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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 9:46 PM
Bobchuck,
The Good Ol' Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, better known as just the Lackawanna. Another good slogan from the DL&W was "The Road of Anthracite" boasting the hard coal the road shipped and burned in steamers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:53 PM
One of the really cool RR names I remember from my kid days is "Route of the Phoebe Snow". I have no idea what company it represented , I just remember liking that name. Anybody know what company it was? It never appeared on locos as far as I know, just the cars.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd

QUOTE: Originally posted by dmoore74

QUOTE:
BNSF is actually the amalgamation of three RR names: Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, and Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, with some other mergers thrown in, I think.

440cuin

Actually Burlington Northern was an amalgation of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, Great Northern and the Spokane, Portland & Seattle.
The original name proposed was Great Northern Pacific & Burlington. I'm sure all the sign painters would have loved that one.


It's kinda funny how "Burlington" got top billing over Chicago and Quincy in CB&Q. Sort of like "Santa Fe", I suppose. Chicago is still THE RR city (at least for frt) - and nobody has it in their name, tho' we do have Burlington, Norfolk and Santa Fe represented....


A good name change on the BNSF would be Chicago, Burlington & Everywhere West, or breaking the road down into 6 major regions and calling them the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, with a silver, red and yellow paint scheme, St. Louis-San Francisco with a red and white paint job, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy with the "Blackbird" paint, Great Northern in green and orange, Northern Pacific in black and yellow, and Spokane, Portland & Seattle in dark gray and yellow.

The perfect railroad, albeit a little unpractical. THE BURLINGTON LIVES ON...

BTW, there used to be a joke when Chessie System and Seaboard/Family Lines first announced they were going to merged that the new line would be called the "Family Cat"[:D]
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Posted by TH&B on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:24 PM
I think the Canadian Pacific is a very suitable name, it is still geographicaly mostly Canadian but it ships alot of traffic traded with the Pacific rim countries, so if any change it could be the Chinese Pacific.

SCL; Seaboard means coastline, so that is a stupid name realy. hehe

A realy cool name was Rock Island or just The Rock. Imagine if Roch Island had been the successes UPRR had and bought up all those western roads and instead of Union Pacific we would have The Rock, and everyone would dislike The Rock. hehe

Another cool name is Grand Trunk Western and of course Santa Fe, just neet words to say.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 26, 2004 4:33 PM
I Like the Big New Santa Fe, Never shouldve got rid of the warbonnet though.......
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Posted by ReimanTrainfan on Monday, April 26, 2004 2:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken

re: SCL -- maybe Atlantic Air Line (AAL) would have been better?

re: CSX (actually "CSXT"!) -- seems I read somewhere that CSX assured people when they first used the name that it was "temporary", and a better name would be forthcoming... here's hoping...

re: UP -- Canada (which evidently also includes Wisconsin... [:(!]) has the Canadian National and Canadian Pacific, I always thought that Union Pacific represented the United States the same way. Till they overthrew the C&NW, now we don't like 'em... [:o)]

re: BNSF -- I agree they could use a better name. Heck, just go with "Santa Fe", and bring back the warbonnets!!! Santa Fe is a longer-lived name anyways. What would have resulted from the CN-BNSF merger that never happened???

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According to the January 2004 issue of TRAINS. It was 10 yrs ago that CSX said the name was temporary. I have a feeling that UNFORTUNATLY CSX will stay, and the Chessy kitten is gone for good.[:(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 26, 2004 2:19 PM
CP should be Canadian Period.

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Posted by AltonFan on Monday, April 26, 2004 9:50 AM
QUOTE: Just think about reactions if these two roads would have merged:

Illinois Central Union Pacific.

This name might also be too much to paint on the side of locomotives. The shortned version would have to do


No, they would have dubbed this the "E. H. Harriman Company" or perhaps The Associated Railroads".

Now to test my understanding...

