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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, June 21, 2010 10:22 AM

I don't have anything exciting to report today either.  I haven't even seen any tracks in what seems like at least 3 weeks...been too busy working on the house and with Aedan and my job (present one anyway).  One of my irons in the fire cooled unexpectedly...which put a damper on things last week...this morning I found that another may heat up that I didn't expect to.  Funny how things work out.  Hi ho...

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, June 21, 2010 11:52 AM

CShaveRR
an Infiniti M45--a very nice car,

Oh, yes, and a very capable one.....A sport sedan of high degree.  $50,000 plus.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, June 21, 2010 12:38 PM
Daughter and grandchildren met us for lunch at the Main Street Cafe in Lombard. It's right on the busiest corner downtown, so lots of action to keep two-year-old Nico satisfied--fire engines (there's a fire department building a block or so away), trucks, buses, and trains (we had a coal train, an empty coal train and a scoot go through while we had a late breakfast/early lunch). Nico still gets excited at just about anything that moves, but he's learning to tone it down just a bit.

The girls were well-behaved, too--and I'm now the proud owner of three poster-sized Father's Day greetings, one from each of the kids. They were sorry for missing the day yesterday, but had had a rough time the night before, and were coming home from central Wisconsin (Green Lake, Dan--ought to be somewhat familiar to you, I suspect).

Larry, questions were asked you about how your two-year-old grandchild has reacted to the new arrival. I think that Emily (who had just turned two when Nico was born) was always ready for him, and has smothered him with affection right from the start. Sometimes that smothering looks like it'll lead to suffocation, but things are changing--Nico is talking a little, so Emily talks to him a bit more, but I think she's in for a surprise whenever Nico is big enough to enforce his wishes for Emily to back off a little on the hugs (around the neck) and smooches.

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, June 21, 2010 3:07 PM

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three bands of thunderstorms go through here yesterday

 

I have had a fascinating past few days following the news and weather. As mentioned on today's Newswire, CP has had one of several washouts at Irvine, AB on Friday, about 25 miles west of our old station at Hatton, SK.

I was sort of listening to the 11:00 PM news on Friday, when I heard that they had to evacuate the hospital at Maple Creek, SK, 19 miles east of Hatton. This jolted me awake like I had stuck my finger in an electric socket. That there would be enough water, in one place, anywhere in that area to require an evacuation would be like hearing about an ice cap forming over the Mojave Desert, to use an American reference.

As a result of all this, I have had a couple of really interesting conversations with my mother, about that area, over the past couple of days. She was so concerned about a shallow lake north and east of Hatton that you would think she was still living there. It is the type of situation where if the water level rose about a foot, the surface area of the lake would increase by several square miles.

As mentioned in the Newswire story, the area is so arid that Hatton is now listed on the Ghost Towns of Saskatchewan website.

Since the branchline era has ended, there is also no easy detour route available anymore. As an example, to get around a 1.8 mile flooded section on the Trans-Canada Highway, the only detour fit for commercial trucks is 120 miles long. That is only a fraction of what the railway detour distance is going to be.

I have a feeling I am going to be a real news junkie before this mess is cleared up.

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:07 AM

Through the miracle of VCR technology I was able to look at all three networks late news programs. It seems the folks in the flood areas may have dodged a bit of a bullet today. There was not as much new rain today as had been forecast. They do however still have big problems.

There was one amazing scene. A reporter was interviewing a flooded out resident and in the background was a CP railroad track suspended in midair above and behind them. That is going to take a terrific amount of fill to get that track back on solid ground. This is not going to be an easy thing to fix.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:13 AM
Stormy weather all over the place this past week, it seems. The CSX line in my old stomping grounds suffered a washout from the storms Friday night (on the grade from New Richmond to East Saugatuck--a line that has sometimes required helpers). Freights on the route were delayed; Amtrak was reportedly cancelled for a day. Sigh

Bruce, the flooding in your area is hard for me to visualize--rising lake levels, massive washouts. These are not your typical "gully-washers"!

Might get in a little railfanning today in Joliet, on one side or the other of a very important appointment. May be able to share some details this evening.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:30 AM
I almost forgot...today is Joe Kohnen's birthday. Nice round number, which I won't mention, but he's ten years over the age that we were once admonished to "never trust anyone over"! Have a great day, Joe...weather permitting!

(Joe shares a birthday with my younger daughter Linda. She lives in California with her husband these days, but I still fondly remember when she was my favorite travel and railfanning companion.)

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Posted by AgentKid on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:46 AM

CShaveRR
These are not your typical "gully-washers"!

There is a great story in the local paper there, about a man who actually witnessed about 200 metres of roadbed being washed away.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/story/disaster-unfolded-mans-eyes

Also there is a picture, with what I always thought was a great expression coined by either Mudchicken or Railwayman, of four "expensive big yellow machines". They don't seem to hardly be making a dent in the problem. I swear I am going to have to go to "News Junkie Rehab" after this is all over.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:13 PM
Well, that one was a gully-washer!

