chad s thomas ... of news links with 0 replys and low view counts that clutter up the forum....aren't they annoying?
... of news links with 0 replys and low view counts that clutter up the forum....aren't they annoying?
They are. I do think that post after post of the same topic, with a "yea but" added to the basic statement, are a bit more annoying.
An "expensive model collector"
Yes, but…
Getting in the last word, whether relevant or not, makes the “last poster typing” poster feel superior to the other posters.
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edblysard Yes, but… Getting in the last word, whether relevant or not, makes the “last poster typing” poster feel superior to the other posters.
I don’t see how anybody has the magic power to get the last word unless they post a lot of inflammatory nonsense to get the thread locked.
Until somebody else posts , this is the last word on this thread.
Johnny
It's a cost of being active in a group. There's no predicting what posts will go viral.
I don't see posts with zero replies as a problem. They drop out of sight quickly.
Link to thread about the thread. Or is it link to post about the post? I forget. http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/232059.aspx
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Euclid I don’t see how anybody has the magic power to get the last word unless they post a lot of inflammatory nonsense to get the thread locked.
Yes but ......
What annoys me to no ends are the absolutely inane amount of threads on the exact same topic.
What part of REDUNDANT don't some of these posters understand???
You must be easily annoyed.
Euclid You must be easily annoyed.
To no end..........
Murray What annoys me to no ends are the absolutely inane amount of threads on the exact same topic. What part of REDUNDANT don't some of these posters understand???
Well you do often seem annoyed, but I don't believe that it is because of the reason you cite. That would be a silly reason to be annoyed. No, I think it goes a little deeper.
Euclid Well you do often seem annoyed, but I don't believe that it is because of the reason you cite. That would be a silly reason to be annoyed. No, I think it goes a little deeper.
Forum psychology 101 with your professor, Dr. Bucky.
Only at trains.com.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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Norm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ
Murray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ
Sheer magic. (You should post this in the other thread, too...)
I had almost forgotten how much fun Shari Lewis was.
(More seriously -- has anyone actually tried PMing the member who keeps posting the video links, and suggesting to him that he start a thread of 'interesting train views' or something like that, and then post often enough to keep that one thread near-current?)
Now that was freaking hilarious, and so fitting !!!!
You got it:
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/232220.aspx?sort=ASC&pi332=5
dakotafred I don't see posts with zero replies as a problem. They drop out of sight quickly.
Number of posts is not necessarily the way to measure how good a thread is. For example, "Amtrak adds new service", maybe the 1st post says all anybody really needs to know about the subject. Of course that doesn't necessarily stop many people from adding meaningless posts to the thread, as I'm sure many feel most of the posts in this thread, including perhaps this post, are meaningless.
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Well I just got into town about an hour ago. 'Took a look around, to see which way the wind blows.
Yep, it's been a long time since I've gone to page 2, but I don't think we have much need to do it. At least not the way chrome and firefox present threads. Mabye your setup's different. Threads with the most recent posts appear 1st, and ones I've already visited are grey unless there's a more recent post since I last visited, so I only need scroll down to the 1st grey font. That's pretty quick unless I've found something more worthwhile on which to waste my time than this.
and yep, cajonsummit has posted 6 times on each of the most recent 2 pages, but I don't see that they're generic. 5 of the 12, less than 50% are videos. Are you trying to say if you've seen one freight train video you've seen them all? 2 of them are in Austin Tx, but the titles say different railroads. The only ones I'd call generic, from title alone since I haven't watched the videos, are the 2 in Fontana Ca.
His other thread titles certainly seem varied enough to me. I can't swear that I've viewed each of those threads. Did you, and did you then determine they contained generic info other than what their titles suggested?
By the way, what's to stop a pushed to prior pages original poster from replying "folks, why hasn't anybody replied" if they want their thread back at the top of the list?
