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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:24 AM

In a footnote in Jerry Pinkepank's two-part article in TRAINS in the mid-60's about the Detroit and St. Clair tunnels (A Tale of Two Tunnels) is a comment about what happens when the surveyors get sloppy about their work.  Apparently, the shields used to bore one of the H&M (now PATH) tunnels were allowed to drift out of line and there is a reverse curve in the tunnel where the shields had to be turned to get back into alignment.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:26 AM

mudchicken

Back to QueCreek;

Thanks, MC...for the comprehensive answer on said subject.

100% totally agree, if the surveyors of the past had not done accurate work....anything used now to read from their remaining records...{maps}, would have been useless.

Mine surveying was in some cases not very easy work....Depending on the seam of coal.  Example:  My dad helped with survey work back 60 some years ago and he mentioned of doing some work where the "roof" was just 2' in height....

Item:  The location of the rescue bore to the miners at Quecreek was located just a very short distance from a farmers lake {pond}....Fortunately, it was where it was and not where they needed to drill.

Quentin

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:22 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
In a footnote in Jerry Pinkepank's two-part article in TRAINS in the mid-60's about the Detroit and St. Clair tunnels (A Tale of Two Tunnels) is a comment about what happens when the surveyors get sloppy about their work.  Apparently, the shields used to bore one of the H&M (now PATH) tunnels were allowed to drift out of line and there is a reverse curve in the tunnel where the shields had to be turned to get back into alignment.

A tale of two tunnels 1
Trains, September 1964 page 36
the Detroit and St. Clair river tunnels
( CANADA, GT, MICHIGAN, NYC, ONTARIO, "PINKEPANK, JERRY A.", TUNNEL, TRN )


A tale of two tunnels 2
Trains, October 1964 page 40
the Detroit and St. Clair river tunnels
( CANADA, GT, MICHIGAN, NYC, ONTARIO, "PINKEPANK, JERRY A.", TUNNEL, TRN )

Hmm - don't think I have those 2 issues yet.  Will have to get them, if only for this reason.  Thanks for mentioning it !

- Paul North.

"This Fascinating Railroad Business" (title of 1943 book by Robert Selph Henry of the AAR)

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