Q Bergie or Mike: Would it be possible to have the graphical representation of the votes included on the voting page?
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jimmyjam58 wrote: did you all vote for her side because she is a women or you dont like steam engines. I'll take a photo of a steam engine any day,,any day as compared to a diesel electric!!!! jimmiyjam58
did you all vote for her side because she is a women or you dont like steam engines. I'll take a photo of a steam engine any day,,any day as compared to a diesel electric!!!!
jimmiyjam58
My vote was for a red engine in the snow over a night shot of a steam loco. And that was initial gut reaction from the email for the voting and confirmed by viewing the post and larger shots.
Gender? ...
And, as was revealed in the recap, the bridge shot was on recommendation of Mike, so what's your thought now jimmiyjam58?
Further, I like steam. Did I say "... I like steam." I actually meant to say "... I LOVE steam! "
In this situation, as someone else mentioned, Mike's shot might have been a more appealing shot if it had been in B&W. Somehow I do not think that the result would have altered much if any.
Was there any thing I "did not" or "did" like about Mike's shot? ... Um? Cannot say. If the voting had been two 1003 shots, then things might be different. My nomination would be for Kathi's shot vs Mike's "racing" shot. Then I would probably go with Kathi's shot as its a country shot vs a town shot.
I picked the steam photo as best becuse as I sat in my overly warm apartment the steam loco sent a cold chill thru my body.
A Great Shot on a cold night!
LU-Trains wrote:Red engine got my vote.
Ahhhh... back to the comfort of almost entirely mono-syllabic words. Just kidding Lu-Trains, I like reading your comments!
Great photos this week. You just gotta love the live steam shots, but oh that red and white loco in the snow was just perfect. I just had to go with Kathi. Good job to both!
And to whoever brought up the issue of gender, my decision had nothing to do with it and you should be ashamed of yourself to think that the people here are biased. The rules are pretty simple, two people submit thier photos, everybody votes and may the best shot win.
Given the quality of the discussion here for the last few years, I am appalled that anybody would even suggest that gender would factor into our decissions. I think you owe us an appology.
...I understand the question of whether gender entered into our decision....But, I believe the question at hand in each of these photos to judge....is to pick out the most appealing and attractive and perhaps difficultity of the shot. And then the final result. Not whether it's a steam engine and or a diesel or even whether it was a lady that took said photo.
Quentin
I'll bite. Hardly anyone who posted a comment left without praising Mike's shot and noting that it was a tough decision, myself included. I think that for most people, Kathi's shot just caught their eye moreso than Mike's.
To reiterate my original post - to frame and hang on my wall, it's the steamer, hands down. But as to which shot got my attention, it was Kathi's. Gender was not an issue.
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Partsman_ba wrote:"Good" is indeed in the eye of the beholder! I voted for Mike's shot! Reasons:Kathi's shot is of a bridge (main subject) with a train on it. Maybe a smaller aperture would have brought the train into better focus - you had some room at 1/1000! Not knowing the location, I'm not sure if you could have gotten a higher vantage point to put more emphasis on the engines as well.Mike's shot is of a train engine, and the effects possible when shooting at night with a tripod. The main subject is most definitely the engine.Not sure that Mike's shot required greater skill, just perserverence, experimentation and a good tripod. Beautiful work!
"Good" is indeed in the eye of the beholder! I voted for Mike's shot! Reasons:
Kathi's shot is of a bridge (main subject) with a train on it. Maybe a smaller aperture would have brought the train into better focus - you had some room at 1/1000! Not knowing the location, I'm not sure if you could have gotten a higher vantage point to put more emphasis on the engines as well.
Mike's shot is of a train engine, and the effects possible when shooting at night with a tripod. The main subject is most definitely the engine.
Not sure that Mike's shot required greater skill, just perserverence, experimentation and a good tripod. Beautiful work!
That bridge is 10-20 feet higher than the road that runs there. Need a cherry picker to get a higher angle on it. The tracks run on a good size fill/ridge there.
Here is an older shot on the bridge. The circus train is following the E-units, heading north. Must have been a little warm that day.
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I found MIke's photo, and all of his 1003 shots, to be at least equal to what I would expect to see in a transportation, science and/or art museum. Simpley awesome!! Kathi's photos were also excellent, but seemed to be more from real life than from a museum. I only wish I was able to have my photos turn out as well as any of these.
My vote went to Kathi as I feel hers is more representative of what I would see in real life. MIike's is a dream come true, and something I may never see in person. While I will continue to pursue my dreams, reality wins this week. And who said steam was a sure winner??
WSOR 3801 wrote:Where exactly is that bridge? I've probably been over it a thousand times by now. There is a decent bridge between Iron Ridge and Woodland, right on Highway WS, that might make for a good picture as well.
....Thanks Carl, for your answer on the CNW caboose....{Sorry for the delayed response back to you}.
LU-Trains wrote:I could go on, but last month Chris in Denver got so peeved at my expository remarks, I fear I spoiled his day - and not wanting to cause any unnecessary agitation in this new year, I shall sum up my choice as simply as possible . . . Red engine got my vote.
Is the patronization really necessary?
-ChrisWest Chicago, ILChristopher May Fine Art Photography"In wisdom gathered over time I have found that every experience is a form of exploration." ~Ansel Adams
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I went with Kathi's shot. Good work!
I would have voted for Mike if he would have used the going-away shot. That is *classic* stuff!
CopCarSS wrote:Mike, I really liked the good range of tone throughout your shot. Not only was the shot exceptional, the post-processing brought out the best of it. Nicely done.
I appreciate the compliment, Chris, but should clarify that there was virtually no post-production work done to this shot. Adjusted the white balance slightly, nothing else.
For me Kathi is a clear winner. There it is - the atmosphere, good angle, good composition... Even her shot of the #1003 is the best of all steamer shots - action, smoke, no railfans in sight - a classic shot of the steam! Bravo!
Misko
CopCarSS wrote: ....the post-processing brought out the best of it. Nicely done.
....the post-processing brought out the best of it. Nicely done.
WHAT? I thought these shots were supposed to be "right out of the camera".
Now this is what it's about. It's nice to see awesome photography making a comeback in Trackside. There have been some really great shots in the recent editions.
It was really tough to pick this week, but I really liked Mike's #1003 shot. Kathi, yours is a great example of winter railroading, but it seemed a little soft to me and didn't draw me in like Mike's shot. Mike, I really liked the good range of tone throughout your shot. Not only was the shot exceptional, the post-processing brought out the best of it. Nicely done.
D-Halv wrote:I am still speechless...completely stunned...did not see this coming...
Perhaps the people that work for magazines look at the skill required to take the picture, while the people that buy the magazines judge photographs by how good they look. Kathi's picture looks better.
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