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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:15 AM

Looked on the cover of latest Trains Magazine - yep it's January.  But inside index page explains the pix on the cover as "As an Amtrak protect engine stands ready"....see my question? 

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:36 AM

I don't understand your question.  The inside uncropped picture shows: Amtrak 933 on the Protection track, NJT's Cab car 5016 leading toward the station platforms from the Hudson River Tunnels, and LIRR MU set coming down from the West Side Yard. July 4, 1997 basically no different than July 4, 2007 or November 29, 2009.

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:57 AM

Mookie
see my question? 

What is a protect engine?

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:18 AM

{?}......To respond to that question....{I think}, my opinion would be a "stand by" power unit in all that maze just in case a failure of another occurs, the "stand by" could connect and move disabled train.  That's just my opinion.

 

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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:23 AM

nanaimo73

Mookie
see my question? 

What is a protect engine?

You have been reading my postings too long!  I will have to change my style to stay ahead of you!  Kisses

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:32 AM

Mookie
You have been reading my postings too long!  I will have to change my style to stay ahead of you!  Kisses

No! Your style is fine.

It is a rather delightful change of pace from the Don Phillips and HSR debates.

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:43 AM

Ok. A protect engine is just that: an engine placed to be used in an emergency to protect schedules, etc.  Commuter lines, especially electric ones, will often place a diesel at certain points or yards, in case there is a problem  But, come to think of it, this brings up an interesting point. The Amtrak "protect" engine shown is electric. To be a true protect engine it should be, or one would think,  a diesel to rescue the electric trains in the tunnels in times of power failures, downed wires (too often an occurrence), etc.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:45 AM

Mookie

nanaimo73

Mookie
see my question? 

What is a protect engine?

You have been reading my postings too long!  I will have to change my style to stay ahead of you!  Kisses

 

I'm guessing, but it could be a perfectly accepted practice, To avoid a fouled terminal and late departures during an acceptionally heavy traffic period.

    I know FedEX used to maintain a 'Hot Stand-by' aircraft at their hubs to cover an aircraft failure, to avoid a missed sort schedule. (A Hot Stand-by is a crewed, fueled,ready to fly, available aircraft). It would  be dispatched to cover a potential failure to deliver on schedule/missed sort on a truck route--read that as being a very expensive, effective solution, charged to the offending carrier! 

 

 


 

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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:08 PM

Thank you all.  That was a pretty simple explanation.  I was all set for something very convoluted; special tracks, special area, or "guarding" something important.  Guess if they would call it a backup, there would be no need for a question? 

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Posted by zardoz on Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:31 PM

So....Amtrak is now in the "protection" racket?  Hopefully it will generate some needed revenue.

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:38 PM

zardoz

So....Amtrak is now in the "protection" racket?  Hopefully it will generate some needed revenue.

Only in New York and New Jersey is it necessary.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:49 PM

As I recall, "protect" engines are/were common for Presidential trains (ie, POTUS).  They would be stationed along the planned route, "just in case."

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, November 30, 2009 12:32 PM
zardoz
So....Amtrak is now in the "protection" racket?  Hopefully it will generate some needed revenue.
No. They will lose money doing it. They will no doubt require 5000 guys to "collect" the lunch money from a half dozen third graders....

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