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:19 PM

Getting rocked here on the western shore of Chesapeake Bay.  Methinks the Eastern Shore is in for it worse, though.  Mostly a lot of lights and noise here, with a little rain.  A couple of reports of trees and wires down in the area.

SoapBoxI'm beginning to wonder about the bi-weekly photo contest.  I get the impression that Alex could submit a picture of a pot-bellied stove when the topic was big Diesels, and he'd still draw votes.  This edition is particularly off, since the topic was "broadsides" and he submitted a wedge shot, which a lot of people seem to like "because they like F units".  Maybe it's the readers that are having the problem.

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Posted by spokyone on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:27 PM

 Barbara & I drove around Mercer & Warren counties today looking for very tall corn. Very few fields are tall. The places that normally have good crops have had too much rain. Fields with even slightly low spots are flooded. We saw many creeks out of their banks. I saw a meet between Monmouth & Burlington today. It's been a while.

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:19 AM

CShaveRR
Well, that one was a gully-washer!

 

It seems as though most of the excitement is over down at Medicine Hat and area. They have gone into what is being called the recovery and restoration phase.

The mayor of Medicine Hat has said this flood is the first of this type in the city's history. All previous floods have been caused by heavy rain upstream and then a big head of water roars through town and leaves a big mess behind. This time the rain dropped straight down on them (42% of their annual rainfall in 3 days) and turned all of the creeks that flow into the South Saskatchewan River into rivers' as well. The area has 17 bridges damaged or destroyed in a city of 60,000. I believe this would include RR bridges as well.

But there was two kinds of flooding. The first was what I described above, down in the valley. The second type is all the water standing around on the flatland's for 60 or so miles east of the city over to Maple Creek, SK. That is where the first washout occurred on the CPR mainline at Irvine, AB. The first 30 or so miles through Irvine over to Walsh, AB is farmed. They can do it by depending on winter snow melt to get them through the summer. The next 30 miles or so over to Maple Creek is normally so dry you can't do anything with it. That is the area where the Trans-Canada Highway has collapsed into a sink hole. All this moisture is bound to have weird effects on all the area soils including the CPR ROW. The highway is closed indefinitely.

The CP website is now saying that the route from Medicine Hat through Lethbridge to Calgary should open by the weekend. The mainline from Swift Current through Maple Creek and Medicine Hat to Calgary should reopen next week. Also movements of perishable domestic and international containers has been suspended across Canada except from eastern shipping points to Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Edmonton. They want to restore system fluidity before they resume these operations.

All in all it has been a very interesting week.

Bruce

 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:49 PM
They may want to bring the business back eventually, but "fluidity" is probably the last thing they want to hear about, considering how much of the roadbed was fluidized.

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The nicest thing about our trip yesterday was that my wife spent a good 40 minutes with me on a bench outside the depot at Joliet, doing nothing but watching trains (no book to read, no knitting to do). That time was good for three BNSF trains, a UP hopper train, and a Metra scoot (I think they're called scoots on the RI line, too). Missed another freight which went through as we were walking back to our appointment.

On the way home, we caught a UP coal train backing into the Commonwealth Edison plant at Romeoville from the connection with the CN around Crest Hill. There was a DP unit on the leading end, so I assume that the move was controlled, or at least guided, from that unit. It's a pretty long move, since we caught both ends of the train on the spur, and it was moving the whole while.

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We had a severe thunderstorm watch this morning, which was pretty much of a fizzle for us (only 0.3 inch of rain at our house over several hours). So Ma Nature is going to try again--we're under a tornado watch for this evening.

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Posted by Willy2 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:10 PM

tree68

SoapBoxI'm beginning to wonder about the bi-weekly photo contest.  I get the impression that Alex could submit a picture of a pot-bellied stove when the topic was big Diesels, and he'd still draw votes.  This edition is particularly off, since the topic was "broadsides" and he submitted a wedge shot, which a lot of people seem to like "because they like F units".  Maybe it's the readers that are having the problem.

If we still had the ditto smiley, I'd use it. I've also noticed that Alex seems to win the majority of the contests, just by submitting photos of steam engines in the snow. Those shots look nice, but we're supposed to vote based on the shot's relevance to the theme, not necessarily based on how pretty it is, or what kind of locomotive is pulling the train. I'm trying to figure out how he's winning this week with a wedge shot, when the theme was "broadsides." It ain't fittin'.

Carl - Looks like Chicago is getting hammered again. You'll have to fill me in on the details!

