toilet on loco

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lone Byrd

OOH! thats just plain nasty! Dont they ever clean that? Shoot i'd take a pale a little *** And Span and that toilet will be as good as new!

You're braver than me, I wouldn't go near that thing. [xx(]

[wabash1]

Now you have seen the toilets of the vacume kind and the chemical toilets are like outhouses with deoderizers. see the mess. now if you have the NS bag system this was not a issue. the bag was tied up and despposed of. all you had was a little room and it was fairly sanitary. just dirty is all. so which is better the mess you seen or the bag system?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

Now you have seen the toilets of the vacume kind and the chemical toilets are like outhouses with deoderizers. see the mess. now if you have the NS bag system this was not a issue. the bag was tied up and despposed of. all you had was a little room and it was fairly sanitary. just dirty is all. so which is better the mess you seen or the bag system?

I can see why the "bag" system perhaps wasn't as bad as I thought, I had no idea washrooms were in the state that they are on locomotives. [xx(]

[mvlandsw]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

NS used a bag until the late 90's but now all NS units have toilets exept switchers.

And now they probably smell as bad as all the other engines that had them before.

[Randy Stahl]

I just looked at the posted photo's. This is a non complying locomotive. Attach a tag to the isolation switch so at least it cannot be used as a lead engine. No one has to tolerate this , just another indication of the fine maintenence intervals the big RR's brag about. I doubt that train personell created this mess, most likely bums.
randy

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

I just looked at the posted photo's. This is a non complying locomotive. Attach a tag to the isolation switch so at least it cannot be used as a lead engine. No one has to tolerate this , just another indication of the fine maintenence intervals the big RR's brag about. I doubt that train personell created this mess, most likely bums.
randy

got news for you.... you CANT shop a locomotive for a bad toilet.... a bad toilet is not a defect that you can shop for.... you can make an issue for not useing it as a leader... but like i said befor... it means switching it out with another loco that you want as a leader..or they just send someone down from the mecheanical department or even a train master with a can of air freshern....and send you on your way....
csx engineer

[wabash1]

the only way you can shop a engine for a toilet is if it wont flush. otherwise like csx says you haft to live with it. ever see a engineer leaning out the window on a not day or a cold one while comming thru town.( conductor also) its a fresh air break . I have tried bad order engines for toilets and as long as the shops can come out and clean out the waste use deoderizers ( i realy dont know which makes you sicker the crap or the overdose of deoderizers) and say its better then you aint bad ordering a engine. what is needed is for crews to not say anything and just go to work get 30 miles out and call for relief. and go to the hospital sick from the fumes. turn in a claim so the saftey records reflect this of lost time injury at work and things will change as the fra will get involved then.

[Randy Stahl]

Well guys, I know your'e right about getting an engine shopped for a toilet but at least a tag on the isolation switch will call attention to the problem. I am a round house foreman and I do my best to make sure the engines are in good shape when they leave my tracks. On this issue I find myself taking the sides of the train crew, maybe it's because I used to run trains and have a little insight as to what the job is like. I'm sorry you guys have to deal with this , It reflects badly on the service track personell myself being one. I guess you guys got to do your best with what they give you but if it were me I would MAKE this engine non-complying, either report a serious loading problem, smoke in the cab( electrical smell), cut out some traction motors. I got a pretty weak stomach so I would'nt last long in that cab. You should see me trying to clean a toilet in this condition! At least we got high pressure washers , I can blast it from 15 feet away.
I,m getting naushea this morning just thinking about it.
Randy

[Rodney Beck]

Hi Randy been treir done that. Rodney conductor BNSF