This is for Ed Blysard

[edblysard]

Quentin,
They do, but they also can be modified for continous fireing, you change the trigger lock...
Ever see the pros using a nail gun on a roofing job, just banging away?
Thats what you modify them for.
This is my old framing gun, back when I was a helper for a contractor....
We installed cedar shingle sideing and did framing work, so you need to be able to just point and shoot, so to speak.

I smooth forgot it was set up like that...
Live and learn.

Got most of the service entrance wired today, not a big fan of electricity or house wireing, but its cheaper than hireing a contractor.
240 two phase for the A/C and the oven in, and most of the 115/120 for the wall plugs.

We had a stainless steel sink, its over 30 years old and still looks new, so Aimee decided to get all the appliances in stainless, with black trim.

Kinda looks like a commercial kitchen...
Aimee is a commercial cook, you know, turn the fire on, throw the meat in the skillett, go watch TV till the next commercial, then go flip the meat...

When she cooks, we have a lot of "pan blackened" items...

Which is why I learned to cook, in self defense...

Man, I am so glad she dosnt read this stuff......

Ed

[Modelcar]

....Wow...Ed, that's really funny. Commerical cook...First I ever heard it discribed like that....Wife Jean said to tell you she's jealous with all that stainless stuff your putting in. We both like that but back in '89 when we had everything replaced in the kitchen...[didn't move any walls], the stainless was sort of out of "style" then...Should not have paid any attention if it was or wasn't...but so be it....That's how we got most of appliances now covered with black shiny stuff...Next sink WILL be stainless.

[Anonymous]

Hey Ed, before you fry yourself, that 240 in your main panel is also single phase, just like the 115/120. And don't try to bootleg it--get it inspected before you cover it up--the stuff can be more dangerous than a runaway tank car if it's done wrong. If you have an electrician buddy, let him have a look at it and do the final live connection for you-it's worth whatever small amount you might have to pay him. I don't want to have to come look at what's left of you and/or your humble abode and figure out what happened and why.

And quit this remodeling-you're getting me in trouble with my better half! I promised her I'd redo the kitchen and thus far I've only been able to do a piece here and there (travel schedule and co. adm.--I envy you guys with reasonable, set hours-lucky devils!). Also want to convert all to black/stainless and get rid of that late '70's yellow. You're right--looks commercial. But I refuse to put in a big hood and Ansul unit to get the full commercial experience[:D]

[edblysard]

Big D,
No worries, pulled the meter and , just for good measure, the main breaker.
The old box was a StabLock style, set up as a junction box and breaker box.

I know its two 115/120 lines, and the netural.

The old box has gangable lugs designed to junction over to another box, so we just removed all the old breakers, ran new conduit to a new GE box, and hooked em up.

Got tired of five breakers running the entire house, you know, if you turn on the microwave, you have to turn off the coffee pot or it trips the breaker...or dims all the lights and makes the computer turn off....

The old style breakers cost about $45.00 each, so for the cost of two of them, I bought a new GE box, complete with 15 breakers.

It will hold 20, if you need that many.

Yes, it is single phase 120 volt, but the breakers for things like A/C and stoves, dryers stuff like that uses one side each of the two 120 lines, so you have two phase 240,(one 120 single phase + one 120 single phase = 240 dual phase) and the breakers themselves are designed to do this for you, all you do is connect the two 120 live to the lugs or buss bars in the box, the breakers for the 240 part have jumper clips in them.
And I did have it looked over, the neighbor two doors down worked 30 something years for HL&P, (Houston Lighting and Power) as a lineman supervisor, he showed me how to do , and supervised the work.

I have a real healthy respect for electricity, as a kid i made the mistake of stepping (barefoot, of course) on the power feed for my Dads acr welder.
If Dad haden't been in the shop, I would be a cooked kid.
He realized what was going on, and un plugged the thing, but still, I learned that electricians earn every dime they get...any of the stuff I dont understand completly, or have any doubt about, I get professional help with.
Your right, it aint worth the few bucks saved to jack leg it....