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:19 PM

CShaveRR
but "fluidity" is probably the last thing they want to hear about, considering how much of the roadbed was fluidized

 

LaughLaughI never even thought of it when I read the website or wrote my post, but the moment I saw the word fluidity in quotes I started laughing so hard I had to stop reading the rest of the sentence. I bet the guy who wrote those notices for the website got ribbing/abuse for the rest of the day. He will no doubt be known as "Sloshy" or something similar for the rest of his days on the CPRBig Smile

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:05 PM
Willy2
Carl - Looks like Chicago is getting hammered again. You'll have to fill me in on the details!
Details so far: in about two hours or less, we had an inch and a quarter of rain, very quickly--strong winds took fair-sized branches off some neighborhood trees (I think Aurora reported a gust of around 78 m.p.h.), and some of these branches were seen floating past our house in the street (rain volume from the schoolground across the street was enough to raise whitewater ripples by our driveway!). There was also some hail (I wasn't looking out, but heard it). The first tornado-warning trapezoid began just east of Lombard and widened out from there. The worst of this particular storm seemed to go east down the BNSF corridor, so all rush-hour trains on that line were brought to a stop, for about 15 minutes.

A second wave has announced itself with plenty of fireworks, but not much added rainfall so far. I may have to sweep off the driveway before I can go to work tomorrow.

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You mean the "dito" smiley? I agree--sounds almost like Chicago politics! I noticed that a lot of the shots weren't broadsides, and some weren't even close. As far as I was concerned, that disqualified 'em for me.

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Posted by spokyone on Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:19 AM

 I picked this up on the AP wire: From Spain.

A train speeding through a seaside rail station plowed into a group of youths taking a shortcut across the tracks to get to a beach party, killing at least 12, injuring 14 and turning a festive night meant to welcome the start of summer into one of carnage and tragedy, officials and witnesses said Thursday.

The youths _ at least some of them described as Latin American immigrants _ got off a commuter train in the beach resort of Castelldefels outside Barcelona shortly before midnight Wednesday to head to the party. About 30 climbed down off the platform and tried to scurry across the tracks instead of using an underpass to leave the station, witnesses said.

Seconds later, a long-distance train that was not scheduled to stop at the station barreled into the youths at high speed, its whistle shrieking.

So sad

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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:59 AM

Darn Shame!

                        Looks like the ability to act stupidly around railroad tracks is a universal problem, not only here. But other countries, as well. 

It is sad about theose who were killed immediately, but likely the toll will rise(?).

 

 


 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:10 PM
Yeah--no reason to assume that the loss of focus or situational awareness happens only here. Is it stupidity that makes people lose focus, or loss of focus that tragically made these people stupid?

Update on last night's weather: there was one EF-1 tornado in the area, and lots of linear winds. Hail the size of apples fell in some places surprisingly close to us (Oak Brook). Not only the BNSF Metra trains, but those of UP West were halted during the tornado warnings. The wife of one of my coworkers was stranded at Ogilvie for a short time (reportedly lots of people used the delay to visit stores and purchase liquid refreshment, creating a Par-ty Train on the way home).

My phone was out at work today (weather, perhaps, but why only me?), so I couldn't make many of the contacts I needed to. Hope it's better tomorrow. We did well at work, cleaning out a trashed classification bowl, and reducing the receiving-yard count at the same time. Two of the departure tracks were still under water this morning, we heard. Hump conductor again admits to learning something valuable from me (glad something rubbed off before it's too late!).

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, June 25, 2010 12:22 PM

If anyone's missing their favorite GTW GP it's probably hiding in Neenah, WI.  There was a sea of blue and red this morning as I dropped my son off at the sitters.  Thought I saw some EJE orange too...but it could have been the sun.

Warmer and a bit more humid today, chance of storms tonight.  The new lawn (1500 square feet) is starting to sprout and should be sorta safe to walk on in a week.  My garden is going crazy with all the rain and sun we've been alternating with lately.  Soon I'll have tons of taters, corn, and beans.  Currently munching on some fresh raspberries...yea!

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Posted by zardoz on Friday, June 25, 2010 2:20 PM

CShaveRR
My phone was out at work today (weather, perhaps, but why only me?)

Maybe your tower took a small zap during the storm.  Did everything else still work? (You know, the important stuff--microwave, fridge, etc)
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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, June 25, 2010 4:16 PM
My relief confirmed that the phone went out during the storm (it was back this morning, finally!). It wouldn't have to be a direct hit--one time I was in Tower B when lightning hit the tall steel light pole outside. My ears were ringing after that one, and the phone wasn't right, either. I was on the phone when it hit (stupid me!), and could swear that some sparks passed between it and my ear. Next thing I knew, Pat was screaming at me from the floor, and the hump conductor was asking if I was okay.

The fridge was fine, Jim, but I had to reset the microwave (I hope it's okay--come to think of it, the guy I relieved this morning had used it, so I guess it is).

