divebardave Would they have the proper mixes? Or howabout a Tom Collins? I am going to need some X-mass cheer coming out of Toledo OH.
Would they have the proper mixes? Or howabout a Tom Collins? I am going to need some X-mass cheer coming out of Toledo OH.
Over the years I've done my fair share of drinking in bars that were considered dives, many of them near railroad tracks, but never on them. I'll be honest and admit that it never occured to me to create a screen name just to celebrate those establishments. Very clever, my hat is off to you.
People's Park, when it was first built, was quite beautiful. There were pathways and plantings among the existing trees, kept up by volunteers. One night I walked through, and it was lit by candlelight.
Ed
7j43k Erik_Mag We both missed the brouhaha over People's Park. I certainly didn't miss it--an educational experience. Free Speech Movement, too.
Erik_Mag We both missed the brouhaha over People's Park.
We both missed the brouhaha over People's Park.
I certainly didn't miss it--an educational experience. Free Speech Movement, too.
I wasn't involved, of course, although there is someone who's a dead ringer for the way I looked as a freshman in that SF Chronicle headline shot from the May article on the 50th Anniversary.
There was never any real doubt that the razing was, exactly as indicated, a way to get rid of some of the 'dissident' element. If there was any question, the fencing of the actual 'park' ... followed by decades and decades of no improvement, even for the interim "sports fields" in the original excuse ... would have dispelled it.
The organized California 'establishment' response is a little nutshell version of everything that was wrong with California in that era, and much of what was wrong with America as a whole. By contrast, what went on at Princeton in the '70s (largely with the issue of South African divestment) was tame ... aside from the surveillance of 'suspect' students.
Our little 'boondoggle' was the mandatory installation of a very complete and very sensitive smoke-detection system in all the school buildings and dorms. This worked so well that the advance warning when Whig Hall caught fire was the proctors observing the building wreathed in flames. But it certainly worked well, and the proctor response was often within a fraction of a minute, when ... say ... someone was illegally cooking. Or smoking a cigarette. Or heaven forbid, wacky tobaccy.
Or for that matter using a plant mister to see what kind of detection it was using. I confess it was amusing to watch the clean-cut roommate who did it try to explain why he shouldn't be hustled off for vandalism...
7j43k Erik_Mag 7j43k UC Berkeley, 1967: The Dorm: Which dorm? I was in Griffiths Hall (unit 2) F'72 and Bowles Hall W'73 to SP'76. Griffiths, also. From Fall '64 to about 1968, with a year off for bad behavior. Room 506, since you ask. Ed
Erik_Mag 7j43k UC Berkeley, 1967: The Dorm: Which dorm? I was in Griffiths Hall (unit 2) F'72 and Bowles Hall W'73 to SP'76.
UC Berkeley, 1967: The Dorm:
UC Berkeley, 1967:
The Dorm:
Which dorm? I was in Griffiths Hall (unit 2) F'72 and Bowles Hall W'73 to SP'76.
Griffiths, also. From Fall '64 to about 1968, with a year off for bad behavior.
Room 506, since you ask.
Cool, I was in 609 in my one quarter stint there. 5th and 7th floors were the women's floors in the 72-73 school year. One vivid memory was hearing "City of New Orleans" while hanging out in the lounge below the dining area. We both missed the brouhaha over People's Park.
A few years ago I was talking with a mfr's rep and it turned out he was in Cunningham the same quarter I was in Griffiths. He moved into an apartment on Benenview(sp?) the next quarter, with a male gard student and a female freshman living next door (the grad student was the woman's T.A.). The rep then transferred to USC for the 73-74 academic year and halfway through got a visit from the FBI asking him about his former neighbors.
7j43k UC Berkeley, 1967: The Dorm:
I find SPicy Hot V-8 works perfectly well on its own. Pour vodka, pour V-8, consume. No work. When I make cocktail sauce for shrimp, I will add the Lea and Perrins and some sriracha to my ketchup and horseradish.
Murphy Siding charlie hebdo Erik spotted it first or at least mentioned it in a post yesterday. I agreed. OhioRiver, blah blah. He's baaaack!! I'll send Erik the traveling trophy.
charlie hebdo Erik spotted it first or at least mentioned it in a post yesterday. I agreed. OhioRiver, blah blah. He's baaaack!!
Erik spotted it first or at least mentioned it in a post yesterday. I agreed. OhioRiver, blah blah. He's baaaack!!
I'll send Erik the traveling trophy.
Hope you're no planning to send Raymond my way... I'm guessing that one of his earlier handles was "Terminal Towers", with some -um- provocative threads.
