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Hot Spots within 4 hours of Detriot
Posted by Caso.Sub on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:20 AM

Hey Everyone

I was wondering if anyone knew of any hot spots within 4 hours of Detriot.

The ones that come to my mind are Fostoria, Blue Island, and Fort Wayne.

Any other ones?

Thanks
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:06 AM

Just so happens someone else asked the same question not long ago:

http://cs.trains.com/forums/1407607/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by rrnut282 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:07 AM
You don't have to go all the way to Fort Wayne.  Take US6 East from I69 to Butler, IN.  The ex Wabash crosses the ex-NYC main.  Over 100 trains a day there. 
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:09 AM
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Posted by Caso.Sub on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:16 AM

Does Butler have on particular spot and is it accessible?

Fostoria or Blue Island??

What's so great about fostoria??

 

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Posted by n012944 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:32 AM
 Caso.Sub wrote:

Does Butler have on particular spot and is it accessible?

Fostoria or Blue Island??

What's so great about fostoria??

 

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Fostoria has A LOT of trains through it, and they are constructing a railfan park.  Vickers in Toledo also has a lot of action to it, however there might be tresspassing issues there, I do not know.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:51 AM

Butler doesn't have any particular spot since NS put up the fence behind the bowling alley.  US 6 runs parallel to the NYC Waterlevel Route and East of town the right-of-ways adjoin.  You might try the pancake house.  It sits on the Wabash and has a good view of the NYC line, too. 

Fostoria has former C&O, B&O, and NKP lines (all two-tracks through town) cross to form an "Iron Triangle".  The diamonds are visble from public roads and about 1/4 mile (about .5 km) apart from one another.  With a scanner you can hear trains call the Fostoria tower for clearance and drive back and forth between the interlockings.

Fort Wayne has plenty (around 100 daily) of trains also, and it's almost all NS.  There are several busy interlockings in town that I could show you if I'm back in-state.  As a bonus there is a fair-sized yard, and the Triple Crown hub, so you'll see lots of roadrailers. 

The former PRR main from Fort Wayne to Chicago went to CSX during the Conrail split, but NS dispatches it.  CSX is currently leasing that track to a short-line Chicago, Fort Wayne & Eastern that runs one to three trains a day each way.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:27 PM

Deshler Ohio would fit the bill nicely.Its where the B&O toledo sub crosses the garrett and willard subs(three dispatchers working together).it also has 3 wye tracks so you don't know whose going to go first.In Butler Indiana there is a parking lot near the library that you can watch trains from.The NYC museum in elkhart has also installed a viewing platform at their museum too.Another spot is St.Joe indiana where the wabash line crosses the B&O just west of town but you need to take some backroads to get to it.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:00 PM
Who came up with the notion that Blue Island is within 4 hours of Detroit?
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Posted by J. Edgar on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:08 PM
 the distance from down town Detroit to Chicago along I-94 is do-able in "about" 4 hours...and thats not violating MAS (maxium authorized speed)...its only 278 miles...ive made the trip many times to railfan around Chicago....granted i live about 45 minutes west of Detroit but im 30 minutes north of I-94....Blue island ..sure 4.5 hours.....but when your railfanning whos gonna pick nits?Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Caso.Sub on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:09 PM

Its actually 5 1/2 hrs from Port Huron. All class 1's go through Blue Island right? CN, UP, CSX, CP, BNSF, but I don't remember NS or KCS.

Any thoughts??

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Posted by J. Edgar on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:10 PM
 n012944 wrote:
 Caso.Sub wrote:

Does Butler have on particular spot and is it accessible?

Fostoria or Blue Island??

What's so great about fostoria??

 

CASO

Fostoria has A LOT of trains through it, and they are constructing a railfan park.  Vickers in Toledo also has a lot of action to it, however there might be tresspassing issues there, I do not know.

vickers isnt that accessable....but who cares...you can sit in downtown Wallbridge on the sidewalk and see Wallbridge twr....and its less then 2 hours from Detroit....
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:12 PM

Yeah, Blue Island is, for all intents and purposes, Chicago.

