Railroad History Quiz Game (Come on in and play)

[arkansasrailfan]

 Did someone mention M&StL in the Miss River Crossings? Or am I just getting blind in my old age?

No.

[oltmannd]

I came up with 24 and they are the following

1 IC 2 CB&Q 3 GN 4 NP 5 C&NW 6 CGW 7 CRI&P 8 CMSTP&P 9 NYC 10 PRR 11 B&O 12 SOU

13 L&N 14 WAB 15 StLSW 16 SP (T&NO) 17 GM&O 18 MP (T&P) 19 Cotton Belt 20 AT&SF

21 SOO 22 IT 23 KCS 24 NKP 25 N&W

Al - in - Stockton

In the 1950's the N&W didn't go west of Cincinnati....what train of their went across the Miss?.   Wouldn't a lot of those that crossed at St.L. be tenant's ala the UP on Milw and C&NW?

[mudchicken]

Did C&EI sneak-in on TRRA, A&S, IT or Manufacturer's?

Did Frisco sneak across the river to hook-up via A&S?

[oltmannd]

I can't give you individual locomotive numbers but think there's one each painted in the colors of the MoPac, MKT, CNW, SP and D&RGW making a total of five units. There may be a sixth painted in the livery of the WP but I'm not sure of that.

Mark 

Yes, there's a WP and a Bush 41, but that's not technically a "heritage".  They also did a pair of non-heritage units for the Salt Lake City winter Olympics.  There was an SD40-2 for Desert Storm - don' know if it's still roaming around in cammo, tho'.

Hmmm.. Can't think of any more.

[CShaveRR]

The Desert Storm unit was long since restored to original paint (and may no longer be around).  UP also repainted a couple of units for the 1996 Olympics, but they too were restored to their original paint.  SD40-2 3300 has been floating around in a special blue paint scheme for United Way.

I'm not sure what's meant by "Heritage" units, because there were only the six of those in the special paint schemes.  However, the questioner may have a 2008 UP calendar in front of him...

[KCSfan]

 Did someone mention M&StL in the Miss River Crossings? Or am I just getting blind in my old age?

Good call Route Rock. The M&StL did indeed have passenger service between Okaloosa and Peoria that crossed the Mississippi though I think that by 1950 it was down to just a mixed train.

Mark

[KCSfan]

Did C&EI sneak-in on TRRA, A&S, IT or Manufacturer's?

Did Frisco sneak across the river to hook-up via A&S?

MC,

I purposedly limited my question to passenger trains because I wasn't really sure of the situation at St.L and NO. I think the freight trains of the roads that served both cities stopped at one side or the other of the Miss and cross river movements were by trains of the TRRA and NOPB. There may have been exceptions but I really don't know.

Mark

[arkansasrailfan]

Since CShave got most of units, it's his turn.
There were six SD70ace heritage units, SD70ace GW 4141, The UP GE painted unit, the United Way loco(heard it was sitting in Fort Worth, Desert Storm(probably gone), and the SD70m and Sd40-2 duos painted for the 2002 and 1996 Olymipics.

[CShaveRR]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

[Texas Zepher]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

[arkansasrailfan]

Gaw, another riddle!!! I'm guessing that the engine was from the BN merger. And that the unit was SLSF.

[oltmannd]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

D&H GP39-2 76xx

It's a WAG, but the best I have....

[al-in-chgo]

I haven't as clue, but does it involve the SF/SP livery from (IIRC) late eighties/early nineties?  -  a.s.

[arkansasrailfan]

Anyone else qualified to ask a question after that one?  As a UP employee, I should have disqualified myself.  Someone else is welcome to a turn.

Well with an invitation like that.  Let me know if this question is out of line as the original post on this thread talked about dates. I'll see if I can do this without making it too hard or too easy. 

I was the last locomotive to officially carry the colors of my original home road after a major-merger.  The unique thing is that I went to scrap in this fresh coat of paint, after wearing it for only about 3 months. This was about 8 years after the merger!  I was painted into this scheme from the new merged colors.  My locomotive class was the last to carry the original home road colors of one of the other parent companies involved in the merger.  Final hint, one of the OTHER parent companies owned zero locomotives of my class coming into the merger.

What specific loco am I?    Make, model, Roadname, number.

D&H GP39-2 76xx

It's a WAG, but the best I have....

whats WAG?

[Texas Zepher]

Gaw, another riddle!!! I'm guessing that the engine was from the BN merger. And that the unit was SLSF.

The BN merger part is correct. That should make it much easier.

I haven't as clue, but does it involve the SF/SP livery from (IIRC) late eighties/early nineties?

No.

[Texas Zepher]

D&H GP39-2 76xx  ...It's a WAG,

Knowing nothing about the D&H I can not speculate on how close a WAG (Wild Asx Guess) that was.  It is not the answer I'm looking for.

[arkansasrailfan]

ohhh, that's what a WAG is. So the unit was from the SLSF, right?

[trainfan1221]

I was gonna guess "Hustle Muscle", the first SD45.  But as far as I know it isn't scrapped.  I am confused at the part where it was painted back to the original colors, not the new ones, right before scrapping?  Maybe for a special event?

[arkansasrailfan]

it is painted in it's original colors and is preserved at a museum

[Texas Zepher]

So the unit was from the SLSF, right?

No.

I was gonna guess "Hustle Muscle", the first SD45.  But as far as I know it isn't scrapped.

Correct in the part where Huste Muscle is still out there and I think has been repainted into Empire Builder colors.  Incorrect in that is not the loco in question.

I am confused at the part where it was painted back to the original colors, not the new ones, right before scrapping?  Maybe for a special event?

Yes, you are on the right track, it was a special event.

it is painted in it's original colors and is preserved at a museum

No, that would have been way cool though.  It should have been.  That is the most ironic part of the story, where it went to scrap in this relatively brand new paint.   The photo that I have of the unit is of it sitting bright and shinny in the scrap yard line.

[passengerfan]

It was an NP unit that was painted back to NP colors for a lawsuit brought against the RR. Can't remember the model or roadnumber.

Al - in - Stockton

[passengerfan]

Sometimes it pays to sleep on something. As I recall the unit was actually an ex SP&S Alco that was painted into old NP colors for a lawsuit. The NP had already scrapped the actual unit that was involved in the incident and the BN merger had since taken place. The unit was repainted into the NP colors and after the court case was sent to scrap wearing the new paint. Am I close.

Al - in - Stockton  

[Texas Zepher]

Sometimes it pays to sleep on something. As I recall the unit was actually an ex SP&S Alco that was painted into old NP colors for a lawsuit. The NP had already scrapped the actual unit that was involved in the incident and the BN merger had since taken place. The unit was repainted into the NP colors and after the court case was sent to scrap wearing the new paint. Am I close.

That is the situation.  It was used for a re-enactment of a grade crossing accident.   Now all we need is the class and unit number.  I'm looking for the unit number of the re-enactment paint scheme.

[arkansasrailfan]

I'm guessing it was a Alco C636

[Texas Zepher]

I'm guessing it was a Alco C636

Right manufacturer wrong class.  As it seems this question has run out of steam the answer is in the Burlington Northern 1977-1980 Annual.  BN unit 4082 was repainted back to NP colors on May 26, 1978 to recreate a crossing accident.   It carried the 4082 # in NP colors with "BN" initials under the road number on the cab. Oh yeah, the original unit was NP #858 not an SP&S unit.

There is another interesting trivia question to which I don't know the answer.  Other than this unit what was the last unit that carried the NP canoe paint scheme?  

I give credit to answering this one to passengerfan because he answered the hardest part of the question.   Passengerfan - your turn.

[passengerfan]

Name the predecessor passenger trains to the Internationals on the Seattle - Vancouver BC route operated by the GN?

Al - in - Stockton

[passengerfan]

Come on it's an easy question?

I will make it easy it was the day trains.

Al - in - Stockton

[al-in-chgo]

Come on it's an easy question?

I will make it easy it was the day trains.

Al - in - Stockton

The only way I could figure out the answer is to consult an old Off. Guide to the Rwys., and maybe not even then.  - a.s.

 

[Texas Zepher]

Name the predecessor passenger trains to the Internationals on the Seattle - Vancouver BC route operated by the GN?

Train #358?  I didn't know it had a name.

[passengerfan]

The two trains were the Morning Puget Sounder and Afternoon Puget Sounder and both operated right up to the introduction of the Streamlined Internationals.

Anyone else with a question.

Al - in - Stockton