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Posted by selector on Thursday, May 6, 2010 6:30 PM

Okay, it is June - eee - at - uh....right?

Dale, I'm partial to You - CLUE - let.

And Tims, that was something to be proud of.! Cool  The correct (closest I can get) pronounciation is:

Eh - ya - fiAT - la - YOkootch   Don't say it when any social workers are around.  They pack you off.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:09 PM

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Being in the south, how do you think Martinez, GA just outside of Augusta is pronounced?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, May 6, 2010 7:13 PM

     Seriously,  I thought it was Nan-YIGH-Moe.

-Norris   in  Sow-duh-Coe-duh,  the state south of  NORT ! Uh-coat-uh.

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Posted by BNSFwatcher on Thursday, May 6, 2010 8:34 PM

Wow!  This could be fun!  As a multi-lingual (6) army interpreter (all European) it might prove challenging.  I have cousins (Jack & Tess Hanlin) that live in Chaumont, NY, ex-of the New York Central.  Cool place!  Yar, Cajon is the proper spelling.  I hate to transliterate, but "Kay-HONE" is close.  Kind of rhymes with pugga ma hon in Gaidhlig.  Crandell:  For more info, send me some "Naniamo Bars".  It has been a long time since I had one!  P. S.:  I do have a Watertown Times  clipping of the "last train from Clayton"!

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, May 6, 2010 8:41 PM
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How is Juniata pronounced? Also, is it Read-ing or Red-ing Railroad?

Crandell/ selector has Juniata correctly above, as I know it. Reading is "Red-ing" for both the railroad and its namesake city. - Paul North. (just down Mauch Chunk Road from Hokendauqua, Catasauqua, Tamaqua, Nesquehoning, and a few others of like kind . . . ).
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Posted by garr on Thursday, May 6, 2010 9:28 PM

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garr

Being in the south, how do you think Martinez, GA just outside of Augusta is pronounced?

Jay

Jay:

I am not sure of the Georgia-correct pronunciation, I would suspect that it is all about a long aaaaaaa!

I had enough of a time when my neighbors pronounced "Faye'vil" for Fayetteville, and I pretty much gave up on Atlanta, and it was Hot-Lanta or shortly "ATL" in e-mail correspondence, VI-day- Li-a (my favorite onion) was Va-dal-ya to the locals. 

  It's a great country ( or COUNTRIES, with A TIP O THA' HAT TO  DALE& CRANDELL), Bow

if you don't let its' linguistic Idiosyncrasies drive you over the edge!LaughLaughSmile,Wink, & Grin

 

 

James and Sam,

As far as Martinez, GA--the i is totally disregarded so it is pronounced Mart--nez. One of those words that identifies visitors.

 

Now try Taliaferro which is a county here in Georgia roughly half way between Atlanta and Augusta.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, May 6, 2010 11:36 PM

I'm guessing the I is silent...

We can't forget "Dew-rand", either.

Not far from here is Madrid - in this case pronounced "Mad-drid," emphasis on the first syllable.

Also not far from here is Lowville.  The "ville" is normal, but the "low" is pronounced "lau", not "lo" with a long O.  It was on the Utica & Black River (which mileposts are still used today) as well as being one end of the Lowville & Beaver River, now part of the GVT family, if inactive.

Chaumont was on the original main of the Rome and Watertown, predecessor to the Rome, Watertown and Ogdensburg, which at one time ran many of the rails north of today's NYS Thruway and west of the Adirondacks.  The RW&O joined the Central family around 1900 or so.

 

 

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, May 7, 2010 1:37 AM

Anyone (Sam?) happen to know why Kansas and Arkansas don't rhyme? Since Arkansas was a territory in 1819, and Kansas not until 1854, surely everyone in Kansas already knew how Arkansas was pronounced?

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Posted by aricat on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:01 AM

When sitting in the Worcester Massachusetts station in 1952 on The New England States I learned how to properly pronounce this city; and that I was on the B&A not NYC according to the conductor.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:32 AM

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Juniata Locomotive Shops

How is Juniata pronounced? Also, is it Read-ing or Red-ing Railroad?

Crandell/ selector has Juniata correctly above, as I know it. Reading is "Red-ing" for both the railroad and its namesake city. - Paul North. (just down Mauch Chunk Road from Hokendauqua, Catasauqua, Tamaqua, Nesquehoning, and a few others of like kind . . . ).

