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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, July 29, 2019 4:32 PM

My son used to sell boats.  He said a boat is a hole in the water that you shovel money into.

He also said the two happiest days in the life of a boat owner are the day he bought the boat and the day he sold it.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, July 29, 2019 4:42 PM

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Thanks, John.

Camden is not a bad place to be stuck. It’s beautiful, has great restaurants, and Wayfarer Marine is top-drawer.

They will start work on the engine tomorrow. Not sure what all will be needed, but it’s clear we will be spending a lot of money.

Sad

Oh well. Boats!! 

 

 

   You've got the right sailor's attitude.  You are in a beautiful place--relax and enjoy it.

   I'm not going to bring up the "hole in the water" line, but as for money and boats, though, a fellow sailor used to call the local marine supply store "that jewelry store."

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, July 29, 2019 5:01 PM

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He also said the two happiest days in the life of a boat owner are the day he bought the boat and the day he sold it.

   I've heard that many times, but I did not feel that way when I sold mine.  For many years after I quit sailing, I kept the boat, piddling around, doing some repairs and upkeep even though I knew I should sell it.  The boat was my friend (I never did think of it as "she"; it was always neutral in gender), and when I finally did sell it, I think it felt something like a divorce.   I visited the marina a couple of times afterward.   The first time the slip was empty (the new owner lived some distance away.), but the second time there was a boat in it named "So What?"   That kicked me out of my mood. 

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Posted by York1 on Monday, July 29, 2019 5:03 PM

Paul, I sailed several times on Lake Ponchartrain.  A friend had a 10 meter sailboat (I think I remember that's what he said, but it's been nearly 40 years ago).

He got me and several others to help in a Southern Yacht Club race, but I was never invited back to help again.  I was sick most of the race.

I always envied the sailboat owners who were in the lake watching the fireworks at Ponchartrain Beach amusement park.

I was in Covington two years ago seeing an elderly relative.  I could not believe how much the northshore had changed since we left in the early 90s.

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, July 29, 2019 5:47 PM

Hey Paul. I was born in New Orleans. I had an aunt, uncle, and lots of cousins in Covington. My Uncle’s name was Lee Eddy. He has daughters named Pat and Peggy and Nora, and a son named Lee.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, July 29, 2019 5:56 PM

   John, I had gathered from some of your posts that you were from this area, but didn't realize that you were a fellow sailor.   As for getting sick, it takes getting used to.   I usually feel a little queasy if I go below near the beginning of a trip, but heck, Horatio Hornblower used to get seasick.  I don't remember the sizes of the meter class boats, but I think 10-meter would be pretty big--40 or 45 feet?  I crewed quite a few times in races, round-the-buoys and offshore, and decided that racing sailors were a little crazy, but it was a great way to learn what a boat could do.

   I've lived in this area since 1974, and yes, it has really changed.  The refugees come from the big city in waves, the last big migration after Katrina.

   Well, back to trains.   (As if we were ever there.)

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, July 29, 2019 6:03 PM

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Hey Paul. I was born in New Orleans. I had an aunt, uncle, and lots of cousins in Covington. My Uncle’s name was Lee Eddy. He has daughters named Pat and Peggy and Nora, and a son named Lee.

 

   Well I'll be hornswoggled!   This is getting to be like a family reunion!

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, July 29, 2019 6:15 PM

Was it Dennis Conner who said racing was like standing in a cold shower setting $100 bills on fire as fast as you can?

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Posted by MMLDelete on Monday, July 29, 2019 6:29 PM

I LOVE sailing. If you don’t LOVE sailing/boating, sell that boat and stop the money hemorrhaging as soon as you can!

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, July 29, 2019 6:55 PM

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I LOVE sailing.

As do I.  I really miss keeping the sailfish (14') at my aunt's cottage so I could sail at will (conditions permitting).

My boat needs some work around the centerboard slot, or it would be out on one of the largest protected bays around on a regular basis.  Unfortunately, said work requires that I split the hull, and that's a lot of rivets to drill out...  It's not like I'm not busy enough already...

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Monday, July 29, 2019 7:06 PM

 I can give you the names of a couple more expensive hobbies that my husband has had in the past.  Saltwater fish keeping and PC Gaming.  I told him he can keep one or the other he kept the games.  When your spending more to feed a tank than your household some weeks it gets to be a problem.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, July 29, 2019 7:14 PM

Shadow the Cats owner
 I can give you the names of a couple more expensive hobbies that my husband has had in the past. 

Hah!  Try amateur radio...

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, July 29, 2019 7:24 PM

tree68
 
Shadow the Cats owner
 I can give you the names of a couple more expensive hobbies that my husband has had in the past.  

Hah!  Try amateur radio...

Depending upon the class you want to participate in - automobile racing performs a pretty good disappearing act with money.  The old saying - Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go!  I can only afford to go half fast.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, July 29, 2019 9:31 PM

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Depending upon the class you want to participate in - automobile racing performs a pretty good disappearing act with money. 

I have some friends who race DIRT.  They're pretty grass roots organizations, but a failed tire is still a failed tire and might mean no ice cream for kiddos today...

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Posted by MMLDelete on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:46 AM

BaltACD

 

 
tree68
 
Shadow the Cats owner
 I can give you the names of a couple more expensive hobbies that my husband has had in the past.  

Hah!  Try amateur radio...

 

Depending upon the class you want to participate in - automobile racing performs a pretty good disappearing act with money.  The old saying - Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go!  I can only afford to go half fast.

 

I’m a huge auto racing fan, IndyCar and F1 primarily. The expressions I’ve heard are:

There’s no substitute for cubic dollars.

Wanna make a million bucks in racing? Start with a billion.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:31 PM

   Lithonia, any news on your motor yet?  I've been waiting with baited breath (whatever that means).

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:41 PM

Jeez, has this thread taken on a life of it's own or what?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:57 PM

   Maybe we can catch up with NDG's String Lining thread.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:42 PM

Paul of Covington

   Lithonia, any news on your motor yet?  I've been waiting with baited breath (whatever that means).

Actually, it's "bated breath," and simply means you are holding your breath...

OTOH, "baited breath" could have some interesting meanings...

I'm curious about the outcome on the motor, too...

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:00 PM

Paul of Covington

   Lithonia, any news on your motor yet?  I've been waiting with baited breath (whatever that means).

 
Hey Paul, thanks for asking.
 
Things are going very well, actually. Looks like we will be on our way Friday. The company we are dealing with, Lyman Morse, is top-drawer, and everyone here is friendly, helpful and professional. I have never dealt with people like this in the marine biz before. https://www.lymanmorse.com/
 
We are going to leave here I’m guessing $1500-$2000 lighter, unfortunately, but the reality is that we have had a total blast here in Camden! The very-upscale classic sailing yacht circuit is racing here now, and you would not BELIEVE the boats we are sharing dock space with. It’s a total trip. When I get home I’ll post some pix, and link you guys; I don’t have the password for my photo-share thing with me.
 
We have really dodged a bullet. This situation with the engine could be much worse. (The Pacific Seacraft 37 rafted to us now has a serious, serious boatload of woes.) And our incident when entering the harbor could have gotten ugly but didn’t. So we are grateful. And if you have to break down in a boat, Camden ME is the place to do it.
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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:07 PM

tree68

 

 
Paul of Covington

   Lithonia, any news on your motor yet?  I've been waiting with baited breath (whatever that means).

 

Actually, it's "bated breath," and simply means you are holding your breath...

OTOH, "baited breath" could have some interesting meanings...

I'm curious about the outcome on the motor, too...

 

"Baited breath" is what a cat uses to entice mice to come of their holes; the cat eats cheese and then breathes out by the mouse hole. I thought everybody knew that.Smile

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:08 PM

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We are going to leave here I’m guessing $1500-$2000 lighter, unfortunately, but the reality is that we have had a total blast here in Camden! The very-upscale classic sailing yacht circuit is racing here now, and you would not BELIEVE the boats we are sharing dock space with. It’s a total trip. When I get home I’ll post some pix, and link you guys; I don’t have the password for my photo-share thing with me.

