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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, May 26, 2017 5:06 PM

I don't post a lot on this particular thread, but we started a new way to get our PPE (personal protective equipment) items.  Our service unit is the pilot project for this.  We used to get our items (gloves, batteries, reflective vests, etc) through a vending machine.  You put in your user ID and password and get the item you needed.  Each individual item meant putting in the ID/password each time.

To save money, they decided to have us order direct from the vendor who supplies the machine every three months.  You figure what you need and send in your request via computer and it's sent to your house.  We were told guys on the CP use it and like it.  Lately, I only used the machine for the occasional ear plug (I used the reusable type), clorox wipe packet (to wipe down the control stand) and the required safety vest.  I stopped using their gloves and started providing my own.  Using the new system, I placed my first order.  My first order was $45.00.  The only problem is the new direct system requires a minimum order of $200.00.  So I doubled up on a few items and ordered things I wouldn't have other wise but could use, like 12 pair of gloves. (each employee is allowed 12 pair for 3 months)  So I'm back to using their gloves again and 12 pair should last me for quite a while.  Others, when being talked through the process were told to max out their first order.  Some guys had orders of $700 to $800 dollars.

Some items are allowed every three months, some every 6 months, some like flashlights or lanterns once a year.  Trainmen who use the lanterns that take a 6 volt battery have to order by the box or case, I forget what it's called, and each box/case holds 4 batteries.  Minimum order for these are 15 boxes/cases, allowable every three months.  That is to order 6 volt batteries, you have to order a total of 60 batteries at a time.  A few who work night tricks almost exclusively might go through that many, but most trainmen won't.

Also available is packets of Squenchers, a powder mix added to water that is an electrolyte replacement.  Instead of a small box of 5 or 10 packets, you have to order by a large box that I think has 500 packets.  All the same flavor.  (Some have gotten together and each will order a different flavor and then trade so each has a variety.)  I think a box can be ordered every 6 months.  The box costs a little over a $100.  Someone figured out that if everyone in our terminal alone (I didn't order any) ordered their allotment, it would cost the company $30000.00 in Squenchers alone.  Maybe it will eventually save money, but I'm having a hard time seeing the "big picture" right now.

Jeff

PS.  Almost two weeks into this program, and guys ordering are now being told their items will be delayed, they are out of stock on some common items.Whistling 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, May 26, 2017 6:13 PM

Jeff - and to think we occasionally have a disconnect between theory and reality here.  Kind of silly to have such large minimums on the items cited.  I realize that they don't want to ship one battery, or a dozen Squinchers, but pallet loads is another story...

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, May 26, 2017 6:29 PM

jeffhergert
guys on the CP use it and like it.

   This puzzles me.

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, May 26, 2017 11:26 PM

We have a machine at work for supplies too.Pens,tape etc are hoarded like gold.We have shadow boards that hold brooms and shovels for cleaning too.Problem is you mostly see the shadows and not the brooms.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, May 26, 2017 11:29 PM

tree68

Jeff - and to think we occasionally have a disconnect between theory and reality here.  Kind of silly to have such large minimums on the items cited.  I realize that they don't want to ship one battery, or a dozen Squinchers, but pallet loads is another story...

 

I think the vendor's minimum, for a certain number of items and minimum cost order, was due to originally they were only supplying terminals in bulk.  A designated person did the ordering for the machines in the terminal.  It makes sense in that light to have a those high minimums per order.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, May 26, 2017 11:42 PM

On a different note, today I became PTC Qualified.  So when they turn it on I'll be ready. 

Qualifying was done on the simulator running over a portion of the west Iowa and going through different scenarios to show how things work and what to do.  Then taking a test. Going through one town, they had a pick-up truck run the gates at a crossing.  I've been in the simulator a few times, but that's the first time I've seen that.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, May 27, 2017 10:47 AM

I'd love to be looking over someone's shulder as he works with a simulator.  The last time I was in the seat on a simulator (it was new; they were showing it off in Proviso), I was piloting the Falcon across Illinois with three brand-new (yet-to-be-delivered, I think) GP50s.

