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News Wire: G&W partners on Alabama-Mexico car ferry service

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:39 AM

DARIEN, Conn. —Genesee & Wyoming Inc. and SEACOR Holdings Inc. today announced the formation of a 50-50 joint venture to own and operate CG Railway, LLC, a subsidiary of SEACOR recently acquired through its acquisition of International Ship...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/09/05-gw-ferry-service

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Posted by ROBERT WILLISON on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:58 AM

Wow, quite a ship!!! The service makes sense too.

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Posted by Gramp on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:35 PM

A double-deck railferry?!  I wonder how long it takes to load or unload it?

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:47 PM

115 cars - is that 40 footers or 89 footers!

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:34 PM

It's a RO-RO, so not all that long, two, maybe three hours.

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Posted by Miningman on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:49 PM

"We don't need a bigger boat!"

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:24 PM

To load a double decker ferry with 8 tracks, wouldn't you need 16 leads on 2 levels? How would that work? The photo of the ship is a little unclear.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, September 7, 2017 11:02 PM

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To load a double decker ferry with 8 tracks, wouldn't you need 16 leads on 2 levels? How would that work? The photo of the ship is a little unclear.

I count 50-ish cars on the top deck - I'd hazard a guess that there's a second level.

As for how they load them, I don't have a clue, either.

Here's an end view of one of the ferries from http://www.bennettoffshore.com/

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Posted by kgbw49 on Thursday, September 7, 2017 11:09 PM

They have an articulating ramp that allows loading on both decks.

http://www.bennettoffshore.com/innovations.html#railcar

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Posted by tdmidget on Friday, September 8, 2017 12:17 AM

edblysard

It's a RO-RO, so not all that long, two, maybe three hours.

 

Has there ever been any other kind of car ferry? If so, would it be considered a "ferry"?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, September 8, 2017 6:58 AM

I'm looking at the stern of the carferry and can't figure out where the seagate is located.  On the Lake Michigan boats it was raised like a drawbridge for loading and unloading and lowered across the tracks for sailing.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 8, 2017 10:12 AM

The ferries sail with an open stern. From pictures I would guess the deck is more then 10 ft above water line.
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Posted by tdmidget on Friday, September 8, 2017 2:20 PM

I noticed the contruction of the ships to be somewhat odd so I did a little research. They were built by Mitsubishi in 1982 as heavy lift ships, the Dan Lifter and Dan Mover. In 1985 the names were changed to Super Servant 5 and 6. In 1995 they were converted to single level car ferries. In the past 2 years they were made 2 levels.

They are owned by a new Orleans company and sail under Singapore registry with Ukrainian officers.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Friday, September 8, 2017 9:03 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I'm looking at the stern of the carferry and can't figure out where the seagate is located.  On the Lake Michigan boats it was raised like a drawbridge for loading and unloading and lowered across the tracks for sailing.

 

My guess would be that the car deck could take some wash-over, and that the rest of the ship is isolated from the effects.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:10 AM

Here is a video showing the loading process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y0JnpeCdoQ

The articulated ramp is the upper ramp, which can be lifted upwards like a drawbridge to provide head room on the lower deck for loading.

The ferry were designed as semi-submersible ship with open deck. Here is the Bali Sea as Super Servant 5: http://bureau-wijsmuller.nl/images/zwaar/Super%20Servant%205/031.jpg

And here as Dan Lifter: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/RFA_Sir_Tristram_%26_MV_Dan_Lifter_late_1982.JPG/1200px-RFA_Sir_Tristram_%26_MV_Dan_Lifter_late_1982.JPG

Some time in her live she was widened, most likely as Super Servant 5: https://img1.fleetmon.com/thumbnails/bali-sea_8106068_59356.940x1000.jpg

And the stern of Bali Sea: http://www.cgrailway.com/MediaDownLoads/Bali%20Sea%20Stern.JPG

Water on the deck is not a problem as long as there a means to get it off. It is not an uncommon sight on deep sea tugs: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/a9/5c/4aa95c1d72396d014811433a18958fb6--ship-wreck-tug-boats.jpg

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, September 9, 2017 9:23 PM

I wonder if seawater washing up on deck would invade roller baring seals, brake equipment, or hopper outlets.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, September 9, 2017 9:41 PM

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I wonder if seawater washing up on deck would invade roller baring seals, brake equipment, or hopper outlets.

Washing up and away should be no big deal.  It is when the cars sit in water above the axle level for a period of time that the issues start mounting.

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Posted by tdmidget on Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:11 PM

Wet decks are de riguer on ocean going vessels. One would love to sail calm seas but the choice is Mother Natures' and she is pretty harsh. It is no harder to keep out salt water than fresh and the voyages  are only 2 days.

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