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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:26 PM
i'm convinced that trailer parks keep getting whacked because they are almost entirely aluminum. Tornado's generate a tremendous amount of static electricity and aluminum is a great electrical conductor, so its like a magnet or a lightning rod, they draw the twister to them, thats why they keep getting whacked.

That or that trailer parks tend to be built so lightly that it doesnt take much force to collapse them and they tend not to be tied down securly so the winds can pick them up much easier than a house thats bolted down.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:08 PM
...It sure seems trailer courts are a magnet for drawing tornados.....In our central Indiana area they are more often than not victims of such action...

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Posted by Willy2 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Just so all of you in the mid-states can get a laugh at our expense , we get TORNADOS in LOS ANGELES!

Its a dirty little secret that the powers that be refuse to accept! very bad for tourism they think! but LA has the highest incidents of "cyclonic wind phenomena" (as the big heads out here call them,) WEST of the rockies! Back in the 90's we had a twister touch down in South Central LA tore up alot of roofs but I think all the Homeboy's scared it away.

I found out that a significant twister tore the crap out of my nieghborhood in Pasadena back in 1919! I also have a photo taken back in the 1980's of a funnel cloud hovering over the City of Commerce east of downtown. they tend to come and go faster here than in the plains.

FYI theres a movie coming out Memorial Day called "The Day After Tommaro" about the worlds climate gone mad and it plays the above with F-5 Tornados knocking the crap out downtown LA! Oh, and New York City gets whacked by a tsunami and a glacier too....



On some of my tornado videos they show pictures of tornadoes near Fresno California and LA. It is interesting that a place in that kind of climate gets as many tornadoes as it does.

That movie sounds very interesting. It also sounds like something that will really hold my attention since I like movies that have lots of action. I will be waiting for it to come out, and if the rating is appropriate for my age I will see it as soon as possible.

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Posted by Willy2 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

One fall day had a tornado hit Van Wert Ohio and cut up on a path to Port Clinton Ohio.They are still finding papers and pics from Van wert county up here.
stay aware
stay safe
Joe

At the weather symposium that I went to down in Lincoln on the day I met Mookie they gave a full 45 minute presentation on the Van Wert tornado. That thing was sure big and if I remember right it was an F4 on the Fugita Scale (scale of tornado intensity). On the Weather Channel Storm Stories they also did a half hour presentation on the Van Wert tornado. I guess it is becoming a pretty famous tornado. It's also an example that even in November strong tornadoes do occur.

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:40 PM
Just so all of you in the mid-states can get a laugh at our expense , we get TORNADOS in LOS ANGELES!

Its a dirty little secret that the powers that be refuse to accept! very bad for tourism they think! but LA has the highest incidents of "cyclonic wind phenomena" (as the big heads out here call them,) WEST of the rockies! Back in the 90's we had a twister touch down in South Central LA tore up alot of roofs but I think all the Homeboy's scared it away.

I found out that a significant twister tore the crap out of my nieghborhood in Pasadena back in 1919! I also have a photo taken back in the 1980's of a funnel cloud hovering over the City of Commerce east of downtown. they tend to come and go faster here than in the plains.

FYI theres a movie coming out Memorial Day called "The Day After Tommaro" about the worlds climate gone mad and it plays the above with F-5 Tornados knocking the crap out downtown LA! Oh, and New York City gets whacked by a tsunami and a glacier too....

Heres a link too view the trailer if your interested.

http://www.thedayaftertomorrow.com/trailer/index.html

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:27 PM
One fall day had a tornado hit Van Wert Ohio and cut up on a path to Port Clinton Ohio.They are still finding papers and pics from Van wert county up here.
stay aware
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Posted by Willy2 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I live in tornado alley and just like trains, you always expect one. But for whatever reason - Lincoln has never had a direct hit. We have had some very damaging straight line winds, horrible humidity, less snow than we did many years ago - (of course, now that I don't have to shovel it!) and our drought seems to be the biggest weather problem for us. Lincoln proper sits in a bowl. We have built out of that bowl and all around it. Now I wonder if they will see more tornados for "Lincoln" that are what used to be farm land a few years ago. Now densely populated. Our weather patterns are changing, IMHO. Any thoughts?

Well, we all know that trailer parks are tornado magnets, and common wisdom has always been that a tornado would not strike a major downtown area, for a variety of reasons. As the residents of both Salt Lake City and Nashville found out a few years ago, tain't necessarily so. The downtown areas of both cities suffered direct hits by significant twisters.

While our climate may be changing, the chances of being hit by a tornado probably remain about the same. As many a storm chaser can tell you, you just never know where the next one will hit. Tornados like the Tri-State of the 20's/30's were just as bad as the F5 Oklahoma suffered a couple of years ago. We just didn't have the ability to see or study it like we do now.