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Posted by dmoore74 on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:52 AM

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When sitting in the Worcester Massachusetts station in 1952 on The New England States I learned how to properly pronounce this city; and that I was on the B&A not NYC according to the conductor.

While not a station stop, the first town you passed through west of Worcester was Leicester (less-ter).  A little further west you would also run parallel to the Quaboag (kway-bog) River.

 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:53 AM

nanaimo73

Anyone (Sam?) happen to know why Kansas and Arkansas don't rhyme? Since Arkansas was a territory in 1819, and Kansas not until 1854, surely everyone in Kansas already knew how Arkansas was pronounced?

Actually, in Colorado, Arkansas (the river) and Kansas do rhyme.  This is according to my mother, who worked for the VA in Fort Lyon in 1949-1950.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, May 7, 2010 8:00 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
Actually, in Colorado, Arkansas (the river) and Kansas do rhyme.

Don't tell that to people from Arkansas (the state).  They tend to be a little touchy about that.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 7, 2010 8:15 AM

Dale:

        The Kansas pronunciation of Arkansas is 'ARE' Kansas'. I live near the ARE Kansas River- and growing up around Memphis; I guess I've mistakenly pronounced  'Ar ken Saw' most all my life. But I'm adjusting-slowlyDunce

       I'm still having problems with 'cricks', vs. creeks-- and am ,I now live on Euphrates Crick!Whistling

    I can only imagine what it must be like up in the far Northwest!  I am sure what the Indians diden't name the Eskimos; did....and then you have to deal with the unreconstructed french who won't even try to speak anything but their own French.Alien

     I used to go down into the Evangeline Country of Louisiana, pretty often. Most of those folks were anxious to go up to french speaking Canada. Their biggest disappointment was finding out, when 'up there', their brand of French was unintelligible to the Canadian Francophiles.  It was the collision of French, and English and the resultant idioms were something of a calamity.Confused      You might refer to the results as kind of a Franglish....Grumpy       Maybe, some day the CN will be able to aford to hire a crew to paint their cars and they can paint both sides the same...I guess, that's like getting the FrenchBlindfold to work with those illegals who only speak English!Sign - Oops                 MischiefMischief

 

 


 

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, May 7, 2010 1:01 PM

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But I give him credit for having taught me that Lancaster, CA, and Lancaster, PA, don't sound the same.

I grew up in LANCaster county, S. C., and when I was living in Pickens county (named for Andrew Pickens, an S. C. patriot) in Alabama, I met some LanCASTers whose forebears had come form S. C. in the early nineteenth century.

Larry, thank you for the pronunciation of Gananoque (We have some pronunciation headaches around here - both from the French and the native American place names - Chaumont (sha MOE) and Gananoque (gan an AH quay) are two often massacred by "furriners."); I would never have guessed it.

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Posted by baberuth73 on Friday, May 7, 2010 1:34 PM

If you ever find youself in Columbia, S.C. we have a couple of streets that have French names, Gervais and Huger. Whenever the local TV stations hire a midwesterner to read the news I wonder why someone from the station doesn't give these folks some sort of orientation before putting them on the air. There seems to be a rule that no one that speaks with a Southern accent will be employed as a so called TV journalist (news reader).

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, May 7, 2010 2:49 PM

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There seems to be a rule that no one that speaks with a Southern accent will be employed as a so called TV journalist (news reader).

I call it the "Jeff Foxworthy Effect."  If you speak with a southern accent, you must be an uneducated rube.

I once read an article about accents that pointed out this in one movie ("Fried Green Tomatoes?") the four protagonists (all women) spoke with different southern accents, although I don't recall what they were.  There are actually some variations that are quite pleasant to hear, but others, well...

 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, May 7, 2010 4:17 PM

baberuth73

If you ever find youself in Columbia, S.C. we have a couple of streets that have French names, Gervais and Huger. Whenever the local TV stations hire a midwesterner to read the news I wonder why someone from the station doesn't give these folks some sort of orientation before putting them on the air. There seems to be a rule that no one that speaks with a Southern accent will be employed as a so called TV journalist (news reader).

And, if you go down to Charleston (CHAHLston), you find some more names, such as Legare (LuhGREE) and S. Battery (BAHtry). Upcountry and Lowcountry folks talk differently. Columbia, being below the Fall Line, is Lowcountry.