FWIW, my mom was from Ohio, so I tend to notice the OH references.
Overmod charlie hebdo Who was the guy who took him "sailing"up the (Delaware?) River from Philly, bar-hopping all along the way? User 'gardendance' (one of the Boylans) who swore he'd never let Raymond back on the boat again afterward. Of course, we did warn him... As I recall, the issue was not 'bar-hopping' but its reverse: when you're invited aboard a boat, you're expected to bring more than your fair share of the liquid refreshments. That did NOT take place.
charlie hebdo Who was the guy who took him "sailing"up the (Delaware?) River from Philly, bar-hopping all along the way?
User 'gardendance' (one of the Boylans) who swore he'd never let Raymond back on the boat again afterward. Of course, we did warn him...
As I recall, the issue was not 'bar-hopping' but its reverse: when you're invited aboard a boat, you're expected to bring more than your fair share of the liquid refreshments. That did NOT take place.
He wouldn't listen. Thanks for "the rest of the story."
charlie hebdoWho was the guy who took him "sailing"up the (Delaware?) River from Philly, bar-hopping all along the way?
Actually, in his last reincarnation, he was pretty entertaining. Who was the guy who took him "sailing"up the (Delaware?) River from Philly, bar-hopping all along the way?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Anyone else catching on that this is CandOforprogress3?
Is Black Velvet even whiskey? I got one mini at the corner store to put in my coffee today before getting on the bus.
Flintlock76I'll tell you what, it was a lot better than what we got in Glassboro State's dining halls in the 70's!
It worked differently at University of Wisconsin in the late 1980's early 1990's, yes they had a main dining hall for the dorm but here is the cool part they issued a meal card (similar to the Army but this one acted also like a Credit Card). You not only could use the meal card at the dining facility you could use it at ANY on campus food provider. So you had a larger choice in meal times and what food to eat. I believe the prices were subsidized for meal card holders and each semesters chargeable amount was like $2000 to $2500, you could buy supplimental beyond that or buy less lower than that but that was the recommended amount for Breakfest - Lunch and Dinner for a Semester. Most people ended the Semester with like a few hundred bucks left as credit. So end of Semester was a popular time to take others out for meals because the University would not refund any unused charges.
Heck I used the Army College Fund to pay for just about everything. So top of the line for meal card charge (heh-heh). Went for the Masters Degree Dorm room floors where you had to observe quiet hours (much better and less beat up dorm rooms than the underclass)......lucky to land one of those. Brand new books vs used (heh-heh). Spared no taxpayer expense (5 years Infantry, I deserved it!!!). Any additional tutoring charges (Army covered those as well). :)
7j43kUC Berkeley, 1967: The Dorm: I find a fly "entrapped and deceased" in my dessert. I deliver the evidence to the head nutritionist, Miss Fortune (yes, really). She looks up from her desk and says: "So?". I am so flummoxed, I leave. Wow. I know who I'd want running the CIA. Ed
I find a fly "entrapped and deceased" in my dessert. I deliver the evidence to the head nutritionist, Miss Fortune (yes, really). She looks up from her desk and says: "So?". I am so flummoxed, I leave.
Wow. I know who I'd want running the CIA.
They want you to have extra protein.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Flintlock76 I'll tell you what, it was a lot better than what we got in Glassboro State's dining halls in the 70's!
I'll tell you what, it was a lot better than what we got in Glassboro State's dining halls in the 70's!
PJS1Here is a link to some pictures of Amtrak's Sightseer lounge cars. It appears that some of them did not have tables on the upper level.
Yes, I suspect the ones with tables on the second level are rebuilds post year 2000. Never saw one until 2019. I rode LD heavily prior to 2000, took a 5-7 year break then Capitol Limited East, and eventually settled on Texas Eagle each Christmas back to Wisconsin. They rebuilt and rehabbed some of the diners recently as well the one on the Texas Eagle had new burgundy and black curtain pattern I never saw before. They serve the food faster this year than they did last year in the Diner......so procedures have changed. 40-45 min seatings now instead of 60 min. If your still in the Diner at 40 min the servers help you along by asking if your finished or want more. Usually enough queue for most people.
CMStPnP Deggesty As to tables in the Sightseer Lounges, they are found on the California Zephyr, the Empire Builder, and Coast Starlight, and were on the Capitol Limited. It seems to me that that wasthe standard arrangement for these cars. Actually, I suspect not, I rode both Empire Builder and California Zephyr (then the San Francisco Zephyr) back when the first batch of cars were new and second batch had not been built yet (early 1980's) both were full length serpentine couch seating back then with the bar tenders station at top of the stairs. So if they changed the layout it was either the second batch of cars (1990's) or after. Since I saw my first this year. My guess is the change took place post 2000. Since I have been riding LD trains approx 1-2 times yearly on average and not just the Texas Eagle.