Video of a WB UPRR Intermodal Train @ Fontana CAon Saturday, September 06, 2014 Viewed 125 timesLatest post by Murphy Siding Sat, Sep 6 2014 11:50 PM 7 replies
Minnesota Increases Train Inspectionson Saturday, September 06, 2014 Viewed 353 timesLatest post by edblysard Sat, Sep 6 2014 10:54 PM 15 replies
Video of a EB BNSF Local Train @ Milano TXon Saturday, September 06, 2014 Viewed 74 timesLatest post by chad s thomas Sat, Sep 6 2014 7:04 PM 2 replies
Rail Traffic Increases Again This Past Weekon Saturday, September 06, 2014 Viewed 157 timesLatest post by desertdog Sat, Sep 6 2014 3:11 PM 6 replies
RRs @ the Forefront Building a Hub @ Decatur ILon Friday, September 05, 2014 Viewed 201 timesLatest post by MP173 Fri, Sep 5 2014 9:21 PM 2 replies
Video of a NB BNSF Train @ Austin TXon Friday, September 05, 2014 Viewed 36 timesLatest post by cajonsummit Fri, Sep 5 2014 11:23 AM 0 replies
page 2Video of a WB UPRR Train @ Fontana CAon Friday, September 05, 2014 Viewed 28 timesLatest post by cajonsummit Fri, Sep 5 2014 6:12 AM 0 replies
Rail Ferry Service Marks 1,000 Tripon Thursday, September 04, 2014 Viewed 152 timesLatest post by Paul_D_North_Jr Thu, Sep 4 2014 7:59 PM 1 replies
Pacific Harbor Line Extends Connectionson Thursday, September 04, 2014 Viewed 126 timesLatest post by cacole Thu, Sep 4 2014 4:11 PM 1 replies
Car Sales, Factory Orders Boost Economyon Thursday, September 04, 2014 Viewed 53 timesLatest post by cajonsummit Thu, Sep 4 2014 12:55 PM 0 replies
Video of a EB BNSF Intermodal Train Moving Thru Lenwood CAon Thursday, September 04, 2014 Viewed 40 timesLatest post by cajonsummit Thu, Sep 4 2014 11:27 AM 0 replies
Video of a NB UPRR Train @ Austin TXon Thursday, September 04, 2014 Viewed 39 times 0 repliesLatest post by cajonsummit Thu, Sep 4 2014 10:22 AM 0 replies
She's got eyes of the bluest skies that if they thought of rain, I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain.
It is not unlike placing 15 or so posts regarding the same oil train disaster.
Murphy Siding Would you feel the same if I replied to the last 20 of his threads saying "Hi! how's it going'?" so the whole 1st page was overgrown with his threads?
Would you feel the same if I replied to the last 20 of his threads saying "Hi! how's it going'?" so the whole 1st page was overgrown with his threads?
I'm doing ok. How about yourself?
zugmann Murphy Siding Would you feel the same if I replied to the last 20 of his threads saying "Hi! how's it going'?" so the whole 1st page was overgrown with his threads? I'm doing ok. How about yourself?
I can't find a category to report this under.
Murray I can't find a category to report this under.
Potpourri for $500, Alex.
So the bigger question is: How is EVERYONE doing?????
I'll take forum etticut for $500 Alex.
Murray So the bigger question is: How is EVERYONE doing?????
Absolutely fabulous Murray...thanks for asking...and yourself?
chad s thomas Murray So the bigger question is: How is EVERYONE doing????? Absolutely fabulous Murray...thanks for asking...and yourself?
I'm doing very well, thanks so much for asking!!!
Wow I certainly hope things get better for you and your family Norris.
Thanks Chad. The upside is I've lost 10 pounds over the last 2 weeks. I figure if I keep this up until Christmas, I'll be looking good.
Based on cajonsumit's thread titles, I probably would not be interested in opening them, so I probably wouldn't care one way or another if you posted a bunch of off topic replies.
I'd continue doing what I already said I do: scroll down until I see something grey, which meant I saw all the thread titles that had no new posts since my last session. How I'd feel would depend on if I bothered to click on any of those 20 threads, which I would do based on their titles.
IF, and that's a capital big IF, the titles implied something in which I'd be interested in reading and I found only 20 off topic "Hi! how's it going" I'd probably be upset at you having wasted so much of my time, and since posting off topic is against the rules I bet somebody might report you, or maybe moderators might notice your violation and might take action. I probably wouldn't be upset enough to bother reporting you, but I do hope you notice that you're suggesting breaking the rules in order, as far as I can tell, to protest what someone else is doing who's not breaking the rules.
Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out. Consider this- It may not be against the rules for your neighbor to plant his whole yard in kudzu or dandelions, but does that make it a good idea? How far does this have to go, before his behavior does begin to bother you? If he filled all 17 of the open spaces on the front page instead of just 5 or 6, would that be OK yet with you?
I already said I probably wouldn't care, since his thread titles don't interest me I probably wouldn't bother to click on them, or at least I haven't bothered to click on them so far, and it's not so much of a bother for me to make one extra click to get to page 2, or however many pages back I'd need to go to get check what threads have new posts since my last session.
Apparently you have had enough interest to have clicked on them, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. You either enjoy reading his threads enough that you have decided to continue clicking on them, or if you don't enjoy reading his threads you should stop, or complain about whomever's forcing you to click on them.
And of course he hasn't filled all of the open spaces on the front page, but apparently 5 or 6 for one person is too much for you, but 17, or 20, is not too much for me. Who knows, maybe someday somebody might do it enough for me finally to care, but I don't worry too much about cajonsummit, he's artfully managed to stay under my threshold, so count me as one of those good people who will do nothing and let evil triumph. Sorry I can't champion your cause to have no poster contribute more than 5 posts per page.
Murphy Siding Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out.
Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out.
Did you mean looking "at" instead of "out"? In my copy and paste example on page 2 I saw several of his posts had more than 100 views, so I think in addition to your threshold of too many posts being too low your threshold of how many people count as someone seems to be too high.
Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? What gives individual members the right to express their personal objections by posting off topic nonsense and personal insults to shoot down a discussion that they don’t like or think is repetitive; or to start threads complaining about some other poster’s posts?
Murphy,
what are the threads that you wanted to read but couldn't because they got pushed back to page 2? And please don't pick ones that would have been pushed to page 2 IF cajonsummit had put 20 threads on page 1, stick to ones that actually were on page 2.
Euclid Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person?
Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person?
Anyhow, let the moderators do their job.
Euclid What gives individual members the right to express their personal objections by posting off topic nonsense and personal insults to shoot down a discussion that they don’t like or think is repetitive; or to start threads complaining about some other poster’s posts?
Wait a second, I though you just said we should let the moderators sort that out??? Why are you not letting them do that?
I'm so confused.
I don't take part in many other forums anymore (this is about it), but many of the ones I've been on through the years didn't allow posts that were nothing more than a link. There had to be something of substance there. Otherwise, it was just people trying to rack up views on their pictures/videos/etc. for some strange reason.
Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.
You obviously cannot have it both ways.
I did have something here, but it vanished.
I blame the forum gods. I must have dispeleaseth them.
Murray Euclid Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.
Please explain that with a specific example. I don't recall making such a complaint.
gardendance Murphy, what are the threads that you wanted to read but couldn't because they got pushed back to page 2? And please don't pick ones that would have been pushed to page 2 IF cajonsummit had put 20 threads on page 1, stick to ones that actually were on page 2.
Euclid Murray Euclid Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum. Please explain that with a specific example. I don't recall making such a complaint.
And please make your response in the form of a haiku.
Murphy Siding Fair enough. Where's the thread where Dwight Branch told us we were all going to be in big trouble when Dad gets home? It's not on page one any more.
Can you imagine the look on the moderators faces when they opened up their inboxes and there's like 50 report notices, 25 from our friend, Mr. Branch?
Sittin' on the dock of the bay, watchin' the tide run away.
Gentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read?
Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB?
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Mookie Gentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB?
That is the specific example...and I know (and you know) you have said that in this forum on numerous occasions.
Surely you are not coming down with a case of selective amnesia?
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Well said Mookie.
That's the whole point of this thread.
Some folks really need to learn some neticut. One lesson is DONT TRY TO RUIN THE FOROM for everyone else. It's not that complicated.
Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.
C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan
schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.
Always accepting new members.
zugmann schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies. Always accepting new members.
And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.
