Trains.com

Buying Railcars, then leasing them to railways.

13731 views
33 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I'm not sure of the numbers, but owning railroad equipment takes big bucks. A single car has to be over 100K, so if you had a few million, you could own a small fleet. I would imagine that it is something like the apartment rental business, and vacancies kill. Time is money. If you win the lottery, buy railroad stock, it's easier. [swg]

Cars can be as cheap as $1,000 in running condition, used. New cars are expensive, but you don't need new cars to get into the business. Don't expect big profits in car leasing though...

Do you think you are ready to compete with the likes of GATX, and others?

It isn't just competition from other leasing companies, but also from the RRs themselves that makes this business difficult. If a RR has a choice of using their car or yours who's do you think they'll load?!?



LC
  • Member since
    March 2001
  • From: New York City
  • 805 posts
Posted by eastside on Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:50 PM
I once worked for the leasing group of a Wall Street investment bank. We analyzed and put together the financing of such deals.

Yes, it takes a lot of money, but the real question is why a company should lease rather than simply buy equipment. Usually the decision to lease depends on taxes and the financial condition of the firm.

Here are a few of the advantages.
From the lessor’s side:
1. Can take advantage of tax credits that may be unavailable or unusable by the lessee
2. Cost of capital to buy equipment is frequently less for the lessor because they’re usually in better financial condition
3. Can redeploy returned equipment faster than lessee

From the lessee’s side:
1. Doesn’t have to carry equipment on books
2. Doesn’t have to tie up capital in equipment that they may need only temporarily or sporadically
3. Can have a positive effect on earnings per share (eps)

Not surprisingly, many of our clients were transportation companies.
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: IL
  • 209 posts
Posted by XG01X on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:35 PM
Check out http://www.sircrail.com and how they got started
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by XG01X

Check out http://www.sircrail.com and how they got started


Thanks for the link, good reading.

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy