). The ludicrous part of the dash is showing the train racing westward through Lombard. N.B. Danger Lights was filmed in 1930.
IIRC, the "iron lung" was also showcased in "The Silver Streak".
"Silver Streak" is the 70's movie. "The Silver Streak" is the 30's movie.
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