...is this thread about stupid names for railroads, or the names of stupid railroads, or even stupid railroads with stupid names?


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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:09 PM
Let's add a few more lines
NS= North & South

Maybe CSX could be Y&D (Yankee & Dixie). Funny how L&N and GM&O used Dixie as part of their slogans. I think the line out of Atlanta was the
Atlantic & Great Western?
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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:05 PM
CN+BNSF=BurlingtonCanadianNorthernSaskachawan(sp?)Fe.
(Canadian Northern was a predisessor to Canadian National.)
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:27 PM
re: SCL -- maybe Atlantic Air Line (AAL) would have been better?

re: CSX (actually "CSXT"!) -- seems I read somewhere that CSX assured people when they first used the name that it was "temporary", and a better name would be forthcoming... here's hoping...

re: UP -- Canada (which evidently also includes Wisconsin... [:(!]) has the Canadian National and Canadian Pacific, I always thought that Union Pacific represented the United States the same way. Till they overthrew the C&NW, now we don't like 'em... [:o)]

re: BNSF -- I agree they could use a better name. Heck, just go with "Santa Fe", and bring back the warbonnets!!! Santa Fe is a longer-lived name anyways. What would have resulted from the CN-BNSF merger that never happened???

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

[2c] Agreed, Union Pacific , being the one remaining unchanged name, deserves to stay, other sentiments notwithstanding.

Many railroads, large and small, never reached one or the other of the places in their name, even though the promoters certainly wanted investors to believe they eventually would. With today's wide ranging systems, a "place to place" name just doesn't cut it. You need a regional name. If the rumors of UP+CSX ever come to fruition, you're talking coast-to-coast (the Atlantic and Pacific Railroad?)

I've tried to think of a name for CSX, still drawing a blank. NS wasn't too far off until they took on CR.

BNSF is actually the amalgamation of three RR names: Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, and Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, with some other mergers thrown in, I think.
I don't think a UP+CSX should be called the Atlantic & Pacific Railroad. People would think it's part of the Atlantic &Pacific Tea Company.
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:30 AM
SCL = Seaboard Air Line + Atlantic Coast Line

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Posted by Rustyrex on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:17 AM
Seaboard Coast Line, kind of a redundant name for a railroad.

St Louis-San Fransisco always made me laugh too, until several years ago doing research found out about their plans of actually buiding to San Fransisco.

CSX - Chessie + Seaboard Xed?? Seaboard is now 0 for 2[:D]

Speaking of strange names for railroads after mergers, was a name tossed around for fun of the BNSF + Norfolk Southern = Burlington, Norfolk Southern Fe [:D] LOL, although with the track record of railroad merger names, who knows...........

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by : Locomutt
How's" EAGLE RIDGE RAILWAY" sound?

Sounds good. just to let you know, there is a 'Potomac Eagle Railway" tourist line in WV.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Espeefoamer
CSX should have gone with Chessie Seaboard.

They did.....kind of.......
The "X" supposedly has multiple meanings: "Combination", "Along with other railroads", representing future mergers, etc.

They could have been kind enough not to kill Chessie the cat though! We could have Peake in military uniform again!
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Posted by TH&B on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:38 PM
Don, I agree Chicago remains a major railroad place name none use any more. The CN is now realy the Chicago Canada & Mississippi RR.

-Some Euro names are even more stupid, like how do you even pronounce Railion? Or Thalys or Arriva? It's like Amtrak's Accela, real dumb!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:36 PM
In Europe you see that railroads are privatized from the state. They can (and have to) grow outside the borders of their homecountry and therefore have to use company names that do not represent a country. The freight service of Germany, Danmark and Holland merged into Railion, in France the SNCF renamed their freight FRET. You see: no cities or countries are represented in these names. And passenger trains crossing the borders: Thalys from Amsterdam to Paris, Eurostar from Paris to London.
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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:54 AM
There is a little metre gauge electric line that runs from Locarno in Switzerland to Domdossola (on the Italian end of the Simplon tunnel.

