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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:21 AM
When I was a boy 8-10 I got rides on the wey freight that ran from Saint
John to Sussex.I lived in Brookville where my dad worked at Brookville lime.
one day the engineer gave me a shot at the controls of the RS-10.I was kindly
told what to do ..even blew the whistle at the crossing.

Lives are so lost
when safety is last.

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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:33 AM
cherokee woman

not only would you reach the horn you wont haft to move out of the seat. you take your left hand off the throttle move it to the left about 18 inches and pull down on the little silver handle and make all the noise you want. and if it is a desk top then move your left hand to the left 7inches and pu***he button.

mookie
I only use the mirror on desk tops for looking for the conductor brake man on shove moves. otherwise the conductor uses the mirror all the time hair doo or what ever.

will in tyron
and its a attitude like your after being told what will and can happen that you wonder why most railroad employees wont give a person a look in the cab a ride or even let them stay on the property. its guys like you i turn in so i can keep my job. If mookie showed up i would carry her on to my engine i know she wouldnt do anything to lose my job. or cherokee woman. you have a lot to learn about railroading and the way they operate. that is the reason you was on the property is the trainmaster ( not the boss) wasnt there,
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Posted by eolafan on Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:41 AM
As the oldies song goes (Everly Brothers, I believe)..."All I have to do is dream...dream, dream, dream".
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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Ed, you're calling the SD40-2's control stand "old"?

But your "old" control stand is the newest I've actually operated...I think they called the EMD's "oil drum" stands until an early version of the standardized stand came into use during the late 1950s. And I loved the wrench-style reverse lever and loooong throttle handles on Alcos!

Carl-do you remember the 24RL brale valve? How about a 6BL? Not to metion the complications when trying to MU units with multiple brake valve types.

And how about the unique reverser of a FM-H switcher (throttle and reverser were all-in-one: a "U" shaped [laying on it's'side with the legs pointing to the left] path for the throttle-reverser; throttle advanced in the "up" position made the loco go back, throttle advanced in the "low" position caused the loco to go forward).

Now I feel old.
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Posted by ClinchValleySD40 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:08 AM
Retired engineer. I've run everything from F7's up to SD40-2.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:13 AM
I didn't know the first thing about the various brake schedules when I was operating these things...and never had more than one unit to worry about. I do know that some of the brake stands (separate from the rest of the controls) looked and sounded different from others.

That FM throttle/reverser sounds fascinating. I remember CNW's FMs being used out of Proviso on occasion (and a yard crew having to give their train a pu***o get it out of town!), but was never in a cab or close enough to enjoy the FMs' peculiar sound (which I've heard only on recordings).

