How do you pronounce "Conneaut?"
James
For clunky, how about that SP predecessor "Houston East & West Texas", the good old HEWT.
It had the memorable nickname "H-e-l-l, Either Way You Take It"!
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
The ButlerHow do you pronounce "Conneaut?"
CShaveRR For clunky, you can't top Seaboard Coast Line. That name came right out of the Department of Redundancy Department!
For clunky, you can't top Seaboard Coast Line. That name came right out of the Department of Redundancy Department!
Probably more from the legal or accounting departments as it was to reflect the merger of the Atlantic Coast Line and Seaboard. I'm hard pressed for a better name which would still describe the route...unless something like Richmond and Southern which clashes with Southern which alread serves the south; Virginia and Florida or Florida and Virginia? Va and Fla? Fla and Va? Na, na. Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida...the Richmond Road? Seaboard Coast Line worked I guess,,,either you were on the Seaboard or on the Coast Line as long as the money got paid to the joint account! But you know, the Atlantic Seaboard would have been nice.
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Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe could go in either category. For a clunker, I submit:
Doniphan Kensett & Searcy Railroad (DKS).
mudchickenAnd the Soo Line. Someone else spell out the full name.
Chicago, Minneapolis and Sault Ste. Marie.
Ste., the french abbreviation of Saint. And yet there are numerous places with french names that use the English, St. I never have figured that one out
BTW Sault is pronounced soo.
Bruce
So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.
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Johnny Mercer had no trouble with the Atchison, Topeka, and Sante Fe...made it into a great song!
AgentKid mudchickenAnd the Soo Line. Someone else spell out the full name. Chicago, Minneapolis and Sault Ste. Marie.
WRONG! Full name before the 1961 merger with WC and DSSA was:
Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie Railroad
Kurt Hayek
henry6Johnny Mercer had no trouble with the Atchison, Topeka, and Sante Fe...made it into a great song!
AgentKidSte., the french abbreviation of Saint. And yet there are numerous places with french names that use the English, St. I never have figured that one out
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tree68'St.' is the masculine. 'Ste.' is the feminine.
Thanks Larry. I have always wondered about that. St. Paul, St. Louis, but who is St. Boniface, as in the town in Manitoba. I'm going to have to look into that.
I was thinking Chicago from the full name of the Milwaukee Road.
Mt Jewett, Kushequa & Riterville RR
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Henry6 says above: "Atlantic Seaboard would have been nice."
Bingo! Longtime Trains readers will remember DPM lamenting the redundancy of SCL and saying the logical choice would have been Atlantic Seaboard Line. The execs of that day weren't stupid ... was Seaboard the ascendant company and insistent on primacy? (My memory fails me here.)
Yeah, I think it was Seaboard power...
'nother clunky name: Pittsburgh and Shawmut or the Shawmut.
blue streak 1 daveklepper And didn't was aways call the MP the Mopack? (But not the Upack, NoPack, nor SouPack.) I remember when the UP proposed merging with MP that many rails called it "MOP-UP" as to what they would do with rest of the industry.
daveklepper And didn't was aways call the MP the Mopack? (But not the Upack, NoPack, nor SouPack.)
And didn't was aways call the MP the Mopack? (But not the Upack, NoPack, nor SouPack.)
I remember when the UP proposed merging with MP that many rails called it "MOP-UP" as to what they would do with rest of the industry.
And let's not forget two of the roads that were consolidated into the Missouri Pacific just before the "Mop-UP" merger: the "Mike & Ike" (Missouri-Illinois) and the "Hook and Eye" (C.& E.I./ Chicago and Eastern Illinois).
"The Once Mighty Chicago, Milwaukee, Saint Paul and Pacific."
Ah, yes. Everytime that phrase leaves my lips, I have a tendency to momentarily speak with a uniquely euphonious, well-modulated tone reminiscent of the cinematic emoting of that late, great vaudevillian, William Claude Dukenfield. To the reader innocent of such an appellation, I am referring to that uniquely entertaining master of the comedic celluloid art, W.C. Fields.
Musical? How about Grand Trunk and Chicago Transit Authority? They were good enough to be borrowed by bands.
Don't you hear that whistle down the line,
I betcha that it's engine number forty-nine.
It's the only one that sounds that way
On the Atchison Topeka and the Santa Fe
Memo to The Butler
re: pronunciation of Conneaut
Conneaut, Ohio is in the northeastern-most part of Ohio's old (Connecticut) Western Reserve, but it takes its name from the creek which begins in Pennsylvania. Therefore, in Ohio we pronounce it Connie-aht. Connie, as in Connie Mack, and aht as in yacht (accent on first syllable).
If one leaves the Western Reserve and enters deepest, darkest Western Pennsylvania, one then walks among a people who speak a language called Pittsburghese. In this language the o sound is pronounced differently and thus their Conneaut (the creek, the lake, etc.) is pronounced Cawny-ought (as in tawney). For example: a man in Conneaut is named Don. In Pittsbughese it's pronounced Dawn; his small bed, or cot, is pronounced as caught. A blend of Pittsburghese and English is found in the marches of Ohio's Mahoning Valley.
I go through Conneaut all the time on The Lake Shore Limited. I have visited there a number of times and I like it.
By the way, the names & clunky names thus far submitted are as fascinating as they are amusing!
dakotafredHenry6 says above: "Atlantic Seaboard would have been nice." Bingo! Longtime Trains readers will remember DPM lamenting the redundancy of SCL and saying the logical choice would have been Atlantic Seaboard Line. The execs of that day weren't stupid ... was Seaboard the ascendant company and insistent on primacy? (My memory fails me here.)
I liked "Atlantic Air Line" used as one for one of the layouts in Wescott's 101 Track Plans.
Beautiful -- Denver and Rio Grande Western
Not so beautiful -- Dirty, Rotten, and Getting Worse (DRGW)
Trainrev Beautiful -- Denver and Rio Grande Western Not so beautiful -- Dirty, Rotten, and Getting Worse (DRGW)
How about "Dangerous and Rapidly Growing Worse" as suggested by someone who's always loved the "Crash, Bounce and Quiver" and one of the latter road's important eastern connections, the "Eerie Lack-o'-money?"
Tallulah Falls RR --- TF -- Total Failure
AgentKidThanks Larry. I have always wondered about that. St. Paul, St. Louis, but who is St. Boniface, as in the town in Manitoba. I'm going to have to look into that.
More like who was St. Boniface. He brought Christianity to the Germans and was killed by them after cutting down one of their most revered trees.
On a different note - the Nevada County Narrow Gauge was usually referred to the Never Come, Never Go...
- Erik
Thanks, Erik.
And as Erik says, on a different note - Toronto Hamilton & Buffalo - To Hell and Back.
Pacific Great Eastern (BCRail/CN) - Prince George Eventually - Pray to God Every Day. This railway traverses some beautiful if hair raising terrain.
AgentKid Thanks, Erik. And as Erik says, on a different note - Toronto Hamilton & Buffalo - To Hell and Back. Pacific Great Eastern (BCRail/CN) - Prince George Eventually - Pray to God Every Day. This railway traverses some beautiful if hair raising terrain. Bruce
Pacific Great Eastern also known as the Please Go Easy.
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