Starting a Railroad, Phase 1

[Junctionfan]

What are the workers in the U.S payed compaired to in Canada keeping in mind that the U.S dollar is stronger than the Canadian? Even after the exchange rate, Canadian workers should be cheaper shouldn't they?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Dupont Chemical, which produces both inbound and outbound loads

Nice. However, since these loads are probably shipped/received in tankcars and/or covered hoppers, the same cars cannot be used to ship out product that brought in raw materials (unless DuPont wants to clean them). How does that affect revenues, compare to say, boxcars loaded both ways?

Doesn't really matter unless car supply is a problem (it isn't). Any impact is simply in car hire and demurrage. In this case Dupont has a dedicated fleet of private mark boxcars and uses private mark tanks and covered hoppers for outbound shipments so a few days car hire relief and car supply from KCS or CN or even CSX is more than adequate.

Oh, I should've mentioned that the new railroad, to be known as MIssissippi Gulf Railway, LLC will interchange with KCS at Hattiesburg, CN at Hattiesburg and CSX at Gulfport. Tomorrow, after work I'll fill in a few more details...

LC

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Dupont Chemical, which produces both inbound and outbound loads

Nice. However, since these loads are probably shipped/received in tankcars and/or covered hoppers, the same cars cannot be used to ship out product that brought in raw materials (unless DuPont wants to clean them). How does that affect revenues, compare to say, boxcars loaded both ways?

[Anonymous]

OK, so here it is.

The mystery line is the Gulfport Subdivision of the Kansas City Southern Railway Co.

This includes the 65.2 mile Gulfport Branch, plus 5miles of trackage rights over CN (IC) to Hattiesburg, MS (MP70.2) and the 13 mile Dupont Industrial Lead.

The line has several customers at different locations including Dupont Chemical, which produces both inbound and outbound loads and the Mississippi State Port at Gulfport and other industries.

LC

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

In Niagara, trillium ships about 10 hoppers of grain to ADM in Port Colborne, 9 to 11 cars of corn and at least 9 empty corn syrup cars to Casco, about 30 hoppers of grain to Robin Hood.

They ship 3 or 5 empty sulfuric acid tankers to General Chemical in Thorold. In St.Catharines, they ship about 2-4 box cars to Interlake Paper, 1 depressed flat to Trenegy boilers works, 1 or more depressed flat to Feranti-Packard transformers, 1-3 tankers of chemicals to Kemira Chemical and 3 to 10 gondolas to Glendale (ex Newmans) metals for scap loading.

In Welland, the ship 1 tanker of chemicals to GDX Automotive, about 20 or more gondolas of scap metal from International Marine Salvage, medium transloading of mostly pipe and dimensional loads from Mel Jones Heavy Construction, and 2 or 3 covered two bay hoppers for Vasuvius.

There is at least 20 to 30 other businesses alone in Niagara, that would consider transloading if not direct spur which they would likely prefer transloading facility.

Thanks Andrew, but I already have a railroad in mind. I'm actually fairly familiar with the railroads of western Ontario including Trillium Rail and Ontario Southland. Regardless, I am not interested in starting lines in Canada for a number of reasons. High taxes, high employee costs, high health care costs etc...

LC

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M.W. Hemphill

LC, I take it you'll be assessing the current and potential revenue, then?

Correct.

LC

[Junctionfan]

In Niagara, trillium ships about 10 hoppers of grain to ADM in Port Colborne, 9 to 11 cars of corn and at least 9 empty corn syrup cars to Casco, about 30 hoppers of grain to Robin Hood.

They ship 3 or 5 empty sulfuric acid tankers to General Chemical in Thorold. In St.Catharines, they ship about 2-4 box cars to Interlake Paper, 1 depressed flat to Trenegy boilers works, 1 or more depressed flat to Feranti-Packard transformers, 1-3 tankers of chemicals to Kemira Chemical and 3 to 10 gondolas to Glendale (ex Newmans) metals for scap loading.

In Welland, the ship 1 tanker of chemicals to GDX Automotive, about 20 or more gondolas of scap metal from International Marine Salvage, medium transloading of mostly pipe and dimensional loads from Mel Jones Heavy Construction, and 2 or 3 covered two bay hoppers for Vasuvius.