So, like Mookie says, always expect a tornado. Keep your weather eye out and pay attention to the media. They have an unprecedented ability to detect and report developing storms, and the record will show that even if they are wrong more than they are right, the payoff of paying attention is "staying alive."

Tree68: You mentioned that trailer parks are tornado magnets, but that isn't exactly true. Just like the thing about how tornadoes never strike the downtown portions of the cities that is a kind of a myth.

You mentioned the Tri-state Tornado. Some scientists think that the tri-state tornado may have been a situation where one tornado would weaken and another would form in the same general area. This how the damage path lasted so long. Do you think that their was just one tornado or do you think that there were multiple tornadoes? I personally think that there was only one tornado. I don't think that anyone will ever know for sure though.

And while I'm at it: There is a chance of thunderstorms at almost any given time here in Omaha through Sunday, and some of them may be severe. The chance for thunderstorms last night turned out to be a bust, but I think that sometime in the next few days we may get some bad weather. Anyone else expecting thunderstorms soon?

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:57 PM
....Jen, just stand out on the street facing west and hands on hips and then when bad stuff comes rolling in....point north....and send it in a direction that it might miss us and we'll give you a real big thank you....

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Weather...I could do without it. Seems to always cause trouble for me.


It's always Raining where you are Dan!

Your getting to be as bad as Tokyo!




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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Weather...I could do without it. Seems to always cause trouble for me.


It's always Raining where you are Dan!

Your getting to be as bad as Tokyo!




Ahhhh Tokyro....big prayglound for rarge gleen rizards........Godzirra!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

QUOTE: Originally posted by WeatherGod

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....


Kennebec.........
Kennebunk............
Kenneo...........

Ahh here it is Kenosha....Wisconsin...got it.......

Mr Zardoz we have you pencilled in for a Jun 05 Tornado...remember this is subject to change, so please periodically check our website www.motherearth.com/elements/storms/schedule/html for updates.

Thank you,
Weather Gods


I feel so honored. After all these years of interest in weather, studying weather in college, photographing weather, and just being amazed at the physics involved in making the weather, I have finally been granted an audience with those that I've prayed to. And to think, I owe it all to Trains magazine. Thank you, thank you. [bow][bow]

p.s. welcome to the forums, Weather Gods.[:D]


Unfortunately I have rain headed your way, but since you seem to be a worthy type, I may be able to cut it short for the weekend...let me see what we can do.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Weather...I could do without it. Seems to always cause trouble for me.


It's always Raining where you are Dan!

Your getting to be as bad as Tokyo!

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by WeatherGod

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....


Kennebec.........
Kennebunk............
Kenneo...........

Ahh here it is Kenosha....Wisconsin...got it.......

Mr Zardoz we have you pencilled in for a Jun 05 Tornado...remember this is subject to change, so please periodically check our website www.motherearth.com/elements/storms/schedule/html for updates.

Thank you,
Weather Gods


I feel so honored. After all these years of interest in weather, studying weather in college, photographing weather, and just being amazed at the physics involved in making the weather, I have finally been granted an audience with those that I've prayed to. And to think, I owe it all to Trains magazine. Thank you, thank you. [bow][bow]

p.s. welcome to the forums, Weather Gods.[:D]
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by WeatherGod

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....


Kennebec.........
Kennebunk............
Kenneo...........

Ahh here it is Kenosha....Wisconsin...got it.......

Mr Zardoz we have you pencilled in for a Jun 05 Tornado...remember this is subject to change, so please periodically check our website www.motherearth.com/elements/storms/schedule/html for updates.

Thank you,
Weather Gods


Ya know, a year from June, if Kenosha gets a visit, I'm really gonna wonder....

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by WeatherGod

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....


Kennebec.........
Kennebunk............
Kenneo...........

Ahh here it is Kenosha....Wisconsin...got it.......

Mr Zardoz we have you pencilled in for a Jun 05 Tornado...remember this is subject to change, so please periodically check our website www.motherearth.com/elements/storms/schedule/html for updates.

Thank you,
Weather Gods
I am going to think about this in a dull meeting I have to go to and break up laughing - I will be committed! [:D]

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I live in tornado alley and just like trains, you always expect one. But for whatever reason - Lincoln has never had a direct hit. We have had some very damaging straight line winds, horrible humidity, less snow than we did many years ago - (of course, now that I don't have to shovel it!) and our drought seems to be the biggest weather problem for us. Lincoln proper sits in a bowl. We have built out of that bowl and all around it. Now I wonder if they will see more tornados for "Lincoln" that are what used to be farm land a few years ago. Now densely populated. Our weather patterns are changing, IMHO. Any thoughts?

