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Would this set off the DED?

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Would this set off the DED?
Posted by BT CPSO 266 on Monday, February 28, 2011 9:33 PM

I came across this video on youtube. After 3:50 there is something being dragged alongside the work train. Later the videographer mentions that it may have been a plastic pipe.

What ever it was, is it enough to set off the DED and is there a limit to how much a DED can pick up?

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 1:41 PM

Don't know if it will set off the DED or not (it looks like it's running a little wide of the tracks to do that, though).

Somebody's gonna have trouble getting water into their camp car though.  That looked like a fill (ie garden) hose...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 3:05 PM

I agree with Larry...if it's a plastic hose (and I have no reason to doubt the videographer), it's nothing to worry about as far as the dragging-equipment detector is concerned.  As a trackside trainwatcher, though, I wouldn't want to be flogged by that.  If it's dragging wide of the ties, it's probably wide of a detector as well.

I have seen a chain set one off.  They had to stop and stow it on the flat car.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 3:07 PM

Depends on what type of dragger it is. (Paddles, trip wire, light beam, impact sensor, etc.)

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 4:16 PM

That hose would not set off a dragger on our property as the use 'brittle bars' and the is not sufficient mass in the hose to activate them....it could however, trip a wide car detector as they use lasers to identify their limits and the hose would break the beam as it passed the detector.

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Posted by BT CPSO 266 on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 4:45 PM

I always thought the DED had a greater range beyond the tracks. I guess I was wrong.

So large chunk of scrap could be dangling from a scarp train for a while?

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 6:22 PM

If is is just 'dangling' and not imacting the right of way...it isn't dragging.  If a piece of scrap, or anything else with some degree of mass (a cut lever that has become unsecured...for example) will activate Dragging Equipment detectors when they impact or drag across the detector.

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I always thought the DED had a greater range beyond the tracks. I guess I was wrong.

So large chunk of scrap could be dangling from a scarp train for a while?

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Posted by BT CPSO 266 on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 9:53 PM

For some reason I thought there were additional sensors that went beyond the mechanisms on the actual track structure. Oh well now I know.

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Posted by WC#3000 on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 12:53 PM

That is where, I guess, a visual inspection comes into play. Not sure about NS, but here on CN the engineer and conductor of any stopped train are required to get out and inspect both sides of any passing trains, precisely to catch things like that.

There comes a point where good old human intelligence surpasses any technological gadget I suppose.

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