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Nobody wants to talk to me right now--I tried calling about my health insurance, and the hump conductor's voice on the intercom kept making the voice-activated prompts do strange things. Life insurance wants to wait before they talk to me. And the gal in the office...I never did get a call back from her. So the planning is on hold, even if the plans aren't.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:02 PM
We had another storm pass through here early this morning, before work. It lasted less than an hour, but dumped 0.7 inches of rain. Big thunderheads to our south before dusk tonight.

Pat and I had some good train-watching along the BNSF between Downers Grove and LaGrange, including several a couple of dinkies, an eastbound Amtrak (three units, if that helps anyone identify it), and several stackers, manifests, and hopper trains. One of our favorite sandwich shops in Downers Grove was replaced recently by an Italian eatery; the food was good, but somewhat pricey. The view is good, though, at the right tables. (Joe or anyone, you needn't worry--it wasn't 2Toots that was replaced; it was the beef place on the corner.)

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:48 AM

Just finished getting rocked by some of Ma Nature's fireworks.  Nothing severe (almost!) but the light show was pretty impressive.  Aedan is spending the night at his grandparents house so I'll hear how he did in the morning. 

Heard from "a little birdie" that one of CN's new/old C41-8s acquired from UP, CN 2105, may be on the move northward from IL.  May have to swing out if I get enough of a heads up and see if I can digitally steal it's soul.  Now...back to bed!

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:44 AM

CShaveRR
We had another storm pass through here early this morning, before work. It lasted less than an hour, but dumped 0.7 inches of rain.

 

We enjoyed that same storm from the comfort of a Courtyard by Marriott room on the north side of Elgin, IL- went on a whirlwind tour of there and Lindenwood, IL yesterday; main objective was the final disposition of Joanie's Mom's ashes (she's now buried under a new tree on the property she grew up on), but we also enjoyed participating in some of the events of Lindenwood's 175th anniversary celebration, including a parade past the same property.  On the way home, we spent an hour at Rochelle's RR park, which had lots of railfans in attendance, but only two trains to entertain them during that period.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:02 PM
Gee, Brian...We'd have invited you to dinner if we'd known you were in the area! Glad you got the chance to stop at Rochelle, though. I hope you took 38 out that way from Geneva. How about some pictures here, too, please?

Edit: I'm getting my morning rain-storms confused--you were long out of the area by Saturday evening, I guess. We had another one this morning (I was at work) that dropped an additional half-inch on us. Tomorrow we do some lawn work to clear the accumulation of twigs and larger branches from all of the storms this past week.

Dan, did you have any luck with that CN unit? I think it would look good in the CN paint (Spartan-cab GE units in CN black aren't that common!).

Pat and I took a spontaneous trip to Wheaton this afternoon, just to check out a few things (see the Geneva Sub thread). I had to explain to her what I was looking for on those new signal bridges, and she really appreciated that I took the time to do that. It's fun being able to just drop everything and go somewhere. Believe it or not, Pat says she's actually looking forward to having me around a little more. I think that's about a month away.

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:13 PM

 Carl, unfortunately we were booked solid for our entire trip- had dinner Friday at Alexander's Restaurant in front of the Courtyard by Marriott with one of Joanie's cousins on her father's side.  So, I decided not to advertise our presence.  Since the action through Rochelle was very sparse, I only have the one shot to share, but I can certainly post it here as well!  As you can see, the railfans outnumbered the trains...


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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, June 28, 2010 8:07 AM
That's OK, Brian--it's a good picture, and you can seldom (thankfully!) get more than two trains in a picture at once!

Folks might notice the new kiosk visible in the distance (between the pavilion and the parking lot): that's one of several erected along the route of the Lincoln Highway through Illinois. One of the Lincoln Highway's biggest claims to fame is that it crossed this part of the country without hitting Chicago!

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, June 28, 2010 11:36 AM

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One of the Lincoln Highway's biggest claims to fame is that it crossed this part of the country without hitting Chicago!

.....Speaking of the Lincoln Highway:  In my small home town in Pennsylvania, the Lincoln Highway was main street until 1938.

A bypass was constructed then....{7 mi.}

But to this day, there is one of the famous concrete posts that were erected about 1929 {I believe}, and it identified the route as so.  A plack still of Pres. Lincoln and the capitol letter "L" is imprinted on it.  I believe they were erected by the Boy Scouts.  They stand about 3.5' tall.  It is amazing it is still there.  Town is Stoystown.  Pop. for years, roughly 450.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, June 28, 2010 11:52 AM

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Dan, did you have any luck with that CN unit? I think it would look good in the CN paint (Spartan-cab GE units in CN black aren't that common!).

Sadly, no.  I missed it by a little more than an hour.  One of the posters on another place I visit was luckier than I and did catch it.  The unit (and the rest) wear a sharp scheme. 

http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/3um/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4809&p=35162#p35162 

Photos and details on the link.

Dan

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