AREMA Manual Ch. 1 Part 5 for openers, the ASCE Pipeline Section manual, NUCA and multiple other places.
-There is a persistant claim/ story out there which says that an outdated and very dangerous wet-bore was done. A couple of industry folks I know say that appears not to be the case based on the aerials of the sending and receiving pit. The other persistent story out there is construction happened before method was approved or construction was permitted on CN property ("build it first, ask for forgiveness later' routine that drives railroaders nuts) All the more reason to put out the CN/FRA reports as soon as confirmed.
MC,
Where can one find information regarding proper boring techniques? A few years ago one was bored under CN's Holly Sub without incident.
Norm
Still watching the pig feathers fly over the gas company major oops at Plainfield IL - I sincerely hope CN-IC makes an example out of these reckless clowns:
http://www.theherald-news.com/lists/2017/09/29/8265550caefc4d529fe0fad1c4764c25/index.xml
CN shut them down for good reason, and apparently all they are concerned about is a timeline to put a new pipeline in service, the heck with everybody else they stepped-on.
Hope FRA or NTSB releases the findings supplied by CN-IC plus their own.
zugmann tree68 Would have been nice if we didn't have to deal with some track maintenance which called for seven miles of 10 MPH running. You think road construction is bad... Watching paint dry would be a fitting analogy. We have an industrial track that is about 15 miles long. 15 miles of 10mph. On 90# jointed rail. I only got to run it a few times, but it can be mind numbing. Almost ocmpares to the 15 mile reverse move one of our other jobs make. If you think going slow forward is bad...
tree68 Would have been nice if we didn't have to deal with some track maintenance which called for seven miles of 10 MPH running. You think road construction is bad... Watching paint dry would be a fitting analogy.
We have an industrial track that is about 15 miles long. 15 miles of 10mph. On 90# jointed rail. I only got to run it a few times, but it can be mind numbing.
Almost ocmpares to the 15 mile reverse move one of our other jobs make. If you think going slow forward is bad...
That track, with almost the rest of the AT&N, is long gone.
Johnny
The Sealston-Jessup trash train making a round trip between Sealston, VA and Jessup, MD daily except Sunday has 10 miles of 10 MPH track to negotiate both ways between Sealston and Dahlgren Jct (Fredericksburg) on each round trip.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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Well, there - two days on the railroad, running our longest trips on Saturday and Sunday. Would have been nice if we didn't have to deal with some track maintenance which called for seven miles of 10 MPH running. You think road construction is bad...
Watching paint dry would be a fitting analogy.
Had a little trouble with leaves on the rails Saturday, but Sunday was a good run.
Glad I'm not running tomorrow - on my way home I drove through a squall with heavy rain and high winds - both guaranteed to remove what fall foiliage may have remained from the trees. And carefully deposit it directly on the tracks...
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
mudchicken BaltACD For anyone that is interested in the kind of racing I participate in the link is to our class's Championship race at Indianpolis Motor Speedway on October 1. https://www.scca.com/videos/2033633 Practicing for dealing with I-465 afterwards?
BaltACD For anyone that is interested in the kind of racing I participate in the link is to our class's Championship race at Indianpolis Motor Speedway on October 1. https://www.scca.com/videos/2033633
For anyone that is interested in the kind of racing I participate in the link is to our class's Championship race at Indianpolis Motor Speedway on October 1.
https://www.scca.com/videos/2033633
Practicing for dealing with I-465 afterwards?
Stayed in Fishers for the event, had to deal with I465 and I69 both ways. Once one figures out which lanes move and which lanes don't it's not that bad...doesn't compare to either the Baltimore or Washington Beltways at rush hour.
afternoon
Errands ran.Watched Csx for a bit.Saw a ballast train at work.Dispatcher was talking if they should dump from the front or back cars first.The train had 5 units on it.Also helped a grandpa explain a train to grandaughter.They were out for a bike ride on their road.She liked it when a track inspector passed the train too.Matt is going to get cleaned up for a party tonight.
stay safe
joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
evening
Ns had 2 westbounds and 1 eastbound as I left work.
Errands and chores done for tonight.More tomorrow.Might see if anything is running on Csx.Going to be giving hugs this weekend too.Matt has a party to go to tomorrow night.
Not only remember the BLUE LIGHT, but was a dept. asst. mgr. and setup BLUE LIGHT specials. Man, what a junk job that was. Probably why I got fired for telling the store mgr. what I thought of him. Of course I used only proper language when, well never mind, I lasted 3 months.
tree68Anyone recall what the K in K-Mart stands for?
Kresge's. I remember, because there was one Kresge's left at the Chinook Mall in Calgary long after there were K-Marts, for corporate reasons I heard.
Bruce
So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.
"A Train is a Place Going Somewhere" CP Rail Public Timetable
"O. S. Irricana"
. . . __ . ______
Mookieinteresting who actually knows which one has a blue light special.
