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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 7, 2004 11:10 PM
Christmas train curious i called it well i called it because well its happened everytime so far. Well anyway My dad and i always wanted to see the christmas train in Brandon Manitoba & Virden Manitoba which are our favorite places to watch CP on the main well anyway i was reading the CP site news and read about the christmas train and showed my dad and figured out when it would get in to brandon because of the CP schedule so my dad told me to mark it on the calendar this was going to be the best trip my dad and i were going to head up there 45 minutes before it got there to catch some winter railfanning at the brandon yard. The morning i got up put film in my camera and then went to school nice sunny day getting quite excited to tell u the truth well who wouldn't be i waited and waited for the final bell it rung i ran home got all my stuff ready then dad came home we get 10 or 15 miles tops and ran into Bad weather barely can see 6 feet front of the car so we stopped and i just started swaring then my dad great calming me down told me we could watch trains next day but not the christmas train and then said well we no what to do next winter. Part 2 It was early december i looked on the site and it said it would be coming to brandon in a week so my dad and said it would be perfect because he was off work and could catch it in the morning head to its next destination it was a good so far u know how i new that on the news it said they caught saddam hussien i knew it was going to be awesome maybe best trip yet so we set off to Virden because the main runs along the trans canada to Brandon so we got Virden heard a horn so we drove to the closet crossing hoping it was it a little early but nope it was a Soo line SD60 and 2 CP sd40-2s with a westbound mix freight then we decided to stay and have breakfest at the hotel across the tracks right after we got done our meal heard another horn a westbound Mixed freight again led by a another emd SD90/43mac 9102 then we decide we should stay to wait for a next train a another emd 2 SD40-2s came roring throught i thought man we should see it today my favorite locomotive manufacture EMD was all the kind of engines we were all seeing and thought this is going to be the day we see the Christmas train then we drove along on the trans-canada highway then we saw the headlights of a train i saw 2 CP Red Barns 9012 and 9017 bring a westbound grain train then we didn't see anything after that tell we hit the Brandon Yard 2 Emd Sd40-2's in the CP multmark paint scheme with a Autorack/intermodal train ready to leave on a westbound trip to my best guess was Moose jaw or Swift Current then we drove over the bridge looking the entire yard to see if it was parked behind the train nope just 2 GP9u's and a GP38-2 parked ready to serve some local factories all emd then we decide to call it a day and head back to Virden then see one more train and leave and then we say the final of the day a CP 8600 series Ac4400cw a CEFX AC4400cw 1007 and then a CP AC4400cw in the 8500 series on a eastbound intermodal train to winnipeg then we left and then 2 days later we had a train in town and got to go up in the cab of the Engine and talk to the engineer and the first thing i asked was when was the Christmas train in brandon and when did it departure he said came in around 19:30 and left around 02:30 to broadview for there next stop. Then just this past week or so i was looking on the CP site and it said DECEMBER 11 coming to Brandon Manitoba then i told my dad he said were not missing it this time. So i am hoping we dont miss it again well thats my story but least i looked on the bright side least i saw almost every type of emd on cp's roster SD40-2 SD60 SD90/43mac sd40-2f GP38 GP9u all i missed was the SD40-2m GP40-2s and SW and MP switchers o well i had fun with my dad going train watch o and one note i even saw CSX coil car in the dark future scheme [:D]
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Sunday, November 7, 2004 11:33 PM
umm. . . lets seeee. . . .. I had a bad experience about a mounth ago. I was at school and was out in the auto tech shop to do a 4 wheel alighenment on a Nissan Sentra. Right in back of the school lays NS trackage, former PRR trackage. It doesn't get that much traffic in a day either. Then guess wut I heard the sound of a high speed train. I rushed outside to see. And all I saw was the tail end of the train which was a DTTX double stack 53' car. I didn't get the car number nor did I see the power, NOR did I have a camera :( CRAP!

Then about 4hrs. later I took the train back home I had to catch two trains. SEPTA 's R2 then the R8. When it was time for the R8 to travel a part of the NEC, from Market East Station to North Philly. Guess wut I saw two UP AC6000CWs pulling a loaded coal train. Most of the cars had CSXT reporting marks. But, I didn't have my camera :( My train was also traveling at about 70mph so I didn't get a chance to enjoy the train really :( ALSO I've never ever have seen UP power on the NEC.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 21, 2005 2:18 PM
See ***. See Jane. See *** and Jane. [;)]

See the train. See the train go by (and me with no camera in hand). [:(!] [:(] [V]

I went home and got the camera only to not be able to get to a place where I could get some shots of the train. [V] [:(]

