big reds heading east

[JoeKoh]

on my way out from work I saw ns hauling some big red combines heading east on the nyc main going to toledo.hope someone else can get a good shot.we saw some john deere green in elkhart last week.

stay safe

joe

[mudchicken]

(Just once, turn those things loose in lower Manhattan with the workheads on....)

[carnej1]

(Just once, turn those things loose in lower Manhattan with the workheads on....)

 Given the very traumatic events that happened a few years ago in lower Manhattan...perhaps that quip should have been kept to yourself?

[CShaveRR]

We get the reds and the greens through here regularly, and I think most of them are destined for export via Baltimore.  The green John Deere tractors fit comfortably on their flat cars, and don't require clearance.  'Twould be interesting to see a catalog; a batch of these usually contains four or more different models (7830, 7930, 8530, others).

The red ones are Case International Harvester, and they are combines, as opposed to tractors--usually two different models, which look nothing like each other.  Because these loads are wider than the flats they're riding on, they need special handling and clearance to move beyond the yard.

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

About the only thing I can do with these is point 'em in the right direction (green to Conway, red to hold for IHB), let 'em down easy, and watch for problems (broken tiedowns, flat tires, broken window glass).  None of that will be hump damage if I catch it first!

[mudchicken]

Doesn't excuse them from not knowing where their cereal & bread comes from. (or how the rest of the country works)....more than just a commodity to be traded.

[Ishmael]

Doesn't excuse them from not knowing where their cereal & bread comes from. (or how the rest of the country works)....more than just a commodity to be traded.

That doesn't apply just to NY folks, though. We have people here in St. Louis who think that all their foodstuffs are grown by hand in the Ozarks. I venture to say you have such people in Denver also.

As the man said, better left unsaid.

 

[inch53]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

[CShaveRR]

Inch, now that you mention the name, New Holland is definitely what I saw.

[anb740]

We have people here in St. Louis who think that all their foodstuffs are grown by hand in the Ozarks. I venture to say you have such people in Denver also.

There is famous Amish restaurant close to where I live that is surrounded by farmland.  The tourists who come here to eat (roughly 75-150 a day) swear the owners grow all of their own food by hand.  Boy are they shocked when I tell them to look at the 3 pound food cans sitting in the dumpster out back!

[mudchicken]

We have people here in St. Louis who think that all their foodstuffs are grown by hand in the Ozarks. I venture to say you have such people in Denver also.

There is famous Amish restaurant close to where I live that is surrounded by farmland.  The tourists who come here to eat (roughly 75-150 a day) swear the owners grow all of their own food by hand.  Boy are they shocked when I tell them to look at the 3 pound food cans sitting in the dumpster out back!

ooooooH! - How does Jeremiah Fahmer get those cans to grow so beeeeg?

[videomaker]

We have people here in St. Louis who think that all their foodstuffs are grown by hand in the Ozarks. I venture to say you have such people in Denver also.

There is famous Amish restaurant close to where I live that is surrounded by farmland.  The tourists who come here to eat (roughly 75-150 a day) swear the owners grow all of their own food by hand.  Boy are they shocked when I tell them to look at the 3 pound food cans sitting in the dumpster out back!

ooooooH! - How does Jeremiah Fahmer get those cans to grow so beeeeg?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !NOW THATS FUNNY I DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE..

[Murphy Siding]

We have people here in St. Louis who think that all their foodstuffs are grown by hand in the Ozarks. I venture to say you have such people in Denver also.

There is famous Amish restaurant close to where I live that is surrounded by farmland.  The tourists who come here to eat (roughly 75-150 a day) swear the owners grow all of their own food by hand.  Boy are they shocked when I tell them to look at the 3 pound food cans sitting in the dumpster out back!

Duh!  He fertilizes them with *homemade* horse manure of course.

ooooooH! - How does Jeremiah Fahmer get those cans to grow so beeeeg?

[jeffhergert]

 

The red ones are Case International Harvester, and they are combines, as opposed to tractors--usually two different models, which look nothing like each other.  Because these loads are wider than the flats they're riding on, they need special handling and clearance to move beyond the yard.

 

Those Case-IH combines come out of their Grand Island plant.  About an every day occurance right now on the MGICB & MCBPR trains. 

Because of their size, they are good for a page or two of restrictions.  Examples like 25 MPH at MP so and so, use track one only over plate girder bridge at MP so and so, etc.  

Jeff 

[Chris30]

Where do the green John Deere tractors get loaded at? I know it's somewhere between Des Moines and Clinton. John Deere also has offices in the Quad Cities.

CC

[doghouse]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

Ah, New Holland (Ford) has a blue paint scheme, no? 

[MP173]

Last fall there was a red train in the siding at Porter, just to the rear of my place of employment.  I went out back and took a photo, then talked to the crew.   They had a 10mph restriction and had to stop for every passing train. 

Let's see, Chciago to Baltimore is about 700 miles, 10mph with stops, etc...must be a week transit time.  Does anyone know for sure?  Should be a nice revenue train.

ed

[steam_marc]

Where do the green John Deere tractors get loaded at? I know it's somewhere between Des Moines and Clinton. John Deere also has offices in the Quad Cities.