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Posted by rrnut282 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:16 AM
I got to operate an Alco S-2 back and forth on a yard track that had a grade crossing in it. I also rode in the cab of an SD-10. Someday, I would like to do that again.
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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:54 AM
Running a freight train is alot of fun. I gave up my job as an engineer several years ago. I was tired of being treated like a second class citizen. I wanted to have a little bit of a life away from the RR but working 6+1 made that all but impossible. The managers would try real hard to fire you, I have crohns disease and the stress of putting up with idiot managers didn't do me any good so I went back to the shopcrafts, for me it was a good choice. I still get to hostle alot of power around and the job is much more rewarding.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:21 PM
clear to stop to a restricting,in the hole again dangit!!!!....yes many times prefer the sd 70
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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:51 PM
When I was a kid I used to dream about running subway trains and streetcars, but not about locomotives . Well one day when I was about 14 or 15 and photographing the Bailey Avenue trolley line in The Bronx (one car every 45 minutes), the motorman saw we had only one passenger, a friend, and suggested I give it a try. Which I did, and with his kindly Irish accented instruction I did pretty well . Fast forward to age 25 when I joined the Branford Trolley Museum and had the refresher instruction from Bill Ritchitelli, and passed my first test and then regularly operated streetcars, and then rapid transit cars, and finally the one freight electric trolley locomotive. But backtrack to age 20-21, when I was doing my thesis work at MIT on diesel locomotive load regulator controls and regularly rode GP-7's 1567 and 1568 on the Boston and Main, leaving North Station at 4PM on the Portsmouth, NH, Passenger, and returning on the frieght to Sommerville Yard. One night, leaving Newburyport, the hogger said: "Dave, you've watched me often enough, how would you like to run for awhile?" I jumped at the opportunity and did fine except for one thing: At the top of the first grade I began to notch back on the throttle, but the hogger was right there with his hand around mine saying, "We may be going downhill but most of the train is still going uphill." I never forgot that lesson. About age 44 I was in charge of an Electric Railroaders' Assocation fan trip and on the No. 6 Pelham Bay line the "Motor Instructor" had me run the train, five car IRT, four low-voltage motors and a "Steinway" trailer in the middle, from Hunts Pont Avenue Subway Station up the grade to the Elders Lane (Elberts Lane?) elevated station in the Bronx. I made two station stops on the way just for the show and at all three stops made smooth stops at the "6 cars" markers, so I got better than a passing grade.
On a busines trip to South Africa in the 1980's my host gave me tour of the "steam sheds" at Capitol Park, Praetoria, and the forman let me operate a 4-8-0, "the engine that switches the Blue Train", from the shed to the sanding and coaling docks. So I can say I ran a streetcar before I learned to drive an auto.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 3:49 PM
yes. i ran sw. engs. m.l.frgs.&pass.trains ins.c. ga. & n.fla.over a peroid of 45years for sal scl'sbd.and csx
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 4:14 PM
in response to running a wide body backward IT IS UNSAFE and i have refused to do so 2 or 3 times in the last year. they were not happy but made other arangements.as long as no one complaims it will happen again. i am now retired now so i do not have to worry about it any more.
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Posted by joseph2 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:49 PM
I have operated a Plymouth and a 35 Ton GE at a grain elevator.My longest train was 27 mtys.Engineer runs the throttle and airbrakes,brakeman does most of the work. Joe G.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:28 PM
wabash1,

First of all I didn't just "show up" as you put it at the train yard. I was invited to come there on that particular day by the employee who works there who completely knew the risks of letting me come to the yard. This event was not planned around the "trainmaster" (he called him his boss*, so that's why I decided to refer to him as the boss and used it more as a figure of speech, but since you are the expert and want to be technical about it...) not being there on that particular day. I only learned once I had arrived there that the boss' wife had passed away earlier that week and he hadn't been there for the past few days. The employee said that he might possibly show up later that day. I questioned him about his boss coming and if the both of us wouldn't get in trouble for my being there, but he wasn't concerned about it. The man was still nice enough to walk me out and let me take a look at the engines idling in the yard. He climbed the steps up onto the front of a Dash 9 while I stood below watching what he was doing when he said, "what are you waiting for, come on up here." I was taken aback by not only getting into the yard to start with, but being allowed into the cab. I was even more surprised after that when he even let me take control and getting to run the locomotive back a few yards and then back forward.

I also don't sit around and ponder why railroad employees won't let people onto railroad property or into the cabs. I understand why most don't let you do it is because of the risk involved, not only to everyone's safety, but for the risk of losing them losing their job. I've never just shown up at a yard and demanded to be let onto private property to look at the trains or asked for a cab ride while I was there. I would have never even been there on that day if the employee hadn't asked me to come so he could show me around. I questioned him about me being there after seeing all of the "No Trespassing" signs (before there was even mention of his boss) as I came in and if it would be okay, but he said not to worry about it and that it would be alright for me to be there. This was before I had even crossed a single track.

So, before you start preaching to me about railroad operations and regulations get the facts straight about what happened. I only wish you had been there wabash1 to tell me that I might have lost him his job since I was forcing him to allow me to stay on the property and for me to get in the cab, and since he had absolutely nothing to do with it at all. And by all means, don't let me onto your engine; I'm sure I would lose you your job somehow, and we can't have that now, can we?