Murphy SidingMookie Gentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? Ding! Ding! We have a winner!(And just where do you get off calling me a gentleman? )
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Murphy Siding gardendance Murphy Siding Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out. Did you mean looking "at" instead of "out"? In my copy and paste example on page 2 I saw several of his posts had more than 100 views, so I think in addition to your threshold of too many posts being too low your threshold of how many people count as someone seems to be too high.tomatoes, potato... Since you asked, I looked. There are 4 threads with over 100 views. That is mostly because those got replies asking the OP to please consolidate his threads or something similar. If you discount the threads with higher views because of the replies, and you discount about one reply to make a link hot on every other thread, the math looks something like this: For September, 2014 so far: 14 total threadsaverage views 49average replies: 1
gardendance Murphy Siding Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out. Did you mean looking "at" instead of "out"? In my copy and paste example on page 2 I saw several of his posts had more than 100 views, so I think in addition to your threshold of too many posts being too low your threshold of how many people count as someone seems to be too high.
For September, 2014 so far:
14 total threadsaverage views 49average replies: 1
you now list 14 threads, apparently from a different sample since you say "September 2014 so far" and I looked at 2 pages at the time I researched, so it looks like we're comparing tomatoes and potatoes. And you're not clear if you already discounted the "discount threads with higher views because of replies" in your "14 threads Sept so far", but just in case lets say at the time there were 17 threads. You posted Sep 8, I get less than 3 threads per day. I don't know how many threads you expect in an average day, but I again think your threshold of how many threads an individual's allowed to post is too low.
chad s thomasMookieGentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? Well said Mookie.Smile, Wink & GrinThat's the whole point of this thread.Some folks really need to learn some neticut. One lesson is DONT TRY TO RUIN THE FOROM for everyone else. It's not that complicated.
MookieGentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB?
DeggestySomehow, all posts to the General Forum come to my email, and I can easily delete any that immediately irritate me or do not interest me. I could tell the site not to send them--but it does let me know when someone has posted a new thread or to an old thread.
I leave you with this hopefully amusing story, slightly related. An experienced political party representative was taking an apprentice through the graveyard, showing him how to collect prospective voter names. The new worker was having some difficulty reading one of the faded grave markers. The more experienced fellow told him "You do your best to get that name. He has just as much right to vote in this election as anybody else buried in this cemetery."In similar vein, cajonsummit has just as much right to post as many threads to this forum as any of the rest of us.
I reread the "Minnesota Increases Train Inspections" thread just in case it had drastically changed to support Mr. Siding's "mostly because those got replies asking the OP to please consolidate his threads". NONE of the replies asked to consolidate, or anything similar. It now has over 900 views and 22 replies.
Do I call you Mr. Dance, or the long form Mr. Gardendance?
Says it all.
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
Murphy Siding Do I call you Mr. Dance, or the long form Mr. Gardendance?
gardendance Murphy Siding Do I call you Mr. Dance, or the long form Mr. Gardendance? Many just abbreviate it GD. For a long time I thought my name was Jesus since people would say "Jesus is that you again."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoYsfbq3vMc
For those of you that haven't been around here for the last decade, there is more to it then just 'cluttering the forum'.
Look up SPBed from around 2006-7' to learn more.
chad s thomas For those of you that haven't been around here for the last decade, there is more to it then just 'cluttering the forum'. Look up SPBed from around 2006-7' to learn more.
How can you do that with the forum software?
Funny how this and a few other NON-RAILROAD RELATED threads keep popping to the top of the list, shoving more ON-TOPIC threads off the 1st page!
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Sorry I don't know how.
I started a thread recently that I thought would garner more interest. It is definitely interesting that the threads that have the most posts are the complaint threads. FWIW, I'd like the video threads placed in one thread, although they don't really bother me.
chad s thomas Sorry I don't know how.
Yes but....
Norm48327 chad s thomas For those of you that haven't been around here for the last decade, there is more to it then just 'cluttering the forum'. Look up SPBed from around 2006-7' to learn more. How can you do that with the forum software?
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/default.aspx
on the right hand side you will see a "Search Community" box. That will search all the TRAINS Magazine fora(?) (forums?), I believe.
James
Thanks.
