I Like it,looks patriotic ! I think this must be a spl scheme with the flag waving at the bottom of the nose nad the side of the cab...
Patriotic it may be, but by god, its the ugliest darn thing to ever roll on rails. Im sorry, but the corporate FEC made a horrible decision, like most shortline BOD's do when they sell themselves to these transportation companies because of pure greed. Bring back the classic Blue and Yellow! That, was a snazzy paint-scheme, especially when its screaming at you, at speed in Daytona
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(For the Curious, i did photograph FEC 102, and unk. SD40-2 with a Miami-bound train this past feb. on a holiday break.)
vsmith Better than the SP/SF merger Kodachrome scheme
Better than the SP/SF merger Kodachrome scheme
I actually liked the Kodachrome scheme.
The Rail America scheme isn't bad, but I would have preferred the red-and-yellow 1950's FEC livery, with the cool seal/logo/emblem/whatever on the nose. That is a cool logo, when all the different parts are appropriately colored.
My 2 cents worth, and maybe overpriced at that.
This scheme looks great to me. The noselights are what's hideous.
This scheme is way nicer than UP's old boring "red hood text" scheme. That's for sure.
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Am I the only one that liked the blue with red/white stripes on the nose?
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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It is not an E8 so how can it look good!?
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I like it.
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Oh well it least they didn't do it PURPLE with WHITE STRIPES!!---I saw one of those a few years ago ---took a pic of it and now we can't find the dang thing------maybe it's hiding from embarassment----
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Since its Florida they should just have paintings of a surfer on a wave. Anything would be better than that paint scheme.
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Boyd Since its Florida they should just have paintings of a surfer on a wave. Anything would be better than that paint scheme.
Although it's been decades since I last set foot in the state (lived there for a couple years as a lad) I can assure you that, though pleasant in climate, FLA is no hotbed for surfing (for the most part true of the entire Atlantic seaboard). You're thinking of that coast on the other side of the country...............
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nordique72 Oddly enough it was a lettering mistake by Mid-America Car- all of the locomotives were supposed to be lettered "Florida East Coast"- but for some reason this one emerged with "Rail America" on the flanks.
Oddly enough it was a lettering mistake by Mid-America Car- all of the locomotives were supposed to be lettered "Florida East Coast"- but for some reason this one emerged with "Rail America" on the flanks.
Rail America doesn't let things like that happen. It wasn't a coincidence
The FEC isn't ever going to be "FEC" like it was pre-Fortress. Rail-America has now taken over the FEC as a manager, with Fortress Investment Group being the owner. What's FEC's is now Rail America property for all intents and purposes. FIG would have the FEC owned by RA, and eventually the portfolios of the two will be merged, but it'll be a bit of a legal circus to transfer everything with STB intervention, etc.
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carnej1 Boyd Since its Florida they should just have paintings of a surfer on a wave. Anything would be better than that paint scheme. Although it's been decades since I last set foot in the state (lived there for a couple years as a lad) I can assure you that, though pleasant in climate, FLA is no hotbed for surfing (for the most part true of the entire Atlantic seaboard). You're thinking of that coast on the other side of the country...............
Florida surf, all 6 awesome inches of it dude!!!
I really love the Corky helmet, nice touch.
Have fun with your trains
When I did live there in the 80s, most people I knew, I think it was called, windboarded. Sort of a miniature sailboat concoction. I think that's what they did. The gulf was so tame at times that when there was a hurricane off shore once I went there to go in just to have some decent waves. It actually compared to waves at theJersey beaches.
But back to the original subject, I just got used to seeing the old FEC scheme on my visits down there to my friends place in Jacksonville, I liked it. Problem with the new scheme is that it reflects FEC's new image as part of a big company now, individuality notwithstanding anymore. I don't have an opinion on how it looks one way or the other. I know there are varied opinions on whether their joining RailAmerica was good or bad, I'll leave that up to the rest of everyone here to decide, they certainly can offer a lot better opinion on that than I can.
Regardless of the paint job, which I kinda like, how did RailAmerica wind up owning FEC?
I thought Norfolk Southern wanted it, and NS surely has a fatter war chest to use for purchases.
Is there a story here?
Fortress owns the FEC, avoiding any STB issues since it's not a "Rail America Company".
Rail America simply manages it.
garylaRegardless of the paint job, which I kinda like, how did RailAmerica wind up owning FEC? I thought Norfolk Southern wanted it, and NS surely has a fatter war chest to use for purchases. Is there a story here?
Not exactly sure whether there was any kind of talk between FEC and NS for an acquisition, but evidently it didn't work out. I also recall that FEC was supposed to buy SD70s (real spartan cab SD70s!), what ever happened with that?
I'm no fan of the RA paint scheme, nor any of its predecessors going back to the RailTex grey and red. And I liked the SPSF paint scheme! Good combination of colors, too bad the merger was completely ham-handed.
In other news, I hear that Warren Buffett now owns over 1/5 of BNSF. GEICO railroad, anyone?
fuzzybrokenIn other news, I hear that Warren Buffett now owns over 1/5 of BNSF. GEICO railroad, anyone?
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Nice colors, but they should've lowered the red so it was even with the bottom edge of the radiator grids and the nose. Or left the red off the nose.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=263318.
Hmmm.
I think it looks pretty nice! What's wrong with that scheme?
That red, white, and blue in the horizontal pattern almost reminds me of a Bicenntenniel styled locomotive and it looks patriotic, especially considering the name. . The "V" taper of the blue on the nose resembles the pattern on the nose of Florida East Coast and Atlantic Coast Line cab units.
I'm certainly going to miss the Florida East Coast and hope that RailAmerica will keep the the standards that the FEC has been maintaining for so many decades.
