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Posted by rrnut282 on Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:02 AM

Shadow the Cats owner

....  Amazon is also thinking about starting their own air freight division to get away from Fed Ex and UPS.  That will go over like a box of rocks in that industry.  

 

They already have bought a fleet of planes (used 767s a small wide-body) and had them converted from passenger to freighter.  

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:11 AM

How many?   Where based?   Who maintains?

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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, March 19, 2018 9:35 AM

They have 20 and are looking to add another 20 over several years.  They appear to be dry leased from a couple of different companies that have convoluted ownerships.  There is one currently in TLV undergoing conversion. 

I borrowed this fleet summation from Airlliners.net.  If you want to read more detail head to http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1385587

I started a bit of an outline to clear it up for me and I'm putting what I came up with here for others:

Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings

  • Titan - Leasing subsidiary of Atlas
    • 20 - 767-300, leased for by Amazon 10 years. All purchased as passenger airliners.
      • Conversion Location:
        • 12 converted IAI/Bedek in TLV
        • 6 converted into BCF at QPF 
        • 2 converted into BCF at TPE
      • Delivery Status:
        • 12 are converted and consistently flown for Amazon by Atlas.
        • 1 is converted, but not yet consitently flown for Amazon by Atlas.
        • 7 are in the process of being converted and will be flown for Amazon by Atlas.
    • Andromeda and other single purpose entities, hold titles to the aircraft leased by Amazon through Titan.
  • Atlas Air
    • Pilots represented by Teamsters 1224
    • 12 - 767-300 are currently being flown for Amazon.



Air Transport Services Group (ATSG)

  • Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) - Leasing arm of ATSG
    • 12 - 767-200, leased by Amazon for 5 years.
      • Already freighters when leased by Amazon.
    • 8 - 767-300, leased by Amazon for 7 years.
      • Purchased as passenger airplanes, converted IAI/Bedek in TLV.
    • Aircraft are titled to CAM
  • ABX Air
    • Pilots represented by Teamsters 1224
    • Flies 6 - 767-200
  • Air Transport International (ATI)
    • Pilots represented by ALPA
    • Flies 8 - 767-300
    • Flies 6 - 767-200
Now to get back to trains before the forum police come here, I havn't seen an Amazon trailer go by my house on an NS intermodal train,.  
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Posted by Bruce Kelly on Monday, March 19, 2018 1:49 PM

Saw four or five of the blue ones on BNSF's Z-SSECHC (South Seattle-Chicago) at Naples, Idaho, on 3/11.

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Posted by csxns on Monday, March 19, 2018 3:34 PM

rrnut282
I havn't seen an Amazon trailer go by my house on an NS intermodal train,.

Have seen several JB Hunt intermodals from the NS go to the Amazon warehouse in Charlotte NC.

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Posted by NittanyLion on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:11 PM

I haven't seen one going through DC on CSX, but boy are they all over 70, 270, the Beltway, and 95.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:23 PM

I should have said, "yet."  This time of the year, all but 2 of the intermodal trains go by in darkness.  

csxns

 

 
rrnut282
I havn't seen an Amazon trailer go by my house on an NS intermodal train,.

 

Have seen several JB Hunt intermodals from the NS go to the Amazon warehouse in Charlotte NC.

 

 

Mike (2-8-2)

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