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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:24 PM

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Trip Op is the devil. 

Throttling off 10-13 miles away from a slow so it can coast in and maybe use dynamic. It's awful. It's so slow. It's all over the place. 

I don't know how any official can say with a straight face that is really is more optimal than an engineer. 

Allegedly they justify it by fuel savings.  I just love when Trip Optimiser knuckles a train!

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 5:01 AM

Our Trip Optimizer is pretty good.  Sometimes scary good.  LEADER is the worthless pile of stuff.  LEADER version 2, the auto throttle version, is better than version 1 that only prompts the engineer but not by much.

There are times both run towards the slow side, but T-O has brought me up to slow orders where I thought it would be over speed going in.  But it got it down to the listed speed right where the slow began.

i was told by my supervisor that the algorithims for PTC will be the same used by T-O. 

When reporting issues with any of the energy management systems, we receive a ticket number.  At a union meeting a few months back we were told these tickets are being compiled because they are contemplating suing the maker of LEADER because it isn't delivering the savings promised.  But we're still required to use it as much as possible.  

Jeff

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