As to different southern accents, I have noticed a great difference as to what is spoken in Charlotte, N. C., and in Baton Rouge, and what is spoken in Reform, Ala., and Columbus, Miss. (30 miles apart).

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Posted by Eric97123 on Friday, May 7, 2010 4:26 PM

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As to different southern accents, I have noticed a great difference as to what is spoken in Charlotte, N. C., and in Baton Rouge, and what is spoken in Reform, Ala., and Columbus, Miss. (30 miles apart).

 

I grew up in Georgia and now live in Oregon and when I hear a someone with a southern accent  I can almost always get what state they are from.  And even going back to visit family in Georgia I can hear the accent when growing up I would have said they did not have not one.

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Posted by YoHo1975 on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:23 PM
I grew up in River Forest Il. A near west suburb of Chicago. I moved first to Beaverton Or, Then to Carlsbad Ca, Now back in Beaverton. About a week into my job down in Carlsbad, the guy in the office next to mine stopped in and said. I bet you're from the Chicago Suburbs. (I nodded yes) West side? Maybe LaGrange?

After I picked my mouth up from the floor I said. " River Forest a bit east of LaGrange, how could you tell?" "Oh, my wife's from Downer's Grove, I recognized the accent."

Now, I know there's a midwest accent, and I know there's a Chicago Southside accent and I'll even buy into a more generic Chicago accent, but I had no friggin idea that there was such a thing as a west side Chicago suburban accent. And I have no idea what specifically my accent is. Although I do know that a mark of my Midwesterness is that I call Interstates and grade seperated Highways expressways instead of freeways.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:31 PM

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now live in Oregon


     Just curious, is it pronounced Ore-eh-gon, or ORE-gone?  I've met people from there who were agast that we would say Ore-eh-gon.

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Posted by Eric97123 on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:41 PM

It ain't gone no where  Big Smile  we say Or-e-gen  and also, Washington is Washington, they know it is a state so you dont have to say Washington State...

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Posted by selector on Friday, May 7, 2010 5:52 PM

I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:00 PM

Eric97123

It ain't gone no where  Big Smile  we say Or-e-gen  and also, Washington is Washington, they know it is a state so you dont have to say Washington State...

I would think that someone from the Beautiful State of WashingtonCowboy, would want to make certain,

 and crystal clear, they were NOT from Washington, D.C.  [2c]

Possibly, Eleanor Roosevelt is still foggy?

 

 


 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:03 PM

selector

I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

-Crandell

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 7, 2010 6:05 PM

selector

I believe in my distant past I heard someone, a middle-aged American male, say "Warshingten."  Was I hearing things, or if it is a pronunciation common to a population somewhere in the USA, from where was this person?

-Crandell

  Worsh-in-ton.  Upper plains.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, May 7, 2010 7:56 PM
A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.
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Posted by spokyone on Friday, May 7, 2010 10:47 PM

 In Conway Arkansas, on the Arkansas River, is Toad Suc Park. A local told me it was a French derivation of Sugar Shack. Another local told me that river captains would go to a bar and suck on a bottle until they swelled up like toads. They have a Toad Suck festival every year.

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Posted by The Butler on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:41 AM

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A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.

The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

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Posted by dmoore74 on Saturday, May 8, 2010 6:41 AM

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Paul_D_North_Jr
A few years ago I heard a late-night radio show - maybe Jim Bohannon ? - when he had on a linguist from a major northeastern university - I forget which one. Anyway, he said that by listening to a person pronounce a few key words, or name what they were being shown in a picture - "crick" vs. "creek", "soda" vs. "pop", etc. - he could figure out where someone was from to within 25 to 50 miles or so on the East Coast and built-up areas east of the Mississippi, and within 100 miles or so in the western US. Of course, us itinerant Americans wandering and moving around every couple of years and hybridizing and mongrelizing the accents and inflections and idioms, etc. would make that more difficult, I suppose. - Paul North.

The "soda" vs. "pop" is taken a step farther where I live.  Here it is so-da vs. so-dee.

I am, also, amused by "you" vs. "yous" vs. "y'all."

Reading over what I just wrote, is it far-ther or fur-ther?

Of course you can be in the metropolitan Boston area where "soda" becomes "tonic".

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