As I mentioned before, perhaps other people's setup may be different, but the "search community" box is on virtually every trains.com screen I've seen, including the one on which I read this message. Just in case I went to http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/default.aspx and entered 'SPBed' and got 1161 results. They seem to be in date posted order, I clicked "load more" and looked, my find box says 2007 has 88 reesults, 2006 has 225 results. chad s thomas doesn't say for what it is we're supposed to be looking, I've looked at a few of the results, tried to make it on per month, and don't see what the problem is
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/113414/1303287.aspx#1303287Pix From Central CaliforniaPosted by spbed on Mon, Dec 24 2007 10:18 AMstarts with an invitation to look at his railpix photos, has 2 replies, ChuckCobleigh and Modelcar, complimenting the photos and spbed's 'thank you' replies
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/110759/1276003.aspx#1276003Re: New Video From Daggett CAPosted by spbed on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:53 AMas above, starts with an invitation to look at a video, complimentary reply, daniel3197, and spbed's thank you
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/102777/1238009.aspx#1238009Re: Cajon Pass Triple-Tracking Updates (Plus Barstow-Daggett)Posted by kenneo on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 4:10 AMthe thread itself Posted by K. P. Harrier on Sat, Aug 18 2007 7:29 PM, this link's result is a subsequent page where somebody else quoted spbed's comment "They store MOW equipment there. There is a similar one at Caliente at the western end of the T. loop"
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/6399/1214894.aspx#1214894whats your favorite trainwatching spotPosted by Anonymous on Mon, Aug 4 2003 8:29 PMspbed answered what was his favorite spot, somebody replied to him and he replied back
Again other people's setup may be different, but if I click from the search community box, my back button doesn't take me back to the prior results, so I have to remember to press right and select open in new tab or new window, and at this point I forgot and couldn't get back to the list. Perhaps if I had the inclination and a lot of time I might find the evil that spbed, whom I assume Chad feels is cajonsummit's former handle, and I assume Chad thinks he changed handles improperly, but I have far more important things on which to waste my time. Chad, you say there is more to it than just cluttering up the forum, but the method you're suggesting we use to find out that "more" is far more cumbersome than the slight obstacle of once in a while needing to click to get to page 2 to find a post I'VE ALREADY READ AND PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO READ AGAIN.
Please supply links to the actual examples of spbed's or cajonsummit's evildoings.
NorthWestI started a thread recently that I thought would garner more interest. It is definitely interesting that the threads that have the most posts are the complaint threads. FWIW, I'd like the video threads placed in one thread, although they don't really bother me.
The "Lounge" thread was started mostly as a place to share photos and the like, whereas the "Diner" thread was started simply as a place to socialize.
Perhaps a thread entitled "Mr DeMille, My Close Up" (or some such idea - I'm sure that successive follow-on threads would have similarly clever names) would serve the purpose of allowing forum members to share both videos and stills.
It would undoubtedly be heavily used by those with lots of pictures and videos to share. Some might consider that as "monopolizing," but some are more prolific that others when it comes to both images and video.
The convention for the thread might dictate that a post include not only the link to the image or video, but a brief description thereof (ie, Lackwanna F units on Horseshoe Curve) so anyone not interested in that particular subject could simply skip that posting and move on to the next.
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gardendance As I mentioned before, perhaps other people's setup may be different, but the "search community" box is on virtually every trains.com screen I've seen, including the one on which I read this message. Just in case I went to http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/default.aspx and entered 'SPBed' and got 1161 results. They seem to be in date posted order, I clicked "load more" and looked, my find box says 2007 has 88 reesults, 2006 has 225 results. chad s thomas doesn't say for what it is we're supposed to be looking, I've looked at a few of the results, tried to make it on per month, and don't see what the problem is http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/113414/1303287.aspx#1303287Pix From Central CaliforniaPosted by spbed on Mon, Dec 24 2007 10:18 AMstarts with an invitation to look at his railpix photos, has 2 replies, ChuckCobleigh and Modelcar, complimenting the photos and spbed's 'thank you' replies http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/110759/1276003.aspx#1276003Re: New Video From Daggett CAPosted by spbed on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:53 AMas above, starts with an invitation to look at a video, complimentary reply, daniel3197, and spbed's thank you http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/102777/1238009.aspx#1238009Re: Cajon Pass Triple-Tracking Updates (Plus Barstow-Daggett)Posted by kenneo on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 4:10 AMthe thread itself Posted by K. P. Harrier on Sat, Aug 18 2007 7:29 PM, this link's result is a subsequent page where somebody else quoted spbed's comment "They store MOW equipment there. There is a similar one at Caliente at the western end of the T. loop" http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/6399/1214894.aspx#1214894whats your favorite trainwatching spotPosted by Anonymous on Mon, Aug 4 2003 8:29 PMspbed answered what was his favorite spot, somebody replied to him and he replied back Again other people's setup may be different, but if I click from the search community box, my back button doesn't take me back to the prior results, so I have to remember to press right and select open in new tab or new window, and at this point I forgot and couldn't get back to the list. Perhaps if I had the inclination and a lot of time I might find the evil that spbed, whom I assume Chad feels is cajonsummit's former handle, and I assume Chad thinks he changed handles improperly, but I have far more important things on which to waste my time. Chad, you say there is more to it than just cluttering up the forum, but the method you're suggesting we use to find out that "more" is far more cumbersome than the slight obstacle of once in a while needing to click to get to page 2 to find a post I'VE ALREADY READ AND PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO READ AGAIN. Please supply links to the actual examples of spbed's or cajonsummit's evildoings.