CC

I believe John Deere has a large plant in Decatur, IL, that manufactures the combines and loads them.

[jeffhergert]

Where do the green John Deere tractors get loaded at? I know it's somewhere between Des Moines and Clinton. John Deere also has offices in the Quad Cities.

CC

The John Deere tractors come out of Waterloo, Iowa.  They are taken to Cedar Rapids on the Iowa Northern and interchanged to the UP there.  I think the UP has access to the plant at Waterloo, but this is a small remnant of the CNW/CGW that was there.  The only access UP has to it's trackage at Waterloo is by haulage rights. 

Ankeny, Iowa also has a John Deere plant. 

Jeff

[route_rock]

  Tractor plant is Waterloo Iowa, Construction equipment Davenport works,Combines East Moline Harvester lant, Plow Planter Moline,Ankeny  am not sure.

   The big tractors going to baltimore get on a ship for overseas and the little deres from Manheim come off and go to dealers in the US. ( Hauled that a lot when I was OTR)

  Combines are loaded at both Deere East Moline and a private company right next door( farmed out to them as Deere calls it when they eliminate their own forces and pass off to a contractor)Construction equipment can be loaded at Davenport( actualy its Mt Joy on the old Milwaukee line)and of course Waterloo has rail. No rail access to Plow Planter anymore,used to be the DRI&NW in the old days. Tracks went behind the plant along the Sylvan slough ( Milwaukee road originally)While River Drive in Moline was actually a rail yard for the Rock Island  south side of same plant)

  Part of Plow Planter is actualy the old Veile Motor works, Mr Viele made cars and monocoup airplanes in the early part of the 20th century.

  Case used to load their combines in East Moline through a company I worked for.When New Holland bought them out and shut it all down we closed that shop and watched as they tore down the old Case plant.The track we used for loading was actually a spur into Deere Harvester that coal loads would be shoved in when they still took coal by rail for the power plant.Now thats all done by truck.

  If the Rock Island and Peoria line wouldnt have  been cut in the 50's they would have had a spur into John Deere PDC. But with nothing past the Milan industrial park there was no need and now it would be impossible practically as there are levees in place now.Plus PDC trucks basiclly LCL stuff anyway.

 

[inch53]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

Ah, New Holland (Ford) has a blue paint scheme, no? 

New Holland combines are a yellow, here's a links for a photos.

http://www.newholland.com/h4/products/products_lines.asp?Reg=NA&RL=ENNA&NavID=000001277003

 

Ford/ New Holland tractors are blue and used that name into the mid 90's, when the Ford name was dropped, but they still carry blue paint. Here's a link to a brief history of them.

http://www.toytractorshow.com/newholland.htm

inch

[doghouse]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

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Ah, New Holland (Ford) has a blue paint scheme, no? 

New Holland combines are a yellow, here's a links for a photos.

http://www.newholland.com/h4/products/products_lines.asp?Reg=NA&RL=ENNA&NavID=000001277003

 

Ford/ New Holland tractors are blue and used that name into the mid 90's, when the Ford name was dropped, but they still carry blue paint. Here's a link to a brief history of them.

http://www.toytractorshow.com/newholland.htm

inch

So I see.  Since we don't see many (if any) combines up here in potato country, and everything New Holland up here is blue, well... just figured

[SALfan]

ooooooH! - How does Jeremiah Fahmer get those cans to grow so beeeeg?

DUH!!  He has a giant can tree, of course.  Or three, or a whole orchard.  A whole orchard of giant can trees makes a heck of a racket in a thunderstorm, with the wind blowing the limbs around making the cans bump into one another and the rain hitting the cans.

(Putting down the crack pipe now.)

[SALfan]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

I could be wrong, but I thought an outfit called AGCO bought at least the tractor portion of Allis-Chalmers.  I know for sure New Holland bought Ford's agricultural division (my brother has a New Holland tractor, still Ford Blue).  Believe AGCO also bought Massey-Ferguson. 

[Nora]

We get the reds and the greens through here regularly, and I think most of them are destined for export via Baltimore.  The green John Deere tractors fit comfortably on their flat cars, and don't require clearance.  'Twould be interesting to see a catalog; a batch of these usually contains four or more different models (7830, 7930, 8530, others).

On a slow day at work recently I counted at least nine different model numbers on a train going past my tower at work. I said it was a SLOW day...

[inch53]

On a couple of occasions I saw a bunch of yellow combines.  They looked like they were made by Case for another company--same general appearance.

Those yeller ones a probably New Holland, they bought Gleaner [AC] out in the early 80's. They bought the tractor division a few years later.

inch

I could be wrong, but I thought an outfit called AGCO bought at least the tractor portion of Allis-Chalmers.  I know for sure New Holland bought Ford's agricultural division (my brother has a New Holland tractor, still Ford Blue).  Believe AGCO also bought Massey-Ferguson. 

Your right on AGCO, my mistake, I don't remember hearing of them till now. Also after the 2 AC/Gleener dealers closed here in the county, the only place we could get parts was through the Ford/New Holland dealer [who'd been an AC dealer] 35 mile away.

After pushing some buttons here, I found out their a big player today in farm equipment.

http://www.agcocorp.com/default.cfm/PID=1.3.4

inch