Heck, I can even remember when they announced one and had a flashing light set up to help you find it!
Anyone recall what the K in K-Mart stands for?
(Ours just closed, by the way.)
Murphy SidingAre you sure you don't have your *marts* crossed up?
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
blue streak 1 Unknown here is whether any agency in the State of Georgia has to approve crossing improvements ?
Unknown here is whether any agency in the State of Georgia has to approve crossing improvements ?
Georgia Public Service Commission (started as the Georgia RR Commission in 1879) turned it over to GaDOT circa 2002. If they are smart, they will put the clearance regulations they dropped back (Iowa learned the hard way)....Rubber-tired bubba statement applies in this state
Mookie JoeKoh Very impatient driver behind me really needed to get to WalMart Blue Light Special, maybe?
JoeKoh Very impatient driver behind me really needed to get to WalMart
Blue Light Special, maybe?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Then they needed to go to K-Mart.
JoeKohVery impatient driver behind me really needed to get to WalMart
Just wondering when NS will get the "GO" to do the crossing at work on Barre road.Ns had some cars uptown.Ran errands.Very impatient driver behind me really needed to get to WalMart.The phone is starting to ring at work.Going to be busy.Need to check Matt's homework.
CSSH pretty much got it and it is the fact that it is a public road seals the deal. PUCO puts out a decision which sets out who owns, operates and maintains exactly what at any public grade crossing. PUCO or whatever the agency is in the state you are in (like ICC in Illinois) has ombudsman/ public law judge authority in that particular state. Once the crossing is built, it stays that way in terms of width, angle of crossing, number of tracks, circuitry, etc.; move anything and it's a "mother may I?" petition to the PUCO or whoever. Keeps the local rubber tired bubbas in check, keeps the local political agencies in check (they can't create a public road from a private one - especially for development) and keeps the railroads in check. PUCO is on its own side in a dispute as an ombudsman.
I do get concerned when an agency like PUCO or ICC gets rolled into a state DOT by legislature in a consolidation move. (Rubber tired bubba inbreeding becomes a much more serious issue on the objectivity of the agency ... most DOTs can't railroad, period.)
The last paragraph in the article should answer your question. Since these are grade crossings over public highways, public safety issues are involved.
We know the RRs complain about over regulation and unnecessary regulations . Why in the word does a state have to approve improvements to crossings that wil be paid just with NS funds ? This will probably get MC's road bubbas jobs ?
http://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/news/Ohio-panel-OKs-Norfolk-Southern-grade-crossing-projects--53018
I want to thank everyone for their condolences.
Mom had been in poor health for a few years now and a series of mini-strokes starting on Thursday morning led to her passing Saturday afternoon. She was 87.
Just to correct what Miningmaan mentioned, she was born south of Sheerness in the Duchess area. The farmhouse still stands, in a different location. She lived without power or running water until she had to leave to continue on to High School in Brooks, due to a lack of students in her area. That served her well to be a Station Agent's wife; as Hatton, SK had coal heat, no electric service, and no running water. Irricana, AB, did have electric service. The only house my parents ever owned was in Calgary, after Dad became a Dispatcher. She lived there until 2013.
The arrangments for a service and whatnot are proceeding, so I wanted to take this moment once again to thank everyone.
Rain here in Nw Ohio.Ns was clear.Sister and niece went through family tree.What really helped was Aunt and Great Aunt had worked on it before.Going to see if the teams can play ball or Mother Nature wins again today.
Joe
tree68 I'm fortunate that there are a number of pictures, some with those appearing in them written on the back, so while it will take some cross referencing, I can figure out many of the major players. It'll be interesting. There is a lesson there, though - you may think you'll remember everyone in the picture, but odds are your grandchildren won't have a clue.
I'm fortunate that there are a number of pictures, some with those appearing in them written on the back, so while it will take some cross referencing, I can figure out many of the major players.
It'll be interesting.
There is a lesson there, though - you may think you'll remember everyone in the picture, but odds are your grandchildren won't have a clue.
Amazing some of the subjects that can show up when going through old phots...some in albums, but mostly in boxes...found a photo of my dad's old ship on a official web site [www.navesource,org] tied up at Corsica, after landing in Sicily (Jul43)...and another of him standing in front of the statue of Tecumseh at Annapolis in Spring of 1942. Dad was in the ist Class of '90 Day Wonders'. I cannot imagine how many times those photos have been moved in the interveaning years...Too many! Not to mention the old photos that have been'lost'.
Larry, your statement is so true!
The problem with old family photographs is that faces can be familiar but you're not quite sure and nobody else is, either. I remember when I was about 11 or 12 seeing Dad's photo album from prior to WW2. The names are often familiar but the faces other than Dad and his sisters are not.
The up side of all this is that some historic gems can turn up. Dad's album also included some pictures (taken on the sly) of the first tank (an M-4, I believe) built at Pressed Steel Car Co. in Hegewisch in 1941 in the months prior to Pearl Harbor.
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