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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:04 PM

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I think 3 cylinder steam was most popular in Britain where smaller locomotives were the norm. The added power of the third cylinder on a small frame was worth the trade-off of the maintenance necessities.

 

I think the British use of plate frames (at least on somewhat older locs) might have made accessibility less problematic that here.

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Posted by CopCarSS on Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:54 PM

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 3 cylinder design did not fare well in North America, mainly owing to the higher maintenance required by an extra cylinder, and the increased difficulty of reaching the middle cylinder.

I think a lot of the lack of development on this side of the pond can be traced to one simple reason: American steam was free to evolve beyond 3 cylinders to 4. American steam was much larger and favored the development of Mallets, as well as simple expansion articulated (and duplex) locomotives.

I think 3 cylinder steam was most popular in Britain where smaller locomotives were the norm. The added power of the third cylinder on a small frame was worth the trade-off of the maintenance necessities. In the US, it was just easier to add another set of cylinder where they were still accessible for maintenance.

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Posted by Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:01 PM

 Most non-articulated North American steam locomotives used 2 cylinders. There are some notable exceptions that used 3 cylinders, the most celebrated example is the Union Pacific 4-12-2, the longest non-articulated locomotive in the western hemisphere.

Shay geared locomotives were often fitted with 3 cylinders as well.

The 3 cylinder design did not fare well in North America, mainly owing to the higher maintenance required by an extra cylinder, and the increased difficulty of reaching the middle cylinder.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:58 PM

....That 3rd cylinder assy. in the center sure must have been a repair headache.  Don't forget, we certainly had a lot of 4 cyl. engines too.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:54 PM

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I assume the 3rd. cylinder was in the middle between the other outside cylinders, right????

Which is why there weren't very many.

You might pose the question over on the heritage or locomotive forums.  I'm sure you'll get an in-depth analysis (not that you won't here).

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2 or 3 cylinder?
Posted by tatans on Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:29 PM

Were most steam locos in North America 2 or 3 cylinders ?  I only remember 2 cylinder C.P.R.  locos by the slow chuff-chuff, I also remember seeing 3 cylinder British steam in London in 1965.  I assume the 3rd. cylinder was in the middle between the other outside cylinders, right????

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