garr wrote: Magazines are broken down into signatures of either 8 or 16 pages, which one a particular magazine uses depends on the type of press, webb or sheet feed, being used. So the next step up in size for the March issue of Trains would have been either to 72 or 80 pages. Even at 64 pages, the March issue was probably already high on the editorial/article side of the ratio shared with ad pages. To insert another 8 or 16 pages of editorial/articles probably would have not been economically feasible.Jay
Magazines are broken down into signatures of either 8 or 16 pages, which one a particular magazine uses depends on the type of press, webb or sheet feed, being used. So the next step up in size for the March issue of Trains would have been either to 72 or 80 pages.
Even at 64 pages, the March issue was probably already high on the editorial/article side of the ratio shared with ad pages. To insert another 8 or 16 pages of editorial/articles probably would have not been economically feasible.
Jay
Great point. BTW, a sheet-fed press usually prints one color (of four) at a time on one huge piece of paper. Usually reserved for extremely "fine" reproductions on very expensive paper. Highest quality, but S L O W.
Most magzines use the other and faster type of press -- an offset web.
Because of the page size newspapers run 4-page signatures, say an "average" page size of 11 wide by 17 deep. That's to the width (22 inches) from left to right if you pull a single sheet out of your paper, printed both sides for 4 newspaper pages -- or 8 magazine pages, which are roughly 8.5 x 11 inches or so. The paper comes in huge rolls and is wound through multiple press units arranged in a long row -- known as the "web". The last stage is folding with a cut as it comes off the press. An entire magazine can be printed at once using a web press with enough units. It only needs to have the cover (made of heavier stock for durability) wrapped around it, stitched (stapled along the fold) and trimmed to the final size.
So like garr says, adding another signature can cost ten-thousands of dollars.
My guess is Kalmbach prints its magazines on a heat-set web press. The paper it uses is "coated" with a thin layer of a substance like varnish or china clay which doesn't absorb ink like newsprint (the ink spreads about 20% like touching a felt marker to a paper towel). But on coated (enamel) paper the ink doesn't dry as fast as on absorbent newsprint so it passes through heaters to set (dry) the ink before folding. Ergo, the heat-set web.
Weekly national magazines like Time, Newsweek and Sports Illustrated are done this way -- at as many as four or five presses running the same issue simultaneously in different parts of the country. (Sometimes each issue contains regionalized ads -- ads that are targeted to a specific geographic area.) That means they can print them FAST and your copy doesn't have to survive cross-country snail mail before it hits your mailbox.
This video is a little dated, but shows the principles.
Magazine printing video 60 seconds
Bucyrus wrote: I wonder what is the current trend of the circulation of Trains?
It is not very good. I believe circulation peaked at something like 120,000 in the early 1990s, fed by those 100+ page issues full of ads for videos (what happened to Pentrex?). Now it is something like 80,000, isn't it ? The average age of the readers is going up as well, as not enough young people are buying Trains.
I just want to thank Andy for dropping in with an official word from Kalmbach. It's nice to hear straight from the source.
I also appreciate PZ and Jay giving such good insight into the production and finance end of the publishing business. It's easier to accept things when you understand a bit of the reasoning behind them.
Regards
Ed
nanaimo73 wrote: Bucyrus wrote: I wonder what is the current trend of the circulation of Trains? It is not very good. I believe circulation peaked at something like 120,000 in the early 1990s, fed by those 100+ page issues full of ads for videos (what happened to Pentrex?). Now it is something like 80,000, isn't it ? The average age of the readers is going up as well, as not enough young people are buying Trains.
...Kathi:
I believe I come down on your side leaning to hearing 3 or 4 hard working diesels down almost on their knees pulling a consist up a grade.
I've heard many of both....steam and diesel and maybe I'm just a bit more interested hearing the internal combustion engines working full throttle to get up the grade.
At least one doesn't get covered with cinders as one did with the other kind of power. Of course, I did enjoy the massive machinery they certainly did represent. So many moving parts as they passed, groundshaking too....Awesome...!
Quentin
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Chefjavier,
Can you email me ?I have a question for you about the Austin Metro start up..
I want to ask some questions that I dont think need to be ask here...Thanks
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