Pretty long post for someone with no time to waste.
Well, never mind, I made it all up.
Good luck. bye bye
Murray Mr. Branch, it appears that you are seething with hostility towards your fellow posters? Why is that?
Mr. Branch, it appears that you are seething with hostility towards your fellow posters?
Why is that?
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
Or, "tu quoque"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
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chad s thomas Pretty long post for someone with no time to waste. Well, never mind, I made it all up. Good luck. bye bye
Yes it was a pretty long post, so what of it? Bear in mind that I was frustrated at having taken your bait and tried to find out what it was about which you were complaining, and had thus wasted time doing what you had asked. I wanted that time not to have been wasted in vain, documented it and asked for you to supply an easier way to determine what it was that cajonsummit had done that destroyed your life, which you had documented in a private message, going so far as to say "he almost cost me MY JOB once".
You were the one who created this thread, initially complaining
Never were so many words expended by so many to say absolutely nothing!
And tell me how this one is somehow better than the boring video posts?
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I don't know how this thread's any better than the video posts, but I'll defend to his death cajonsummit's right to post them. I can't tell if they're boring, since although I have opened a few of the threads just to see what all the fuss is about I haven't clicked through to watch any of the videos. I remember on some of the threads cajonsummit got compliments from a couple of people.
If however boring videos bother you may I suggest need help photographing Delair Bridge from the river http://youtu.be/f7lG4AFJBCo http://youtu.be/17hXo_sdTBM http://youtu.be/UeNlXEGmT38 http://youtu.be/shhFHqTU7rU http://youtu.be/4bCOKgmOjwU You'll be begging for the sweet release of some of cajonsummit's videos after looking at these.
There is a group on the forum who feel that others are ruining the forum because they post threads or say things that the group does not like. So the group disrupts those threads in the hope of getting them locked or deleted. The group also starts threads complaining about the threads they don’t like.
Others not in the group feel that it is the group that is ruining the forum by their disrupting, self-righteous behavior. Only the moderators can resolve this dispute by enforcing their own rules.
Euclid, there are as many different opinions about how the forum should be run as there are users. And all of those opinions are equally valid, in other words worthless compared to how the operators care run their forum.
I don't think I'm in either of the 2 groups you mention, the disruptors or the ones who feel the disruptors are ruining the forum. I don't like the disruptive behavior, but I don't believe it's necessarily an organized group doing so, just a bunch of like minded folks, whom I feel it's best to ignore. I also don't think I'm in the "others not in the group" group, since I don't think the forum's ruined, either by the complainers, in this case cajonsummit complainers, or the people against whom they complain.
May I leave you with this thought from the Rodney King John Deere commercial, "Can't we all just get a lawn"?
Patrick,
I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.” The latter is fluid as people come and go. I am not in the "group" and glad of it.
I have no objection to people having different opinions. I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.
Euclid Patrick, I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.” The latter is fluid as people come and go. I am not in the "group" and glad of it. I have no objection to people having different opinions. I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.
But Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.
Each time this fact is pointed out to you, your reaction is feigned ignorance, or you insist on seeing no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject.
This had been the problem all along.
If you are going to create a thread on a specific topic. Stick to that thread, and stop creating multiples.
Simple concept when you think about it.
I may change my signature. I see no problem with multiple threads on the same subject. For those of you to whom it is a problem DON'T FEED THE TROLL. Don't point the opinion out to them, then they won't feign ignorance, and although they may still see no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject, they won't have any legitimate reason to say they see no problem.