I also took a bunch of gifted students to see the same simulator (in West Chicago at the time), and watched a few of them (including my daughter) bust a knuckle handling ore in the Upper Peninsula.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:31 PM

Something I'd love to have available for the various train shows I work would be a trailer with a control stand, several large monitors, two computers (so one can be set up while the other is working), and several short scenarios, possibly of our line.

The idea would be to "sell" seat time in 15 minute blocks to interested fans...  Stick another monitor or two on the outside of the trailer (an inward facing camera!) so others could watch the person inside sweating it out...

I know someone who could build the control stand - he's already built at least one - just have to come up with software more robust that MSTS or Trainz that could run three screens (front, side, rear) at once, and the scenarios to run on them.

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, May 29, 2017 10:58 AM

Been out train watching.  Memorial Day.  Holiday.  Can't tell you how many trains, but 28 locomotives.  Max 4 on one train.  Rest one or two.  Coal, lots of freight, grain.  Was wanting the Hunt train to come by so I could stop it and get a couple of cans of tomato sauce.  (our delivery grocery store doesn't carry it)  That and the Boeing were the 2 we didn't see today.  

Life is good!  Somedays, excellent....

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, May 29, 2017 11:17 AM

afternoon

Well the water is still high here in Nw Ohio.Checked the Bend.The bridge was still open.The water is under the 20 ft mark.Saw a couple trains.People enjoying the extra day.Back to work and back to school tomorrow.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, May 29, 2017 8:49 PM

Mookie

Been out train watching.  Memorial Day.  Holiday.  Can't tell you how many trains, but 28 locomotives.  Max 4 on one train.  Rest one or two.  Coal, lots of freight, grain.  Was wanting the Hunt train to come by so I could stop it and get a couple of cans of tomato sauce.  (our delivery grocery store doesn't carry it)  That and the Boeing were the 2 we didn't see today.  

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, May 29, 2017 9:27 PM

Murphy Siding
Are you collecting Boeing parts?

They won't miss them.  They all look alike, so whose to know?  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:13 AM

Mookie
 
Murphy Siding
Are you collecting Boeing parts?

 

They won't miss them.  They all look alike, so whose to know?  

 

Which parts are you missing? I can check my stash. Mischief

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:42 AM

Murphy Siding
Which parts are you missing? I can check my stash.

The wings!  They never include those.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:44 AM

I'm getting concerned .... There's a song about about a 61-62-63-64 automobile in here somewhere...Hmm  Frankenplane?

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:50 AM

mudchicken

I'm getting concerned .... There's a song about about a 61-62-63-64 automobile in here somewhere...Hmm

 

Ok - you have me Tongue Tied again.  That was my heyday and I don't remember anything that equates.  Maybe Murphy understands better than I do.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:55 AM

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:09 AM

Happened to be inbound to Linden, Mi going through Durand, Mi at 1 am this AM and immaging the luck, I got stopped be a west bound CN with just 1 loco. Figured it would be a short quick freight and I'd be on my way. NO, around 50 auto racks on the head end I missed a few. That makes for a nice unit train, but, following them were turbine blades. The blades were the 150ish ft type and they just kept appearing out of the dark. One blade per car but each blade spanned most of two cars with each car having the large round end mounted to special bracket, so in effect one blade per car. 100 blades later the train passed. So, am I correct with a ballpark length in the 13-14,000 ft range?

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:23 AM

Boy, Tree - I need to have you available to translate chicken-eze for me!  

Johnny Cash - well, that wasn't one on my top 10 list.  Little Deuce Coupe was closer.  And that is one ugly car.  I found about 3 different cars in it and won't say which ones it is comparable to that existed in that time frame.  