Oh well, it was a pair of NS engines. The lead loco did have a decent sounding horn though. [:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:57 PM
Here's two bummers in two weeks.
In June, 1954, I was about to graduate from college. A classmate and I went out to chase a BM fan trip pulled by a 2-6-0. The reason we weren't aboard was that we had our bacalaureate service that afternoon. (RATS) While we were waiting for the fantrip, near Ayer MA we shot a WB freight in the siding. We got to talking with the crew and they invited us to go with them to East Deerfield. Under pain of severe parental pain and dismemberment, we had to refuse. (RATS, RATS)

The next weekend we had to miss the last steam run on the MEC due to our graduatioon. (RATS again)
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:46 AM
And one more from days of yore. In the early 70s I was working in Hartford CT and started out on a weekend trip to visit my father in northern VT. I caught a NB BM freight at Brattleboro and went up the line for another shot. I set up in a cut over corn field, nice curve, the whole bit. Train came, took a nice shot and got in the car and headed north as the sun was fading fast. A couple hours later I stopped in the Fairlee diner for a piece of their great pie and a coffee. As I got out of the car, I had a sinking feeling: "Where is the camera case?" Phone to Dad "I'll be a few hours late". Turn around and drive back below Bellows Falls and try to find the cornfield. Of course by now it's totally dark. I aim the car into the field andwith the light of the headlights,there is the camera case. As I was getting back in the car, a VT state trooper came along and asked what I was up to. I guess my explanation was so wierd he figured it must be the truth. So back on the I91 and finally, 5 hours late, at Dad's place.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:51 AM
Of course, I've had the usual sad stories of out of film, shutter not cocked, out of focus, film not winding on takeup reel, driving for hours to see the train disappear around the bend. What's somewhat wierd is that I would have dreams of some really neat train coming along and the camera is broken, film not advanced, the usual stuff. Even in dreams, I suffer the curse of the Railfan Bummer.
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, May 22, 2005 2:15 PM
I have this particular incidence happen to me twice . . .

I don't have a scanner or digital camera . . .

So this is what bites me . . . I'm trying to find out a certain Amtrak passenger car's

function and describing it to the chat room . . . no one knows what I'm
talking about . . .

I know . . . it sucks real bad . . .
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by joesap1 on Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:03 PM
Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Yesterday while on the way to work I had "another" bummer experience. Many times I can see a train on the way to work or on the way home from work. I heard the horn honking yesterday and tried to get close enough in time to get the engine numbers. But between traffic and the train going a little faster than usual I just couldn't get there in time to see the power. [:(] But I can tell you it was a mixed manifest freight.

Man, your posts on this subject are a real bummer alright. Do you EVER get the shot?
I feel your pain.
Trains can be amazingly silent. During my last outing in San Timateo Canyon, a train snuck up on me while I was reading in my truck. It was a good one too: Three engines at the front and two helpers at the rear.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 22, 2005 10:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joesap1



Man, your posts on this subject are a real bummer alright. Do you EVER get the shot?
I feel your pain.
Trains can be amazingly silent. During my last outing in San Timateo Canyon, a train snuck up on me while I was reading in my truck. It was a good one too: Three engines at the front and two helpers at the rear.



Hey Joe [8D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 4, 2005 10:58 PM
Earlier this week I decided to chase a train. It had a head start but I tried to catch up and see the power. I chased it all the way to the next town but because of traffic and duckunders I never could catch it. [:(] So I headed back to verify the "numbers" on a train in the siding and when I got back it was gone. [:(]

Two bummers in the same trip. [:(!]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:28 PM
Railfanning excuses not to go. [B)] [:0] [8]

Too HOT to railfan.

Too Humid to railfan.

Poison Ivy.

Mosquitoes.

Too Tired.

High Gas Prices.

Can anyone add to the list? [?]



Many times I see trains but can't get a number on the loco. That has been happening a lot lately.






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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 8:29 PM
seeing this was kind of a bummer.....

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

See ***. See Jane. See *** and Jane. [;)]

See the train. See the train go by (and me with no camera in hand). [:(!] [:(] [V]

I went home and got the camera only to not be able to get to a place where I could get some shots of the train. [V] [:(]

Oh well, it was a pair of NS engines. The lead loco did have a decent sounding horn though. [:o)]





Same thing here... only seeing CN power on the river line...no camera, no camcorder... come back to only see CSX power No offence but DANG[banghead][V][:(]

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Posted by northwesterner on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:09 PM
How about violating the 5 minute rule? The 5 minute rule is: if you are waiting for a train to come through and have decided to pack it in, within 5 minutes something will come through. Two examples from this past weekend.

A.I cross the UP tracks at Elmhurst-Chicago Stone co. I see the headlight of an eastbound manifest. I chase it all the way through Elmhurst. After it enters Ptoviso yard, I see the headlight of a westbound freight. I wait and wait and decide that freight is not going anywhere soon. I go back west to the Elmhust Metra station., run in to White Hen for a cool drink. I come out two minutes later, and there's a TOFC westbound doing 45+. Turns out it was a priority train out of Global I. The westbound I saw earlier was stopped to let the prioity pass. Missed the head end power.