We bought the house I sorta grew up in, from my Dad in 90.


So I know where all the mistakes are....

The kitchen had that old square foot floor tiles, white and black, and tile drainboards, also white with black trim.

Old Norge stove/range and icebox, white enamel finish.

But this house was built in the middle 50s, so it was never designed for todays appliances, microwaves were science fiction back then.

One 20 amp breaker runs the entire kitchen, the den, and the garage light and wall plugs.

The three bedrooms and bath on one, and the washer dryer on another, with the last two doing the A/C and a un used 240 wall plug.

So any load beyond simple lamps trips them.

You know, you can run the toaster and the coffee pot, but turn on the dishwasher, or the microwave, and "pop"...

Aimee has been buying these appliances one at a time, as they go on sale, its all the GE Profile series,($500.00 for a trash compactor?) stainless and black.(the fridge is a Maytag, but its build by GE for them) and its something she has wanted done since we bought the palce.

We just about live in the kitchen/breakfast room, so its worth the work.

All joking aside, I like to cook, about the onlything I will miss on the old Norge is the built in griddle, 24" square, made great pancakes, six or so at once!

Been walking around these things sitting in the back room for over a year, got tired of looking at them sitting in boxes, and the time thing worked out, with the kids home from school, extra manual labor!

Ed

[Mookie]

Now! Aren't you glad I went looking for him?

The driver actually makes a living as a cook - but he is a commercial cook at home also! I love that - will have to be sure and rub that under his nose!

Mook!

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Ed:
If you want to live to see your next Harriman Award, you better hope that your beloved isn't reading these forums. It could be more hazardous to your health than that nail gun.

Paul

[Anonymous]

Ed-

Yeah--you really do need to redistribute your load.

AWRIGHT THE REST OF YOU YAHOOS, BEFORE YOU EVEN START IN, I MEAN HIS ELECTRICAL LOAD!![(-D]

Be careful relying on utility linemen. Lots of times they don't know much about proper building wiring techniques. I've seen several cases with bad consequences.

Richter has a book called Practical Electrical Wiring that you can pick up at most mass merchandisers like Home Depot, etc. It is aimed at home and farm electrical systems installed by do-it-yourself types. Might be a good resource just to have.

I'll email you with some stuff that might be useful.

[edblysard]

Thanks, Big D...

Dad in law was a industrial heating/cooling teacher, borrowed his knowledge.
Also have several books,
Electrical Wiring, Residential, 10th edition
by Ray C. Mullin

Industrial Electrical Wiring, 10th edition,
by Robert L. Smith and Stephen L. Herman
and
House Wiring simplified..
by Floyd M. Mix.

Anything I dont understand, I will ask.

Ed

[edblysard]

Paul,
My wife is a Officer of the State of Texas, with the Attorney General's Office, has a conceled handgun permit, a badge, and carries.....
Trust me, the nail gun is the least of my worries!

Ed

[Anonymous]

Ed--

You are well-prepared. Not surprised.

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Paul,
My wife is a Officer of the State of Texas, with the Attorney General's Office, has a conceled handgun permit, a badge, and carries.....
Trust me, the nail gun is the least of my worries!

Ed

Ed

How do you conceal either an air compressor,or a very long extension cord[?][:D]

[jeaton]

Ed

Ran a small pallet plant for a while. The drill was hold the trigger, and tap the nose of the gun to release the safety and fire the nail.

My wife doesn't read the forum. Good thing, she might get an idea on how to keep me from stalling on the "list". Part time retirement job in some area of law enforcement?

Jay

[edblysard]

Jay,
Dont know about you, but when I retire, no part time about it!
Gonna take the rods and reels, buy the boat I want, point it south, and go!

Walt,
Robin Hartel and that wanna be Bob Villa she co host Home Time? with have a neat nail gun, runs on compressed propane, no compressor or cords, just a canister of gas that fits in the handle.

Ed