There is a group on the forum who feel that others are ruining the forum because they post threads or say things that the group does not like. So the group disrupts those threads in the hope of getting them locked or deleted. The group also starts threads complaining about the threads they don’t like.
Others not in the group feel that it is the group that is ruining the forum by their disrupting, self-righteous behavior. Only the moderators can resolve this dispute by enforcing their own rules.
Euclid, there are as many different opinions about how the forum should be run as there are users. And all of those opinions are equally valid, in other words worthless compared to how the operators care run their forum.
I don't think I'm in either of the 2 groups you mention, the disruptors or the ones who feel the disruptors are ruining the forum. I don't like the disruptive behavior, but I don't believe it's necessarily an organized group doing so, just a bunch of like minded folks, whom I feel it's best to ignore. I also don't think I'm in the "others not in the group" group, since I don't think the forum's ruined, either by the complainers, in this case cajonsummit complainers, or the people against whom they complain.
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Patrick,
I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.” The latter is fluid as people come and go. I am not in the "group" and glad of it.
I have no objection to people having different opinions. I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.
Euclid Patrick, I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.” The latter is fluid as people come and go. I am not in the "group" and glad of it. I have no objection to people having different opinions. I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
But Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.
Each time this fact is pointed out to you, your reaction is feigned ignorance, or you insist on seeing no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject.
This had been the problem all along.
If you are going to create a thread on a specific topic. Stick to that thread, and stop creating multiples.
Simple concept when you think about it.
I may change my signature. I see no problem with multiple threads on the same subject. For those of you to whom it is a problem DON'T FEED THE TROLL. Don't point the opinion out to them, then they won't feign ignorance, and although they may still see no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject, they won't have any legitimate reason to say they see no problem.
But this thread's original point I believe was multiple posts about different subjects, or at least about cajonsummit's multiple posts, and when I bothered to look I saw multiple posts about different subjects. Yes, the posts had similar format, they were videos, or short blurbs with links, but the subjects in the threads were different.
So can we get another thread for the perceived problem of multiple threads on the same topic?
MurrayBut Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.
There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic. And how do you define “same topic”? This is a forum about trains. Every post is on that same topic. If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception. There is very little actual repetition.
And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them. We have had several threads on track gage. Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two. Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing? How about grade crossing collisions? Are threads about that all on the same topic?
gardendance Euclid, there are as many different opinions about how the forum should be run as there are users. And all of those opinions are equally valid, in other words worthless compared to how the operators care run their forum. I don't think I'm in either of the 2 groups you mention, the disruptors or the ones who feel the disruptors are ruining the forum. I don't like the disruptive behavior, but I don't believe it's necessarily an organized group doing so, just a bunch of like minded folks, whom I feel it's best to ignore. I also don't think I'm in the "others not in the group" group, since I don't think the forum's ruined, either by the complainers, in this case cajonsummit complainers, or the people against whom they complain.
Cajon... appears to be in a different category, more like Polish Falcon in its purpose, if not methodology. OTOH, Euclid/Bucyrus makes threads and posts which "the disruptor group," formerly known as the "cotery/cabal" do not like, and then do their dance.
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SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you
"Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"
Euclid MurrayBut Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject. There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic. And how do you define “same topic”? This is a forum about trains. Every post is on that same topic. If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception. There is very little actual repetition. And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them. We have had several threads on track gage. Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two. Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing? How about grade crossing collisions? Are threads about that all on the same topic?
Bucky, I am not whining about anything. I am point out how you disrupt the forum with your multiple threads on the same subject.
You and certain other rogue posters are the disruptive cabal here.
I don't even have cabal. I either watch dvd's I get from the library or use rabbit ear antenna.
Gosh, that joke never gets old.
So Cabal isn't a Jamaican liquor ?
That might be Cabal Libre, but I didn't think it was Jamaican.
"A cabal is a group of people united in some close design together, usually to promote their private views or interests in a church, state, or other community, often by intrigue. "
ca·bal noun \kəˈbäl,ˈbal\
: a small group of people who work together secretly
Good afternoon, all.
Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.
All the best,
Steve S.
Steve SweeneyDigital Editor, Hobby
gardendance SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you "Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"
Steve Sweeney Good afternoon, all. Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch. All the best, Steve S.
Why not just delete the whole thread? That would at least be consistent, and this thread was baited for a flame war right from the first post.
Will Mr. Branch be required to remove his obnoxious and insulting/threating posts that are directed at other forum members as well?
It would seem only fair to require all members to follow the same guidelines.
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So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Balt,
I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.
Norm
Norm48327 Balt, I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.
Such pronouncements are veiled threats, as there is always a unspoken 'if you don't'! Straight from early childhood parenting 101.
Again I ask "so what"? We didn't pay for these fora, although those of you who have paid trains magazine subscriptions, or paid for trains newswire might think that entitles you to these fora. Management can do whatever they want whenever they want, and we can do little that's effective if we disagree. And I don't think we have any right to expect anything different.
BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person in question]
schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to Dwight Branch
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to Dwight Branch
Any is too many!
This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.
BaltACD schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned] Any is too many! This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.
schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned]
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned]
Sweeney is on staff at trains.com, and has asked, not demanded, that all members who read his request take the time to delete all of their own references to the person mentioned. It seems an account may have been banned/locked/deleted [perhaps by request of the person himself]...not sure, but the request is really quite straightforward. Also, since our hosts own both the forum and their TOS for it, the observation, if it has merit at all, is moot.
-Crandell
Murray zugmann schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies. Always accepting new members. And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.
zugmann schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies. Always accepting new members.
schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.
Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.
Always accepting new members.
And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.
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