There is at least 20 to 30 other businesses alone in Niagara, that would consider transloading if not direct spur which they would likely prefer transloading facility.

[CSXrules4eva]

I wonder when u (LC) aquire the railroad; would you invest some money into expansion and growth? It seems to me as if ur eventually going to ponder on the issue of money, time, and labor your RR is going to put in for proper infrastructure. This of course comes after the guys with the extreamly white hair convince investors and customers that your RR corp is a dependable and relible one. With respect to the fact that your going to have to expand as the demand for your excellent transportation of goods rises.

[Junctionfan]

My recommendation would be Trillium Railways. It moves a lot of cars in Niagara and St.Thomas Ontario and has access to CP, CN and NS. Because there is a lot of abandon track from CN and CP getting rid of it, it gives the company potential growth to expand. The CN Van Der Water yard in St.Thomas is rarely used and when it is, it is used as car storage. Surely CN would sell it off if givin the right price.

There are a lot of transloading possibilities.

If we started to slowly rebuild much of the old CASO line, we could serve a number of industries a long the way that would welcome it by means of transloading or direct spur. Because the rails have been ripped out but the land has remained intact for the most part, attempting to reclaim the land for ourselves should prove not difficult. There are several laws that dictate that we have a right to reuse the land if it's abandoned or the railroad isn't planning on using it. The competition act is one and another is legislation that was passed during the time of Ernie Eves as Premier of Ontario. A private member by the name of Frank Klees, passed a bill dictating that rail routes were to be protected against rail trail and redevelopment.

In Canada, it is cheaper to hire workers because the workers here get paid Canadian but the railroad collects in U.S. The employer doesn't pay for health and because we have the Workers Compensation Board, on the job injuries of your workers are payed for by the government and the worker doesn't sue us for hundreds of thousands or millions.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Blue Ridge Front

How long is the line going to be and is it expandable for future growth?

Real railroads are rarely "expandable". Growth is generally what is very nearby and/or what can be reached by transloading.

LC

[Anonymous]

The Team

For my team I'll need a handful of people. These folks need to havea good quality of railroad experience, financial experience, legal experience and will need to have enough grey hair to convince serious investors and bankers that they have a serious project.

Why do I deserve a seat in this august group? About 15 years in the industry in one capacity or another including brakeman, conductor, locomotive engineer, manager, general counsel and outside counsel. Practice in law firms in major cities. Legal formation of three short line railroads. In addition to President, I'll fill the roles of Counsel (Except in conflict situations), labor relations, marketing, sales, DSLE to recertify management, locomotive engineer on occasion and bottle washer...

I'll be bringing along someone with the necessary engineering background for the position of V.P. Engineering, this individual has 30 years MOW and operating experience and is also fully qualified as a track inspector, conductor, locomotive engineer and DSLE.

I'll need a good finance guy preferably with a good MBA and a good mechanical guy to round our the preliminary team.

LC

[Junctionfan]

Which line is it? What industries does it serve currently?

[Anonymous]

How long is the line going to be and is it expandable for future growth?

[Anonymous]

So here we are in Phase 1.

Business Plan

A few thoughts on how I would select a railroad to buy. I have always thought it is easier to raise capital when one has something to show potential investors. So I would produce a draft business plan focussed on the first acquisition. This business plan requires a preliminary management team for the railroad appropriate in size and function for the railroad to be acquired and operated. It requires a detailed financial plan including pro forma projections of both revenues and expenses in exacting detail. Balance sheets, income statements and capital sources and uses are critical to success with private investors and/or lenders. The projections would be for a minimum of five years based upon available information.

Locating Available Properties

There are many ways of locating railroads that may be available for sale or lease. In this example I will focus on a purchase. Lines may be advertised in industry or other publications, but more often one must seek them out. This is especially true of the better opportunities. In this case I have selected a line that was rumored to be for sale by a Class 1. The rumors were compelling enough for the state in which the line was located to authorize bonds for its purchase. The line was never sold and remains operated by the Class 1.

LC