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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:39 PM
espee foamer has it right on--too big, too far out of touch. No doubt.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jruppert

I also firmly believe taxes are the reason companies are moving to other countries. The common complaint is that cheap labor is the reason. Are taxes too high? Probably not, but this is just another way to cut a corner and keep the balance sheet looking good to investors.


Sorry, but this is a GROSS oversimplification of the many factors (including costs of labor, materials, production, management and transportation and others in addition to taxes and other government related costs) that go into a decision to move or outsource corporate facilities.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jruppert

Maybe not. But who buys stock in large american companies?
- Foreign conglomerates.


Another gross over generalization. If you examine most large corporate shareholder books you'll find many more retirement funds, mutual funds, insurance companies and individuals than you will foreign conglomerates as shareholders.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:05 AM
I just read Paul Milenkovic over on "Is it me or....." and I guess he makes a lot of sense what he is saying about the UP's taking over other lines.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:56 AM
It was suggested earlier in this thread that UP should reopen the west half of its Phoenix Line as a relief valve. Nobody would love to see this more than me, but here's the reality. Phoenix to Wellton is ABS/DTC with mostly jointed rail, and had lower track speed than Gila Line. It would take a major investment to make the entire PHX Line (Picacho-PHX-Wellton) as good as the Gila Line, and that money would be better spent linking up the sidings on the Gila Line between Picacho and Wellton. Sure would be nice to see those semaphores west of PHX kicked into action again, though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:05 AM
I'll bet they're singing the lyrics to Tom Petty's song "Break down" in the BNSF head quarters right now...

Breakdown, go ahead and give it to me
Breakdown, take me through the night
Breakdown, go ahead give it to me,
Breakdown, it's alright,
It's alright, it's alright
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 1:36 AM
Clemente's answer just shows to me that this kitchen is too hot for me! I'm gonna take a break and just open my ears until I learn a thing or two.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 2:56 PM
Things seem to be getting a little better. Intermodal departures out of City of Industry were running 12-24hr late, and 72 hours out of LATC just two weeks ago. This week they're pretty much on time. They're still running behind at their destination ramps or junctions, but maybe 12-24 hours late instead of a couple of days.
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Posted by tree68 on Friday, July 16, 2004 3:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jruppert

I have to say first that I do not know much about the business of railroading, and I wish I knew more and maybe in time I will.

On the surface, it seems that with ever increasing focus on unit trains and container frieght, the major railroads have less time for smaller customers.

Maybe a solution would be to separate this type of business from the rest of rail service; a kind of privately run Amtrak for container traffic. This would be analogus to the breakup of Bell telephone, where the service provider is a separate business from the infrastructure owner.

That's pretty much what has been happening - witness all the spinoff shortlines that have cropped up. Switching small local industries is time consuming and expensive. Linehauling unit trains has a much higher rate of return. We can probably blame those money grubbing bean counters for some of that - if a line isn't making money - let it go. Never mind that the line is part of what generates the mainline traffic that does make money. The phenomenon is neither new, nor solely a UP activity.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 8:53 PM
Found this on another forum.

QUOTE:
We're a great big rollin' railroad
One that everyone can see
'Cause we're Usually Parked on sidings
That's why we're called U.P.

We're a million tons of cargo
Just a rottin' in the sun
We're the Union Pacific
And our meltdown's just begun

From the plugged up yard in Roseville
To our mainline filled with cars
It's a big congested mess
Like a railroad version of SARS

We're a thousand wheels of freight train
All being held for power
We're the Union Pacific
Makin' half a mile an hour

Bound from Omaha to Portland
Our customers are in luck
'Cause we're setting out their cargos
To load it all on trucks

With Amtrak stuck in Oakland
And in Denver and L.A.
We're the Union Pacific
And you're not gonna move today

From the Valley to Dunsmuir
We are runnin' out of crews
But we'll deliver your great cargo
'Cause we're usin' DPU's

We're much safer and efficient
All thanks to remote control
We're the Union Pacifc
Our bean counters say it's so

With our copyrighted emblem
We're gonna make 'em bleed
And the beatings will continue
'Til our tired crews succeed

Our investors are all waiting
With the shippers on their knees
We're the Union Pacific
And we'll deliver when we please...

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