Well, you could be taking your Bugatti for a oil change. Everything about it is expensive, right down to the oil change, which can ring you up a staggering $21,000. If you need some explaining on why a Bugatti Veyron oil change costs as much as a brand-new Honda Civic, then you're not alone.Jul 19, 2018

Watch How The $21,000, 27-Hour Oil Change Is Done On A Bugatti ...

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:09 PM

BaltACD

Well, you could be taking your Bugatti for a oil change. Everything about it is expensive, right down to the oil change, which can ring you up a staggering $21,000. If you need some explaining on why a Bugatti Veyron oil change costs as much as a brand-new Honda Civic, then you're not alone.Jul 19, 2018

Watch How The $21,000, 27-Hour Oil Change Is Done On A Bugatti ...

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/watch-how-the-21-000-27-hour-oil-change-is-done-on-a-bugatti-veyron-ar181881.html

 

Holy crow!

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:12 PM

Deggesty

 

 
tree68

 

 
Paul of Covington

   Lithonia, any news on your motor yet?  I've been waiting with baited breath (whatever that means).

 

Actually, it's "bated breath," and simply means you are holding your breath...

OTOH, "baited breath" could have some interesting meanings...

I'm curious about the outcome on the motor, too...

 

 

 

"Baited breath" is what a cat uses to entice mice to come of their holes; the cat eats cheese and then breathes out by the mouse hole. I thought everybody knew that.Smile

 

 

Naaah. It’s what people have if they eat pogies. Or worms.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:56 PM

Re:Bugatti -- just like a T1 as fussy and as expensive. 

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Posted by MMLDelete on Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:16 AM

The poor guy rafted up to us just found out that his engine (and therefore his boat) is done for the season. He and his wife were supposed to leave on a month-long cruise to Nova Scotia today. Sad.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:25 AM

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The poor guy rafted up to us just found out that his engine (and therefore his boat) is done for the season. He and his wife were supposed to leave on a month-long cruise to Nova Scotia today. Sad.

Thought Sailers sailed?

Reminds me of 'bikers' going to Bike Week in Daytona - their bikes on trailers behind their motorhomes.  Real BIKERS have bugs on their teeth (or at least Love Bugs splattered all over their helmet's visor).

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Posted by MMLDelete on Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:42 AM

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The poor guy rafted up to us just found out that his engine (and therefore his boat) is done for the season. He and his wife were supposed to leave on a month-long cruise to Nova Scotia today. Sad.

 

Thought Sailers sailed?

 

 

Oh, some purists don’t use engines, but most people want to be able to transit on calm days. And maneuver better in tight harbors, etc.

Also, Nova Scotia has a 18-20 ft. tidal range. The currents can be fierce. Very few people would go there sans engine. I got into an eddy up there once that spun the boat 30 degrees in the blink of an eye.

I try to be safe. W have nothing to prove.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:49 AM

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BaltACD 
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The poor guy rafted up to us just found out that his engine (and therefore his boat) is done for the season. He and his wife were supposed to leave on a month-long cruise to Nova Scotia today. Sad. 

Thought Sailers sailed? 

Oh, some purists don’t use engines, but most people want to be able to transit on calm days. And maneuver better in tight harbors, etc.

Also, Nova Scotia has a 18-20 ft. tidal range. The currents can be fierce. Very few people would go there sans engine. I got into an eddy up there once that spun the boat 30 degrees in the blink of an eye.

I try to be safe. W have nothing to prove.

Hope you know, I was just yanking your chain!Big Smile

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Posted by MMLDelete on Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:56 AM

BaltACD

 

 
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BaltACD 
Lithonia Operator
The poor guy rafted up to us just found out that his engine (and therefore his boat) is done for the season. He and his wife were supposed to leave on a month-long cruise to Nova Scotia today. Sad. 

Thought Sailers sailed? 

Oh, some purists don’t use engines, but most people want to be able to transit on calm days. And maneuver better in tight harbors, etc.

Also, Nova Scotia has a 18-20 ft. tidal range. The currents can be fierce. Very few people would go there sans engine. I got into an eddy up there once that spun the boat 30 degrees in the blink of an eye.

I try to be safe. W have nothing to prove.

 

Hope you know, I was just yanking your chain!Big Smile

 

I thought maybe yes, maybe no. Anyway, no problem, man. Zero.

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