I'm obviously in a distinct minority here, but I like the current BNSF scheme. I think it's pretty sharp, and it has throwbacks to some BNSF predecessor color schemes (Great Northern in particular). I never did like the BN green - it looked (to me, at least) like someone had simply dipped the carbody in a vat of cheap paint, and it didn't weather well either. The last BN scheme (the multicolor scheme that their executive and newer freight engines used) was classy, but not long lived. The SF warbonnet scheme, of course, was a favorite with everyone.
I suspect if you grew up with the SF part of BNSF seeing orange engines looks odd. I grew up where GN was the big railroad, and of course the first "heritage" paint schemes were based on the old GN Pullman Green - Omaha Orange scheme, although now black has replaced the green. I think the first version with the round herald looked better than the elongated one used later BTW. Of course in my area the Milwaukee was a big player too so orange engines are 'normal' to me.
SchemerBob Orange happens to be my favorite color... That said, I think that the BNSF paint scheme is very sharp, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Remember, these units are not all orange - if they were, I would agree that they would look somewhat strange. It's the yellow and black/green with the orange that makes the paint scheme. Let's face it - Orange, yellow and black IS the BNSF, just like black & white is the Norfolk Southern. It's their paint scheme, and it is very neat, because it's unique from all the others. Frankly I wonder how anybody can see one of those shiny new ES44's or SD70ACe's in BNSF Heritage III and not think "what a sharp locomotive!" Take a look at this, and say "this paint scheme is ugly". I can't do it, and I can't believe other people can! " src="http://cs.trains.com/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_shock.gif">http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=144185&nseq=244
Orange happens to be my favorite color...
That said, I think that the BNSF paint scheme is very sharp, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Remember, these units are not all orange - if they were, I would agree that they would look somewhat strange. It's the yellow and black/green with the orange that makes the paint scheme. Let's face it - Orange, yellow and black IS the BNSF, just like black & white is the Norfolk Southern. It's their paint scheme, and it is very neat, because it's unique from all the others.
Frankly I wonder how anybody can see one of those shiny new ES44's or SD70ACe's in BNSF Heritage III and not think "what a sharp locomotive!"
Take a look at this, and say "this paint scheme is ugly". I can't do it, and I can't believe other people can! " src="http://cs.trains.com/trccs/emoticons/icon_smile_shock.gif">http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=144185&nseq=244
I think the BNSF colors are awesome. My favorite scheme is the H3. To me it's very sharp. I've seen the H1, H2 and H3 scheme. I rate the H3 scheme the best. I have model trains that have that scheme on them. I have pictures of that scheme. I also got a T-Shirt with that scheme. I really like BNSF and CSX. I really don't like NS for one reason but I'll accept it anyway and that reason is is it's black and white when on the new BNSF you got Black, Orange, Yellow and White. NS to me when I see it, it reminds me of watching through a Black and White TV. The only thing I like on there engines is the Horse Symbol. Also another reason why I don't like them is because on there mainline or road they don't put really any other road on there mainline. I went railfanning at Berea Ohio once for 5 hours and I saw 35 trains counting both CSX and NS. On the CSX 10 out of the 35 trains I saw were CSX and the rest were BNSF and UP and also SP. The rest of the trains on the NS were NS accept one UP Engine. That's why I really don't like filming NS. You'll always see it. I like it though but I hate it. You know what I mean.
I miss the old BN the big logos on the nose the pilot strobe lights and there lease power.
And the sound of the SD40-2's climing Stevens Pass.
Mookie Doc - I think you and I are the only ones on the forum and possibly in the world that think the Ugly Orange paint scheme stinks. Of all the colors in the spectrum, what made them come up with "Shriek Orange" is beyond me. And I don't want to hear that it is to be noticed. I see NS every so often and it never fails to get my attention. Cheap I can understand - they really did get what they paid for..... Mook!
Doc - I think you and I are the only ones on the forum and possibly in the world that think the Ugly Orange paint scheme stinks. Of all the colors in the spectrum, what made them come up with "Shriek Orange" is beyond me.