Deggesty As to tables in the Sightseer Lounges, they are found on the California Zephyr, the Empire Builder, and Coast Starlight, and were on the Capitol Limited. It seems to me that that wasthe standard arrangement for these cars.
Actually, I suspect not, I rode both Empire Builder and California Zephyr (then the San Francisco Zephyr) back when the first batch of cars were new and second batch had not been built yet (early 1980's) both were full length serpentine couch seating back then with the bar tenders station at top of the stairs. So if they changed the layout it was either the second batch of cars (1990's) or after. Since I saw my first this year. My guess is the change took place post 2000. Since I have been riding LD trains approx 1-2 times yearly on average and not just the Texas Eagle.
Johnny
I'd have to say the food I got in Marine chow halls really wasn't all that bad. Really, it was basic cafeteria stuff, made to (for lack of a better term) lowest-common-denominator standards. How much do you season it? How little? Especially knowing that you can't please everyone.
Many years later I was servicing a copier in VCU's English department, which was right next to one of their dining halls, and in the same building. I don't know what they were serving that day but the stink was indescribable! After I'd finished I was taking to one of the profs and asked "HOW can you stand being next to that dining hall?" He rolled his eyes and said "Oh, you get used to it after a while. This is the third college I've taught at and the dining halls at all of them stank!"
CMStPnP Actually, I suspect not, I rode both Empire Builder and California Zephyr (then the San Francisco Zephyr) back when the first batch of cars were new and second batch had not been built yet (early 1980's) both were full length serpentine couch seating back then with the bar tenders station at top of the stairs. So if they changed the layout it was either the second batch of cars (1990's) or after. Since I saw my first this year. My guess is the change took place post 2000. Since I have been riding LD trains approx 1-2 times yearly on average and not just the Texas Eagle.
Here is a link to some pictures of Amtrak's Sightseer lounge cars. It appears that some of them did not have tables on the upper level.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Amtrak+Sightseer+lounge+car&sa=X&biw=1422&bih=642&sxsrf=ACYBGNQi9D6TNitc155z4EXSu6F3UGYxKA:1577304154651&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=iDasMZVl7sJeoM%253A%252CAxNZgtprZlvnoM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kT2ykm1GKzQXtacTafj1wMdSMkc4g&ved=2ahUKEwjA0Nzuy9HmAhWHXM0KHbylCrAQ9QEwBHoECAoQJA#imgrc=iDasMZVl7sJeoM:
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CMStPnPThe military or at least the Army does not season the food in a lot of cases
Not related to MREs, but one of our army cooks used to specialize in tasteless chili. We had to pour salt and pepper on it to give it some taste.
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Electroliner 1935Was the Union Pacific the ony railroad with full bottles used in the bars? All the other trains I rode on used the single service bottles.
I think it depends on the year. Long ago I posted a picture of a Tip-Tap Top Lounge from Milwaukee Road in 1934 that showed full bottles behind the bar. Someone else chimed in that they remembered the Milwaukee Road with mini-bottles later in years. I have no idea when mini-bottles where invented.
tree68When the military was creating MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat), they researched what the troops wanted for a condiment in some of the meals, thinking that ketchup would probably be suitable. Turns out they wanted Tobasco (or at least some sort of hot sauce). Turns out that Tobasco doesn't fare well in the packets usually used for ketchup and the like - the only solution was glass bottles. The bottles look just like their big brothers, but cute...
The military or at least the Army does not season the food in a lot of cases so the Tabasco brings out the natural flavor more and acts as a one stop seasoning method. That and the Latino's and other ethnic groups like the hot flavor. MRE's at least when I was in were also for the most part not seasoned. The folks that use Tabasco even put it on eggs in the morning.
DeggestyAs to tables in the Sightseer Lounges, they are found on the California Zephyr, the Empire Builder, and Coast Starlight, and were on the Capitol Limited. It seems to me that that wasthe standard arrangement for these cars.
About the only time I have a Bloody Mary is when we have company.
Even though I'm sure the recipes are all good, I really don't want to be doing a lot of measuring and mixing while I'm talking to family or friends.
I have found that ZingZang is a good Bloody Mary mix. Pour it in a glass, put in some vodka, and you have a very good Bloody Mary.
York1 John
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