Well, we all know that trailer parks are tornado magnets, and common wisdom has always been that a tornado would not strike a major downtown area, for a variety of reasons. As the residents of both Salt Lake City and Nashville found out a few years ago, tain't necessarily so. The downtown areas of both cities suffered direct hits by significant twisters.

While our climate may be changing, the chances of being hit by a tornado probably remain about the same. As many a storm chaser can tell you, you just never know where the next one will hit. Tornados like the Tri-State of the 20's/30's were just as bad as the F5 Oklahoma suffered a couple of years ago. We just didn't have the ability to see or study it like we do now.

So, like Mookie says, always expect a tornado. Keep your weather eye out and pay attention to the media. They have an unprecedented ability to detect and report developing storms, and the record will show that even if they are wrong more than they are right, the payoff of paying attention is "staying alive."

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:09 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....


Kennebec.........
Kennebunk............
Kenneo...........

Ahh here it is Kenosha....Wisconsin...got it.......

Mr Zardoz we have you pencilled in for a Jun 05 Tornado...remember this is subject to change, so please periodically check our website www.motherearth.com/elements/storms/schedule/html for updates.

Thank you,
Weather Gods
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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:48 PM
Mookie,

It's just a matter of time until Lincoln's number comes up. Where I live (Kenosha, WI) we have had only 9 tornadoes since records were kept. Our clock is ticking also.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:31 PM
On the East Coast we fear the mighty Hurricane season. It starts in June and ends in November. The peak season is September and October. The last two hurricanes to hit Delaware have wiped out a tourist line (Wilmington & Western). They are still re-building from the last storm back in Sept/Oct 2003.

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

We in Central Indiana understand the season is near....and all we can do is be aware and have a plan and of course pray we aren't scheduled for a direct hit anyways soon. This too is tornado alley and we've had some on the ground less than 1/2 mile from our home here in the past. Straight line winds are a given in this area in this season.
Q - I had to move to Oklahoma to see my one and only tornado. That is enough - don't wish for any more. And now that there are so many people on the forum from all over the US - I will have to watch the weather closer and worry more!

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I live in tornado alley and just like trains, you always expect one. But for whatever reason - Lincoln has never had a direct hit. We have had some very damaging straight line winds, horrible humidity, less snow than we did many years ago - (of course, now that I don't have to shovel it!) and our drought seems to be the biggest weather problem for us. Lincoln proper sits in a bowl. We have built out of that bowl and all around it. Now I wonder if they will see more tornados for "Lincoln" that are what used to be farm land a few years ago. Now densely populated. Our weather patterns are changing, IMHO. Any thoughts?




Professional courtesy.......The tornado gods figure that having to live in a square flat state is bad enough so they cut you some slack........[;)]
I feel privileged, since they must really hate Kansas!

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:23 AM
We in Central Indiana understand the season is near....and all we can do is be aware and have a plan and of course pray we aren't scheduled for a direct hit anyways soon. This too is tornado alley and we've had some on the ground less than 1/2 mile from our home here in the past. Straight line winds are a given in this area in this season.

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I live in tornado alley and just like trains, you always expect one. But for whatever reason - Lincoln has never had a direct hit. We have had some very damaging straight line winds, horrible humidity, less snow than we did many years ago - (of course, now that I don't have to shovel it!) and our drought seems to be the biggest weather problem for us. Lincoln proper sits in a bowl. We have built out of that bowl and all around it. Now I wonder if they will see more tornados for "Lincoln" that are what used to be farm land a few years ago. Now densely populated. Our weather patterns are changing, IMHO. Any thoughts?




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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:09 AM
I live in tornado alley and just like trains, you always expect one. But for whatever reason - Lincoln has never had a direct hit. We have had some very damaging straight line winds, horrible humidity, less snow than we did many years ago - (of course, now that I don't have to shovel it!) and our drought seems to be the biggest weather problem for us. Lincoln proper sits in a bowl. We have built out of that bowl and all around it. Now I wonder if they will see more tornados for "Lincoln" that are what used to be farm land a few years ago. Now densely populated. Our weather patterns are changing, IMHO. Any thoughts?

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:50 AM
Weather...I could do without it. Seems to always cause trouble for me.
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Weather (whether you like it or not...)
Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:44 AM
Based on the suggestions and encouragements of tree68, joekc6nix, Mookie, and of course Willy2, I have started this thread so folks with weather questions, stories, and advice can get together, without boring those that have no interest.

Joekc6nix, tree68, and myself are or have been involved in various capacities of severe weather reporting. We do this strictly as a volunteer basis, in order to help the general public prepare for imminent danger in the event of a storm.

Severe weather season has begun, and depending on your latitude, could be in or near your peak time. Keep your eyes to the sky, and if you're out "in the field" watching trains or whatever, have a plan of escape if a storm should appear. Remember, thunderstorms can and do move at up to 70mph, so you need to be prepared.

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