B. Later the same day at Western Springs. I see nothing in either direction, so go get a choclate malt. while getting served I miss Amtrack at 70 fly through.
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Posted by stmtrolleyguy on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:31 PM
A few years ago I went to the local bridge to photograph a commuter run on the local commuter line, in the middle of winter, using a slightly outdated schedule. Well, I live on the middle of the line, where most trains terminate, although a few runs continue through to the very end around 20 miles further north. Well, in the part of the line to the north of where I live, there is a connector, and old siding connecting two lines together.

So here I am, on the bridge, waiting for a southbound train that should be coming through at 5 15. At 5 10, i check the schedule. The schedule goes blank a few stops north of where I am, but shows an arrival time at North Station in Boston, so I figure the train must run through with no stops.

At 5 20, i check the schedule again. Still no train. By 5 25, I was freezing, it was getting dark, and still no train.

Turns out that the train changes routes along the part of the line north of where I was, and changed to the other route to get back into the city faster on the lower volume route. I learned all this on the MBTA website, after standing on a bridge, with a camera, and a glove with a hole in it, in the dark, with a cold bike ride home, and no train.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:37 PM
An amount of time has passed since we have had any "Bummer" stories. Since it is warmer weather now I bet some of you guys and gals have a story or two you can share with it.

Soooooooo, let's hear your Bummer stories. [:p] [B)]





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Posted by silicon212 on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Get this, I live close enough to the tracks to hear the train horn during all kinds of weather. Recently a local tree service (hired by the city) has been cutting down trees and limbs from around our power lines and poles.

Today I was walking the dog and heard a train horn. It was a nice sounding horn not the usual blan horn that UP buys. I think the nice sounding horn was on a Southern Pacific unit. The nice sounding horn was just as loud as the UP horns but sounds so much better.

When I heard the horn I looked in the direction of the tracks and noticed that many of the trees that used to block my view of the tracks were gone or trimmed back greately. I was hopeing to see enough of the engine to varify that it was a S P unit. No such luck. What I did see was the smoke plume and tippy top of the engine but not good enough to get a color of the engine. Reminds me of the ol saying, "Can't see the forrest for the trees". It was a real bummer to be able to see the smoke plume but not the train. I could tell exactly when the lead engine was but couldn't see it. [:(] [:(] [:(]

That is my railfan bummer. What is YOURS ?


I know this is more than two years old, but I didn't see a full answer to your questions here although one did touch on the horns that UP uses nowadays on most stuff - and that's the Nathan/Airchime K3LA - but UP also has a bunch of Leslie S3L Supertyphon horns as well. SP used mostly the Nathan P3 horn and this is perhaps what you referred to. I, too, feel the sound of the P3 was/is the best sounding diesel horn. Late last week I saw a local running a pair of SP GP units - one the unpatched GP40-2M 7135 and the other a patched GP60 # 1919. The 7135 has its original P3 while the 1919 (came with a P3) had its P3 switched for a K3LA. I just don't like those - they're too high pitched.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:54 PM
For me was Missing BNSF 7687 because I had school, that made me mad and I am still mad to this day.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by silicon212

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Get this, I live close enough to the tracks to hear the train horn during all kinds of weather. Recently a local tree service (hired by the city) has been cutting down trees and limbs from around our power lines and poles.

Today I was walking the dog and heard a train horn. It was a nice sounding horn not the usual blan horn that UP buys. I think the nice sounding horn was on a Southern Pacific unit. The nice sounding horn was just as loud as the UP horns but sounds so much better.

When I heard the horn I looked in the direction of the tracks and noticed that many of the trees that used to block my view of the tracks were gone or trimmed back greately. I was hopeing to see enough of the engine to varify that it was a S P unit. No such luck. What I did see was the smoke plume and tippy top of the engine but not good enough to get a color of the engine. Reminds me of the ol saying, "Can't see the forrest for the trees". It was a real bummer to be able to see the smoke plume but not the train. I could tell exactly when the lead engine was but couldn't see it. [:(] [:(] [:(]

That is my railfan bummer. What is YOURS ?


I know this is more than two years old, but I didn't see a full answer to your questions here although one did touch on the horns that UP uses nowadays on most stuff - and that's the Nathan/Airchime K3LA - but UP also has a bunch of Leslie S3L Supertyphon horns as well. SP used mostly the Nathan P3 horn and this is perhaps what you referred to. I, too, feel the sound of the P3 was/is the best sounding diesel horn. Late last week I saw a local running a pair of SP GP units - one the unpatched GP40-2M 7135 and the other a patched GP60 # 1919. The 7135 has its original P3 while the 1919 (came with a P3) had its P3 switched for a K3LA. I just don't like those - they're too high pitched.