*boss - [ bawss, boss ]

noun (plural boss·es)

1. somebody in charge: somebody who is in charge of others, especially in a work environment
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Posted by XG01X on Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:58 PM
I got behind th controls of a MILW. Road NW2 with a 5 car consist
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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:18 PM
Never operated, but ridden in both steam and diesel. The power you feel going through
the cab is amazing. My favorite was an f-unit cab, the sound of first generation power is
teriffic.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 8:20 AM
How and the hell can you drive a train?,It like sounds so stupid......Drive a train.DUU.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 9:13 AM
you guys probably wont beleave me, but i have driven a real steam engine.

you guys wana talk about power try a huge pacific. that thing is amazing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 9:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

cherokee woman

that is the reason you was on the property is the trainmaster ( not the boss) wasnt there,



hay wabash1 if you are going to be so corect and such a jerk about every thing than you should atleast use propor english!!!!1[}:)][}:)] "that is the reason you was an the property" WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 9:29 AM
STUPID WASHBOSH OOPS PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME WANT TO SHOUT@#$%@#$@%#!@%$#@^%@$#@%^@%&^%@*^&%@*&^%$%@*&^%@*&^$^%@$&^@%$&@@^&%*&^%*@*&%#*&^$*&%&*@^%$*#&^($*&^)#^%*^#%*&^$%*&%54&^$#@&^$#&@^%#$&@^$@&^%#$&@^#%$@&^%$@&^$@&%$&@^$&@^$@#%*@&%%$$#^%$@#!@#$%!@#$%^&@#$%^@#$%^&@#$%^$#$#*&%#$&^$#&^##@$#&^$#$#&$#$#^%#$%#$#^%$#$#^%$#%$#^%$#^%$#^$#$%#^%$##
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Posted by Hugh Jampton on Friday, June 18, 2004 11:06 AM
hhmmmmmmmm..... most bizarre.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:11 PM
QUOTE: hay wabash1 if you are going to be so corect and such a jerk about every thing than you should atleast use propor english!!!!1 "that is the reason you was an the property" WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG


Be quiet! Talk about not using proper English!!! Its Hey, not Hay, at least, not atleast, proper, not propor, English, not english, I only saw one thing he mispelled and he was RIGHT.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:12 PM
Never operated a train but I have sat in the engineers seat of a R.I. RS1!!
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Posted by Mookie on Friday, June 18, 2004 12:34 PM
Gonna go get my big box of rocks....war pending - excitement afoot!

Dig up Missoury!!!!!

Moo

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 18, 2004 1:18 PM
<Slingshot and marbles all accounted for - ready for action>

Did I ever tell you about the time I rode on a hopper all the way from - no wait, that was another flame war (and I haven't...)

What is, is, and what's already happened is over and done - right, wrong, indifferent. Let it rest.

BTW - the local trainmaster HAS invited me to the yard. I just haven't made it up there yet... Don't think I'll get a ride, but at least I'll be there on an invite...

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, June 18, 2004 1:32 PM
OK - you pushed me into it. I have a possible ride. Pending. In the works. Maybe. I don't know for sure yet. Possibility.

Maybe sometime around the middle of July - but then again.

But if I get within paw print of an engine - you all will be the first to know!

Stay Tuned! [}:)]

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, June 18, 2004 1:38 PM
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Friday, June 18, 2004 6:42 PM
Yeah I don't like it when people break into our forums, groups, and our circle of railfans around the nation...just to **** us off, we have been down the road of "propor inglish" with DOGGY and csxengineer. I don't think any of us want to go through that again...as for Error, I hope he doesn't find any of our other groups such as NAME WITHHELD and the forum NAME WITHHELD and our trusty chat room WITHHELD. Thank you all for your time and good day.

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Friday, June 18, 2004 6:43 PM
Oh yeah...and I've driven several locomotives...I get payed every day to do so. [:D]

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Friday, June 18, 2004 7:28 PM
To UPTRAIN
I noticed that you are from SE Mo. I have spent some time in Cape Girardau on buisness. A friend of mine is road foreman on the BNSF and he got me some side work at the SEMO port RR. Got the grand tour of the area including Thebes and the ILMO bridge. I thought that area to be very interesting with lots of history, Cairo Ill. makes me sad though, what a mess, and so much history to boot.
Randy Stahl

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