It has amazing curves and scenery, and allows a railfan to go through the Gotthard, Simplon and Loetchberg tunnels in one day, if you work out the connections correctly and can find the underground platforms at Domdossola.

The line name in Italian is "Ferrovie Autonome Regionale Ticinese", and the neat little blue and white railcars have big chrome initials down the side reading...

F A R T

I think it reads SSIF on the cars with Swiss lettering!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:22 AM
Union Pacific-Western Pacif with the last colors of western Pacific
Burlington Northern Santa Fe=Chicago Pacific and Western
CSX=Atlantic and western
CP Rail=Canadian Western

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:05 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dmoore74

QUOTE:
BNSF is actually the amalgamation of three RR names: Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, and Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, with some other mergers thrown in, I think.

440cuin

Actually Burlington Northern was an amalgation of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, Great Northern and the Spokane, Portland & Seattle.
The original name proposed was Great Northern Pacific & Burlington. I'm sure all the sign painters would have loved that one.


It's kinda funny how "Burlington" got top billing over Chicago and Quincy in CB&Q. Sort of like "Santa Fe", I suppose. Chicago is still THE RR city (at least for frt) - and nobody has it in their name, tho' we do have Burlington, Norfolk and Santa Fe represented....

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Posted by wallyworld on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:53 AM
If names are not for enjoyment, now I know why my parents named me what they did.
As far as names showing where a road goes being a stupid concept...We should then formally change the UP name to Utta Petunia and CSX to Cherry Smedley Xmont and BNSF to Beaumont Nebula Swettin Farley.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 9:57 PM
Calm down, boys. Next thing ya know, somebody'll show up checking spelling[banghead]
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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by csxengineer98

the names of the compaines are not inteded for railfan injoyment.... and the argument that they should be named to show where they go is just stupid....
csx engineer



Sure, they were! (Wanna trade ad hominems, huh?)

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P.S. this may explain why NS is currently eating CSX's lunch. Ya think?

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:23 PM
Thanks Jim...I wondered why the Frisco called themselves that...I knew there had to be some reason. [:D]

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Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, April 19, 2004 7:33 PM
the names of the compaines are not inteded for railfan injoyment.... and the argument that they should be named to show where they go is just stupid....
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Posted by oltmannd on Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mvlandsw

CSX or NS could use Atlantic & Western



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Posted by dmoore74 on Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:57 PM
QUOTE:
BNSF is actually the amalgamation of three RR names: Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, and Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, with some other mergers thrown in, I think.

440cuin

Actually Burlington Northern was an amalgation of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, Northern Pacific, Great Northern and the Spokane, Portland & Seattle.
The original name proposed was Great Northern Pacific & Burlington. I'm sure all the sign painters would have loved that one.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:11 PM
CSX is a really dumb name.It isn't even a name,actually,just initals.It doesn't give a clue as to what it is or where it goes.
Conrail says what it is,Consolidated Rail,but doesn't tell where it goes.ConNortheast Rail would have been better.
CSX should have gone with Chessie Seaboard.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 440cuin

BNSF is probably the dumdest, Great North Central Pacific would do, or Western American Railroad. I like the name Union Pacific, it could be anything big and American. Canadian National is niether national nor Canadian but should keep the name for its heritage sake, or what would you call it? the Canadian & Mississippi RR?!?! or the Mississippi & Canadian?!?!
In the past the dumbest name was Pacific Great Eastern, it was niether great nor eastern nor even reached the Pacific.
Also the Frisco <SL&SF> didn't even go to San Fransisco, in fact it went east and soutwest of Saint Louis!
Dumb names, great railroads.

Maybe the best name for the Frisco would have been St Louis Southwestern.[:)]That name was already taken,though.
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Posted by mvlandsw on Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:55 PM
CSX or NS could use Atlantic & Western

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