Actually I never did get an answer to my burning question. [:(] I was not able to see a color below the top of the engine and at the time I was not able to start a chase of it. However, I did learn that UP was buying some of the better sounding horns. The Heritage units have 5 chime horns and they sound much better than the normal 3 chime they most of the UP units have.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

Hey guys, [:)][:D][8D]

Regarding Jhh's story. I'm curious! [;)]

Does anyone know what type of horn the UP typically uses. I know it's not the popular K5La. I've seen pictures of 3 chimers on a lot of the units. I wonder if Jhh heard a K5H or K5LA, both which according to many railfans (yes, me too) have very melodic sounds. CSX and NS use these horns on a lot of their road locomotives and of course, these units have been running on UP's tracks quite a bit in the past 2 years.

Good websites to hear and learn the differences between locomotive horns. On your search engine (I use MSN) type "Five Chime Horn Consultants" and also "Chris' Train Horns". Jhhtrainsplanes if you go to these sights, you might be able to hear what you heard recently.[tup][^]

Hope you enjoy it! Peace out!

Antonio, know you posted this a while ago, but.........

Today, typically all new units (wether they're UP or not) come with Nathan K5LLAR24s. These are different than regular K5LAR24s as they sound choked. UP's vast fleet of SD40-2s and older locomotives typically have Leslie S3Ls.
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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:40 PM
Last year, on my vacation, (Long after this topic had been started) I heard that 2816 was making a trip west. So I got my new telephoto from a few days before, tripod, and headed down to a new location that I wanted to try. I set up my tape recorder, my tripos and camera, snap a lot of pictures, and learn that someone kept talking in the background of my tape. (Swearing at the ditchlights and more) so I thought "Oh well, at least I still got the fillm".
We then started our vacation. Saw some SD40-2Fs, multimarks, BNSF 9647, some unpathced warbonnets, all the BNSF SD70MAC schemes, and a bunch of UP, and I started getting suspicious at picture 37... THE FILM WASN'T WOUND ON!!!!!!!
Everything from Calgary to North Platte, GONE!!!!
WAAAGH!
This eclipses any time that i've missed 2816!

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Posted by edbenton on Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:46 PM
Try having all the pics of 2 cabrides you got one in steam and one in a diesel. The diesel was even an ALCO. My ex wife delelted every pic of both of those cabrides I am so mad at her it is not even funny.
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Posted by Lord Atmo on Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 PM
one i was in Altoona waiting for a train that was sitting idle at the end of the yard to leave. i kept waiting and waiting and waiting. till i realized it was 10:00 PM and i lived 30 minutes away and had to bike home. when i was about to leave, so was the train.... i came home at midnight that night

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edbenton

Try having all the pics of 2 cabrides you got one in steam and one in a diesel. The diesel was even an ALCO. My ex wife delelted every pic of both of those cabrides I am so mad at her it is not even funny.



I think SHE should be sleeping in the doghouse for a long time for that.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 24, 2006 8:16 PM
i was watching a race yesterday and steamtrains got beaton by a tigermoth plane and i got hit by the plane yestaday my brother was making me mad by laughing at me i just hit him in the face and brused him.
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Posted by edbenton on Monday, April 24, 2006 10:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by edbenton

Try having all the pics of 2 cabrides you got one in steam and one in a diesel. The diesel was even an ALCO. My ex wife delelted every pic of both of those cabrides I am so mad at her it is not even funny.



I think SHE should be sleeping in the doghouse for a long time for that.


Actually I left her behind in WI
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Posted by FThunder11 on Monday, April 24, 2006 10:24 PM
My bummer is heading out to the tracks to hear TONS of chatter on the scanner, and not seeing one train after sitting for 4 hours!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 11:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by FThunder11

My bummer is heading out to the tracks to hear TONS of chatter on the scanner, and not seeing one train after sitting for 4 hours!!


I would not wait that long. Actually I wouldn't have to around here. It is very busy. About 85 trains a day (I think that is the correct total I heard a while back) pass through, terminate, or originate here in North Little Rock.

But I feel for you Kevin. [:(]

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Posted by spbed on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 12:11 PM
Not me personally but another railfan that I met @ Daggett on my last trip in March who was from Southampton UK reported to me he ran into the BNSF thugs at Armadillo & that they were extremely rude to him. I do not know if he was on public or BNSF property at the time. [:(]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

An amount of time has passed since we have had any "Bummer" stories. Since it is warmer weather now I bet some of you guys and gals have a story or two you can share with it.

Soooooooo, let's hear your Bummer stories. [:p] [B)]






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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 6:58 PM
Keep those Bummer railfan stories coming. [:)]

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