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:08 AM

Bob, you appear to be a bit short with the length.  Based on your report, I'm using 250 93-foot TTX flatcars (50 autoracks plus 200 flats for the turbine blades) as a yardstick and come up with about 23000 feet in length unless the flats for the turbine blades are shorter.  Maybe somebody else can help out.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:34 AM

Mookie
 
mudchicken

I'm getting concerned .... There's a song about about a 61-62-63-64 automobile in here somewhere...Hmm

 

 

 

Ok - you have me Tongue Tied again.  That was my heyday and I don't remember anything that equates.  Maybe Murphy understands better than I do.

 

 

Should I be proud or concerned if I understood it? Surprise

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I see blades for wind turbines  going by. I don't think they'd miss a couple of those. I'm sure we make it work. Do you have duct tape and a pair of slip-joint pliers?

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:45 PM

It might be the fact that I'm dealing with William Gibbons ghost and the ashes of the Rock Island ... Got a real bizzare case of who owns dat?, in the middle of downtown Peoria. Whirlpool/Maytag Corp may find itself unwillingly dragged back into the railroad biz they thought they escaped from. Everybody uses the track and R/W, but nobody claims ownership near Water and Walnut.ConfusedConfusedConfused

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:17 PM

Boy am I in over my head.  Got a Tree that knows funny cars; a Siding that wants help building and will sing at the same time (yes, I do have duct tape and have to find the slip-joint pliers) and a Chicken that is wondering if it will play in Peoria....

And we did have a train go thru here toward St Joe Mo - with blades - I counted 84 blades - one on 2 flat cars.  That is 168 cars and with other decoratives along, it was close to a 200 count train.  And all my facts are backed up by the Driver, so see there is a male involved in my postings!

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Posted by diningcar on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:18 PM

MC, Is Jumers still the place to stay in Peoria? I liked it back in the 'day??' when the TP&W was on my agenda. 

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:46 PM

Good to hear from you dinningcar.

A few weeks ago I had a question for you and mudchicken about your days back on the Santa Fe, but I apologize because now I forgot the question.

It is always good to hear from all of the folks in the Chatterbox.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:22 PM

[quote user="CSSHEGEWISCH"]

Bob, you appear to be a bit short with the length.  Based on your report, I'm using 250 93-foot TTX flatcars (50 autoracks plus 200 flats for the turbine blades) as a yardstick and come up with about 23000 feet in length unless the flats for the turbine blades are shorter.  Maybe somebody else can help out.

 

It appeared that there were 2 blades per 3 flats.  The heavy end of each on it's own car with a special roller rack on the third. Makes for a 200 + car train so I guess that makes it 18,000 + feet, so I was 'off by a mile'.  I understand the single loco on the old GT but I bet it got a workout on the long hill west of Durand to Perry, Mi.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:54 PM

diningcar

MC, Is Jumers still the place to stay in Peoria? I liked it back in the 'day??' when the TP&W was on my agenda. 

Never stayed in Peoria, so didn't know there was a Jumer's there.  I know there was one in Davenport - pretty cool place.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:04 PM

evening

got the swamp mowed after work.Local was uptown when I left work.Matt has one more day of school.You are sure to hear a few of Mr. Cash's songs in Deshler if you stay long enough.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:06 PM

DC - Jumers decided to get into the Casino business about ten years ago. The hotels in Galesburg (BW-Prairie Inn), Peoria, Davenport and Bloomington are all different names now because of the change in the business plan. I think Peoria (The Castle) is now a Radisson. (The Jumers in Bloomington (Chateau) was a little strange and a bit fru-fru* the only time I stayed there. I remember getting cut up when I brushed against the stucco walls in a hallway...)... I get the impression that Jumers is now only the casino at Rock Island.

 

(*)French Provincial gone over-the-top Tudor Bordello

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:35 PM

mudchicken
French Provincial gone over-the-top Tudor Bordello

Sounds like the place I stayed in Davenport...

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