Durand is 67 miles from Detroit (by rail, anyway), and a good place for watching CN mainline activity.  The station at the diamond alone is worth the trip.

Plymouth, near Ann Arbor, is a fully-connected crossing of CSX's Detroit-Grand Rapids and Toledo-Flint main lines.  Not as busy as it used to be, but plenty of amenities nearby.

For sheer quantity, it would be hard to top Fostoria.

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Posted by Caso.Sub on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:15 PM

Which has more variery Fostoria or Blue Island? Which has more trains??

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:19 PM
 Caso.Sub wrote:
It's actually 5 1/2 hrs from Port Huron. All class 1's go through Blue Island right? CN, UP, CSX, CP, BNSF, but I don't remember NS or KCS.

Any thoughts??

CASO

The only Class 1 lines that actually operate through Blue Island are CSX and CN.  The variety in what you see comes from the Indiana Harbor Belt, on which trains of just about any railroad can be seen from time to time.  Metra, Iowa Interstate, Chicago Rail Link, and CSX also go over near the crossing on a bridge.  KCS doesn't really serve Chicago.

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Posted by Caso.Sub on Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:58 AM
Which has more variery Fostoria or Blue Island? Which has more trains??
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Posted by n012944 on Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:03 AM

 Caso.Sub wrote:
Which has more variery Fostoria or Blue Island? Which has more trains??

For variety I would go with Blue Island, for sheer number of trains I would think Fostoria would win out.  That being said it is not like you will be watching the grass grow at Blue Island, either.

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Posted by J. Edgar on Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:03 AM
 CShaveRR wrote:

Yeah, Blue Island is, for all intents and purposes, Chicago.

Durand is 67 miles from Detroit (by rail, anyway), and a good place for watching CN mainline activity.  The station at the diamond alone is worth the trip.

Plymouth, near Ann Arbor, is a fully-connected crossing of CSX's Detroit-Grand Rapids and Toledo-Flint main lines.  Not as busy as it used to be, but plenty of amenities nearby.

For sheer quantity, it would be hard to top Fostoria.

Doo-Ran is a busy place....on week days..there are 2 shortlines in town...the Great Lakes Central (former TSBY) goes thru town twice a day and the Central Michigan is based there...using the old GTW yard running 2 or 3 lines out of town...the Durand Union Depot Museum is neat with many photos and goodies and a HO scale model railroad..the town itself remembers is RR heritage with a small railside park and a good place to eat called the Railroader Tavern...as well as a seperate museum with a GTW pacific behind a fence and the museum is in a formwer GTW passenger car
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Posted by J. Edgar on Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:12 PM

heres the Durand Union Depot....the GT/CN ...to the right of the station is the current GLC(TSBY nee AA) which is shared with other lines thru Doo-ran ...meaning CN and Central Michigan..this last line houses engines here...to the left of the station were the parking lot is there used to be another main as the old Ann Arbor thru here had its own track... theres wyes in all 4 quadrents although i think the one over the photographers (my) right shoulder has been removed..the yard and former full circle roundhouse is also behind to the right... the turntable was there upto around 95 or 96 i believe....anyway Doo-ran is a cool place to spend some time railfanning

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Posted by rrnut282 on Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:13 PM

 Caso.Sub wrote:
Which has more variery Fostoria or Blue Island? Which has more trains??

I think it depends upon whether you want to see road railer trains or not.  Either location you will see autorack, stack, pig, coal, unit grain, and general merchandise trains.

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Posted by Caso.Sub on Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:54 PM

If I wanted to see CN, I would just go to Hyde Park less than 30 mins from me and watch the CN and CP mainlines

Other than Blue Island, what are other good spots are there that are very similar in number of trains and vairety??

CASO

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