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UP Derailment at Santa Fe Jct.in KCMO

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Posted by adkrr64 on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:28 AM

Was the cause of the derailment ever determined?

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 8:40 AM

Autoracks getting removed today as well as the start of a $10M bridge overhaul.  

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:15 AM

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Unloading the cars out of the autoracks today

They're done with that part.  Interesting approach - can't say as I'd have thought of using a container to shuttle the autos from the car to the ground.

Sounds like trucks for the racks may be on site.

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:10 AM

Unloading the cars out of the autoracks today

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Posted by diningcar on Friday, September 18, 2020 11:35 AM

Google Earth views show a #24 or better crossover from the south to the north track which would be good for up to 50 MPH; which certainly was not happening. This suggests damage to the track or the lead locomotive was the cause.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, September 18, 2020 9:52 AM

Some drone footage would have been nice, but there's an airport nearby and this was right under one approach.

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, September 18, 2020 9:01 AM

Thanks Brian,

That make more sense that they were crossing over from the south to the north track and they went on the ground crossing over.

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Posted by blhanel on Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:13 PM

As a regular viewer of the SFJ cameras, I'd like to make some corrections and updates based on my knowledge of the area.

The highline bridge where the derailment took place runs more or less east/west, at least that's how it's been referred to in the chat.  The train that derailed was running westbound on the south track and (based on other watchers' ATCS observations) was lined to switch over to the north track on the crossover in question.  After watching the VRF video and looking at satellite views, it was very apparent to me that the lead engine dropped off the rails right at the switch.  I would venture to guess the diverging curved rail rolled out from under the lead engine, sending the train down on the ground over the top of the north rail of the south track, which is where the engines wound up.  The jack-knifing autoracks then took out some of the north track as well.

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:45 AM

1044 CDT first train over repaired tracks.

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:22 AM

Herzog just ran this over the repaired line:

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:59 AM

If you are using the road crossing that is visible on Camera #1 - you better have your head on a swivel for all the directions trains can be approaching that Crossbuck crossing.

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:52 AM

Ran a large stack train on the other main around 04:40 CDT. 

Haven't seen the Tamper since 06:00CDT

It was cool how they turned the ballest train on the lower deck.

 

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:34 AM

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I think one poster on the YT feed said something about tamping going on.

Tamping started about 11:40 PM Wednesday and is moving along at the normal pace in a southerly direction. I suspect that traffic will be able to move in a couple of hours. I also suspect the crossover is temporarily gone.

EDIT: 12:36 AM, two BNSF engines and a string of 3-bay hoppers moving south behind the tamper. Correction, tamper is on the far track and BNSF on near track and creeping by the tamper now.

EDIT: It appears that the train is ballast cars, as I note the solar panels on the near side. Can't make out if they are dumping anything at this point.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:23 AM

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Looks like the Atlas snap track is pretty much in place at 9 PM, will have to see when traffic resumes, as MOW trucks still at the site. What a job those guys did!

I'm guessing there will be traffic over the line by daylight.  I think one poster on the YT feed said something about tamping going on.

It is a testament - something like that would be bad enough on the ground.  Twenty plus feet in the air adds a twist, for sure.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 10:20 PM

What happens when crane operations are not coordinated - 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR4LVWlO6U8

 

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:02 PM

Looks like the Atlas snap track is pretty much in place at 9 PM, will have to see when traffic resumes, as MOW trucks still at the site. What a job those guys did!

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:55 PM

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Track hoes

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:39 PM

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Does anyone have any idea of the cost to rent those 3 cranes from Wilkerson?

Suspect the wreck clearance contractors will get 6 figures or more for their manpower and services.

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Posted by Goodtiming on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:17 PM

Does anyone have any idea of the cost to rent those 3 cranes from Wilkerson?

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:55 AM

Track hoes have cleared the old track and are getting the old ballast out of the way.  

Track panels are being dropped in place at this time.  There is debate on the YT chat as to whether the crossover will be replaced at this time.

 

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Posted by ClassA on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 10:37 AM

I'd say it's fortunate it happened where it happened. Any further along and they are working inside the truss over the river. Where they are now, they have ample railroad owned property already leveled and graveled to set their cranes. 

I am really curious to learn what caused it. They were on the ground well before the cross over. At one point you can see something like a rail shoved up ahead of the lead unit, but that could be rail or ties from the track breaking as the locomotives plowed it up. 

Hair raising ride for sure for that crew. Glad it wasn't worse.

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:19 AM

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Watching this process; I've been impressed by the skill and degree of coordination between the crane operators.  

Curt

If crane operators are less than highly skilled - people die or get seriously maimed.

Looks as if both engines and the 1st car are now on the rail and coupled awaiting movement off the bridge in one direction or the other.

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Posted by Juniata Man on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:56 AM

Watching this process; I've been impressed by the skill and degree of coordination between the crane operators.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:35 AM

0730 CT - Both engines back on the rails.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 4:33 AM

By 4:30 am, it looks like the lead engine is back on rails and moved to the north a bit, two auto racks lifted off the bridge to the ground, another back on rails and moved south out of the picture. I'd say they're making good progress in a difficult situation.

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 2:41 AM

How one of these cranes is prepared for lifting:

https://youtu.be/VXmbjzScw1o

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:53 PM

There is a 500 Ton crane waiting for them to get the pad ready by the locomotives.

https://www.wilkersoncranerental.com/equipment/all-terrain-mobile-truck-cranes/liebherr-ltm-1400-71/

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:48 PM

Heavy lift cranes in the process of moving the derailed racks from the bridge to the ground.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:12 PM

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Bet the crew thought they might be going over the side while it was happening. Scary.

Train moved approximately 6 rack lenghts after the first sounds of the derailment can be heard - that is approximately 550 feet.

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