But this thread's original point I believe was multiple posts about different subjects, or at least about cajonsummit's multiple posts, and when I bothered to look I saw multiple posts about different subjects. Yes, the posts had similar format, they were videos, or short blurbs with links, but the subjects in the threads were different.
So can we get another thread for the perceived problem of multiple threads on the same topic?
MurrayBut Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.
There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic. And how do you define “same topic”? This is a forum about trains. Every post is on that same topic. If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception. There is very little actual repetition.
And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them. We have had several threads on track gage. Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two. Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing? How about grade crossing collisions? Are threads about that all on the same topic?
gardendance Euclid, there are as many different opinions about how the forum should be run as there are users. And all of those opinions are equally valid, in other words worthless compared to how the operators care run their forum. I don't think I'm in either of the 2 groups you mention, the disruptors or the ones who feel the disruptors are ruining the forum. I don't like the disruptive behavior, but I don't believe it's necessarily an organized group doing so, just a bunch of like minded folks, whom I feel it's best to ignore. I also don't think I'm in the "others not in the group" group, since I don't think the forum's ruined, either by the complainers, in this case cajonsummit complainers, or the people against whom they complain.
Cajon... appears to be in a different category, more like Polish Falcon in its purpose, if not methodology. OTOH, Euclid/Bucyrus makes threads and posts which "the disruptor group," formerly known as the "cotery/cabal" do not like, and then do their dance.
SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you
"Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"
Euclid MurrayBut Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group! You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject. There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic. And how do you define “same topic”? This is a forum about trains. Every post is on that same topic. If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception. There is very little actual repetition. And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them. We have had several threads on track gage. Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two. Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing? How about grade crossing collisions? Are threads about that all on the same topic?
Bucky, I am not whining about anything. I am point out how you disrupt the forum with your multiple threads on the same subject.
You and certain other rogue posters are the disruptive cabal here.
I don't even have cabal. I either watch dvd's I get from the library or use rabbit ear antenna.
Gosh, that joke never gets old.
So Cabal isn't a Jamaican liquor ?
That might be Cabal Libre, but I didn't think it was Jamaican.
"A cabal is a group of people united in some close design together, usually to promote their private views or interests in a church, state, or other community, often by intrigue. "
ca·bal noun \kəˈbäl,ˈbal\
: a small group of people who work together secretly
Good afternoon, all.
Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.
All the best,
Steve S.
Steve SweeneyDigital Editor, Hobby
gardendance SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you "Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"
Steve Sweeney Good afternoon, all. Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch. All the best, Steve S.
Why not just delete the whole thread? That would at least be consistent, and this thread was baited for a flame war right from the first post.
Will Mr. Branch be required to remove his obnoxious and insulting/threating posts that are directed at other forum members as well?
It would seem only fair to require all members to follow the same guidelines.
So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Balt,
I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.
Norm48327 Balt, I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.
Such pronouncements are veiled threats, as there is always a unspoken 'if you don't'! Straight from early childhood parenting 101.
Again I ask "so what"? We didn't pay for these fora, although those of you who have paid trains magazine subscriptions, or paid for trains newswire might think that entitles you to these fora. Management can do whatever they want whenever they want, and we can do little that's effective if we disagree. And I don't think we have any right to expect anything different.
BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person in question]
schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to Dwight Branch
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to Dwight Branch
Any is too many!
This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.
BaltACD schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned] Any is too many! This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.
schlimm BaltACD So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS. That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned]
That is a distortion of what Steve posted. Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned]
Sweeney is on staff at trains.com, and has asked, not demanded, that all members who read his request take the time to delete all of their own references to the person mentioned. It seems an account may have been banned/locked/deleted [perhaps by request of the person himself]...not sure, but the request is really quite straightforward. Also, since our hosts own both the forum and their TOS for it, the observation, if it has merit at all, is moot.
-Crandell
Murray zugmann schlimm Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies. Always accepting new members. And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.
Dear All:
I am locking this thread because of the vitriol exposed in the past two weeks. Thanks to all of you who respected my request last Friday to remove references to a fellow forum poster.
Please look for another thread in General Discussion which will hopefully help vent additional frustrations you may have. Ang and I look forward to talking to you there.
Best,
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