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AntonioFP45I'm certainly going to miss the Florida East Coast and hope that RailAmerica will keep the the standards that the FEC has been maintaining for so many decades.
The sky is falling ! The sky is falling ! Run for cover !
The "FEC" isn't going anywhere. RailAmerica hasn't pushed any cuts in staffing, done anything drastic to harm the FEC, and if anything, they've committed to keeping FEC operating as a top notch railroad. Rail America is taking SD70s and other "good" big power from other RA roads and moving it to the FEC. In trade of this, they're moving some of FEC's SD-40's (rebuilt UP, etc) and GP's to other properties.
GraniteRailroaderAntonioFP45I'm certainly going to miss the Florida East Coast and hope that RailAmerica will keep the the standards that the FEC has been maintaining for so many decades. The sky is falling ! The sky is falling ! Run for cover ! The "FEC" isn't going anywhere.
The "FEC" isn't going anywhere.
But I still don't like that new paint scheme.
GraniteRailroaderAntonioFP45I'm certainly going to miss the Florida East Coast and hope that RailAmerica will keep the the standards that the FEC has been maintaining for so many decades. The sky is falling ! The sky is falling ! Run for cover ! The "FEC" isn't going anywhere. RailAmerica hasn't pushed any cuts in staffing, done anything drastic to harm the FEC, and if anything, they've committed to keeping FEC operating as a top notch railroad. Rail America is taking SD70s and other "good" big power from other RA roads and moving it to the FEC. In trade of this, they're moving some of FEC's SD-40's (rebuilt UP, etc) and GP's to other properties.
Granite, was that really necessary???????? The sky is falling? Man, I thought we as modelers and railfans were supposed to exchange ideas, share info and opinions, and express thoughts here. A simple, correction to my opinion would have received a "Thank You" from me.
How is my hoping that RailAmerica maintains FEC's past high standards connotes "The sky is falling?". Good grief!
I don't think that I was pushing for "panic mode". I was being very matter of factly. I doubt that the new brass would ever want to harm the company. However, history has shown that in some cases mergers, consolidations, or absorbtions of smaller railroads by larger entities have resulted in both postive AND negative impacts on customer service, tax structures, economic outlook, maintenance practices and cycles, equipment utilization, liability coverage, etc. Simply the nature of the business.
The sky is falling comment was used to make a point.
FEC was nothing more then an investment for Fortress. It's mutually beneficial for both Fortress and FEC for the FEC to do well. Watching various forums related to FEC, you would see that there's a general hate and discontent for / towards RailAmerica being in charge of them now. RA allowed FEC to have their "railfan photoshoot", if people want to keep complaining about RA, those liberties don't need to be allowed and a drastic change of attitude could occur at corporate. It's a two way street.
Some (who will remain nameless) FEC fans have made a point of crying and whining via public avenues that RA employees (and FEC employees) watch about the acquisition and how it won't be beneficial, and they don't like RA, etc. What's too bad is that RA is only doing what Fortress allows, and Fortress won't allow it's investment to blunder. Any downgrade on quality of service would hurt things like the UPS intermodal traffic and other big contracts. Not going to happen.
Your post implied that the FEC will be going away. It's just "doom and gloom" .
I'm certainly going to miss the Florida East Coast
The FEC isn't going anywhere! It's still the Florida East Coast. Big deal if some new locomotives don't have the FEC paint scheme on them. It's not the paint on a locomotive that makes a railroad operate! The FEC is still the FEC. The operations haven't changed, they haven't had GCOR shoved down their throats (it may be coming - necessary evil. Sorry boys)....
I understand now. Apparently you thought that I might have been one of the doom and gloomers. I had not been aware that there was an "anti-Rail America" attitude on forums or among some railfans. My implication was that the "name" was going away based on previous posts.
Railroads, as with other transport companies, will continue to change and adapt (at least attempt to adapt) to market conditions. The only road that I truly miss is the Seaboard Coast Line, and that's only because so many of its personnel in the Tampa Bay area were very railfan friendly back in the 1970s, long before 9/11/01. Many of those good folks are retired are deceased now.
But I can't see myself becoming fanatical about a railroad. It's a business.
AntonioFP45 I understand now. Apparently you thought that I might have been one of the doom and gloomers. I had not been aware that there was an "anti-Rail America" attitude on forums or among some railfans. My implication was that the "name" was going away based on previous posts. Railroads, as with other transport companies, will continue to change and adapt (at least attempt to adapt) to market conditions. The only road that I truly miss is the Seaboard Coast Line, and that's only because so many of its personnel in the Tampa Bay area were very railfan friendly back in the 1970s, long before 9/11/01. Many of those good folks are retired are deceased now. But I can't see myself becoming fanatical about a railroad. It's a business.
I seen some of those posts/threads that GraniteRR was talking about----makes a person want to walk around those things with a fullface crash helmet-----
Besides----RA's colour scheme is a lot better than a lime green/orange/purple one that was thrown around in one thread in another forum a while back
You've got my curiosity. I usually don't post on those types of threads but will read them.
I look at the extreme attitudes by some of our railfan brethren regarding their favorite modern railroad as the equivilant to the attitudes some people have about their sports teams. How many people went "bonkers" when the Baltimore Colts went to Indianapolis, or when the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to LA? Stands to reason that we shouldn't be surprised to see that with this hobby as well.
As for Rail America's red, white, blue paint scheme, I do like it as I mentioned above. Sharp and really stands out. Only downside to it, as far as maintenance, would be the white sections which can show grime build up quickly (even with polyurethane paint) if not washed regularly.
BTW: Doesn't RA also own the Arizona & California? A&C's green and cream paint scheme is one of my favorites and I hope that it will last a while if A&C continues to operate independently or as part of another transport entity.
Yes, it's an RA road.
NECR still has it's blue & yellow paint scheme, as well.
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