And I don't want to hear that it is to be noticed. I see NS every so often and it never fails to get my attention.
Cheap I can understand - they really did get what they paid for.....
Mook!
I dont think its ugly persay but it sure is LOUD and bleeding ! Its really hard to look at on video sometimes...I think they should have stuck with the fist H1 scheme(pumpkin) myself...
Well, for all you 'orange' lovers - saw an engine with the cab the darker orange they are using presently and all along the one side was the faded "pink" of what looked like an old SD70 paint scheme. (mix and match doors)
Makes my black and pin stripes sound a whole lot better!
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NightrainAFD1987 wrote: SD60M wrote:Tell you the truth they should have left BN and ATSF units alone they could have split them into this catagory BN green on the new EMD's and the Warbonnet on the GE's! They could have a little BNSF logo somewhere on the units and let the BN and ATSF logos stay. True BN loco's are becoming a rare sight and ATSF units are just fading away, the patches they put on both BN and ATSF units are just plain ugly too! Bring back the BN and ATSF logos please!!! now that would be awesome! I would love to see more Blue Bonnets roaming around, *thinks about Blue Bonnets painted on the Gevos, MAc's and ACe's*
SD60M wrote:Tell you the truth they should have left BN and ATSF units alone they could have split them into this catagory BN green on the new EMD's and the Warbonnet on the GE's! They could have a little BNSF logo somewhere on the units and let the BN and ATSF logos stay. True BN loco's are becoming a rare sight and ATSF units are just fading away, the patches they put on both BN and ATSF units are just plain ugly too! Bring back the BN and ATSF logos please!!!
now that would be awesome! I would love to see more Blue Bonnets roaming around, *thinks about Blue Bonnets painted on the Gevos, MAc's and ACe's*
The wide-cab cowl SDF40-2's looked good in blue bonnet colors, so they probably wouldn't look to bad on the ES44's, ACe's and such. I bet BNSF will come out with heritage locomotives sometime soon....
NightrainAFD1987 wrote: How about we just paint the BNSF locos like this:...then everyone can be happy
How about we just paint the BNSF locos like this:...
then everyone can be happy
Totally awesome Dude...how about a toke?
NightrainAFD1987 wrote: Personally, my favorites have always been the H2 locos...but I never had a problem with the orange, it's visable enough, and it's unique
Personally, my favorites have always been the H2 locos...but I never had a problem with the orange, it's visable enough, and it's unique
Actually, I've been impressed with the way H2 looks on some of the early ES44DC's. While I think Heritage III stands out better, Heritage II was also good. H1 is neat as well, but it mainly looks good on the GeeP's and SD's. All and all, though, BNSF's paint schemes are unique and they look great.
SchemerBob wrote: NightrainAFD1987 wrote: How about we just paint the BNSF locos like this:...then everyone can be happy Interesting ---looks like a graffiti-sprayed freight car. Not sure whether that would go well on a locomotive... Besides, there's nothing wrong with the BNSF paint scheme. It grows on you. To think, when BNSF first put out their new "wedge" logo, I didn't like it at all. Now, I think it's the best, and it goes well with the orange/black/yellow paint scheme! If you don't like it now, give it some time...
Interesting ---
looks like a graffiti-sprayed freight car. Not sure whether that would go well on a locomotive...
Besides, there's nothing wrong with the BNSF paint scheme. It grows on you. To think, when BNSF first put out their new "wedge" logo, I didn't like it at all. Now, I think it's the best, and it goes well with the orange/black/yellow paint scheme! If you don't like it now, give it some time...
Your friendly neighborhood CNW fan.
Mookie wrote: Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors. Your paint can then fade even to shade of gray and look nice. Black with just a little color - yes even the orange would look nice for many years. And I would think it would be easy to touch up - since we are seeing the older SD70's in orange and burn marks around the motor doors. I know paint jobs are expensive, but advertising ain't cheap and this could be combined under a black and pinstripe/swoop. Think practicality.
Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors. Your paint can then fade even to shade of gray and look nice.
Black with just a little color - yes even the orange would look nice for many years. And I would think it would be easy to touch up - since we are seeing the older SD70's in orange and burn marks around the motor doors.
I know paint jobs are expensive, but advertising ain't cheap and this could be combined under a black and pinstripe/swoop. Think practicality.
Black looks great on locomotives. I always thought the IC had something going with their black scheme. They added a little white, plus some green in their logo for an accent. And don't forget those classy little hoods that they mounted over their classification lights. Who else did that?
Andrew Falconer wrote:The BNSF Bright Orange color scheme for Locomotives is right for the Southern States and it stands out in the Northern States.CP has already taken Deep Red and Bright Red.UP has already taken Yellow.CN uses an Orange-RedCSX uses YellowNS uses Black & White.
The BNSF Bright Orange color scheme for Locomotives is right for the Southern States and it stands out in the Northern States.
CP has already taken Deep Red and Bright Red.
UP has already taken Yellow.
CN uses an Orange-Red
CSX uses Yellow
NS uses Black & White.
there's just no love for green....
and you said UP and CSX both took yellow. i do believe CSX is moerso blue than yellow
About 11:55AM today, I was in Kirkwood and saw the Pacific local go through. The lead locomotive was a standard UP but the second was HLTX, I believe #4828. They were both older diesels, GP35 or such, (I can't tell diesels apart) and the HLTX had a shiny new paint job which looked close to Rock Island maroon. The only decoration were the letters on the hood, the number on the cab, and chevrons on the nose, all in white.
Now there's an idea for anyone. It looked quite good and should weather nicely.
Although I like dark colored locos, I agree that I wouldn't want to work in one.
zugmann wrote: Anyone who thinks that locos should be all black should be sentenced to sit in one in the summer sun for a day. You would not believe how hot they get. I like the BNSF engines for their real seats and window washers. So much nicer than our hunks of junk. Mookie wrote:Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors. Your paint can then fade even to shade of gray and look nice. Black with just a little color - yes even the orange would look nice for many years. And I would think it would be easy to touch up - since we are seeing the older SD70's in orange and burn marks around the motor doors. I know paint jobs are expensive, but advertising ain't cheap and this could be combined under a black and pinstripe/swoop. Think practicality.
Anyone who thinks that locos should be all black should be sentenced to sit in one in the summer sun for a day. You would not believe how hot they get.
I like the BNSF engines for their real seats and window washers. So much nicer than our hunks of junk.
Mookie wrote:Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors. Your paint can then fade even to shade of gray and look nice. Black with just a little color - yes even the orange would look nice for many years. And I would think it would be easy to touch up - since we are seeing the older SD70's in orange and burn marks around the motor doors. I know paint jobs are expensive, but advertising ain't cheap and this could be combined under a black and pinstripe/swoop. Think practicality.
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Mookie wrote: Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors........................................Black with just a little color
Paint them all black. Pinstripe and swoop in different colors........................
................Black with just a little color
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*peeks out of shed* I still like the orange! It's AWESOME!
Yes there is room for anyone who wishes to join
*goes back into shed*
That leaves BNSF to stand out using Orange with Black & Yellow markings. The BNSF color scheme is similar to the Genesee & Wyoming color choices.
Should BNSF actually combine NP Gold and Santa Fe Silver in a new paint scheme to satisfy all interested in the BNSF? It would be hard to have Gold and Silver on the same loco body without seperation usiing Red Stripes in a flourishing manner.
Andrew
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NightrainAFD1987 wrote: I actually like the orange locos *dives into fire retardant shed*
I actually like the orange locos
*dives into fire retardant shed*
I think I'll come with you...
NightrainAFD1987 wrote:I actually like the orange locos *dives into fire retardant shed*
yeah! me too! sure beats armour yellow any day of the week!
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