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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:39 PM

Mark,

As Ted correctly guessed, they are EMD G8 export locomotives, formerly Korean National Rail...they came via rail to .....(waiting for Ted's guess) and were loaded into a ship bound for the Canal and South America...these and the G12/G16 are almost as numerous overseas and GPs are here...they are used on almost ever railroad in South America, and quite a few in Europe.

 

Here is something else for Ted, or anyone else to guess at...although it was already posted a while ago.

 

What are they, where are they going and who owns them?

 

 

This last image shows an EMD export G12 in South America, working for ALL, photo courtesy of a friend in Brazil.

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:52 PM

To answer the first question...their final U.S. destination was Houston/Galveston.

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:10 PM
To answer the second question: This is an EMD SD70ACe/lc, bound for use in Austailia by BHP Iron Ore. It is easily distinguished by the safety stripes on the plow.
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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:10 PM

And this is...?

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:38 PM
 edblysard wrote:

And this is...?

Is it an NRE E-series freight locomotive?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:42 AM
That is definitely one of NRE's E-series export locomotives, en route to Africa, probably Kenya.
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:51 AM
Yes and yes, headed to a soda ash mine if I remember correctly.

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Posted by MStLfan on Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:52 AM

The destination is Magadi Soda in Kenya. Don't know the type but didn't this subject / order come a couple months ago? If I remember correctly they use cap gauge in Kenya.

Website Magadi Soda:

http://www.magadisoda.co.ke/index.htm

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:54 AM

And this?

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Posted by MStLfan on Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:01 AM

One of those retrucked metre gauge sd40's out Pedrop's way in Brazil?

greetings,

Marc Immeker

PS Read somewhere that former JZ diesels (Yugoslavia) are finding their way to the US too.Do you have a picture of them too?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:01 AM
I know one of these for once!  (I remember what Pedro said.)  I'll keep quiet to see if anyone else can chime in.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:30 AM
For those who are not familiar, Cape gauge is 3' 6", found in South Africa, Queensland, Western Australia, some other former British possessions and formerly in Newfoundland.
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Posted by Ted Marshall on Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:45 PM
 marcimmeker wrote:

One of those retrucked metre gauge sd40's out Pedrop's way in Brazil?

 Amazingly, I am stumped so I will bow to Marc's better knowledge on this one. In all of my travels I've never seen a non-snoot SD40 with a front porch that long. Also, the pilot seems a bit unusual for an SD40 as well.

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Posted by MStLfan on Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:06 PM

If I remember Pedrop's comments correctly, they had to do some work to get those trucks under the locomotives.

It's in one of his threads somewhere.

edit: http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/975575/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:11 PM

I got it...It's an EMD DDM45. Am I right?

 

 

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:46 PM

Marc has it..a re trucked SD40...Pedro says they are classified as SD40 B+Bs....narrow gage...they cast the trucks in Brazil, along with the bolsters, I don't remember which traction motors they use, but the additional axles and traction motors make it rate tractive effort it at the equivalent of a 3000hp unit.

They modified the rear hood also, to fit in the tunnels this locomotive has to use...he said they chopped it 6 inches to make the fan shrouds clear.

Same place, different view of the same locomotive...

Also Brazil...a GE with the same treatment..

Another narrow gage GE...looks kinda funny on those narrow tracks.

 We have shipped some where around 100 locomotives to Brazil over the last two or three years...not all are converted to narrow gage, note the dual gage tracks in the last photo...

Last time around it was a bunch of EMDs...the time before that, something like ten GE B30-7As...BN's cabless boosters.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 24, 2007 6:46 PM
 edblysard wrote:

And this?

And THAT.... is a monster!!!!!!Alien [alien]

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, August 24, 2007 7:44 PM

.....Ed, that "porch" extended out front reminds me back in the steam days of the Big Boys....They seemed to be extended out beyond the boiler/ smoke box as your  unusual diesel you show.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 24, 2007 8:25 PM

A EMD G12, the work horse of South America, although they have a good collection of Alco S2s

And a GE,  riding on a temporary bogie, then up on jacks for conversion to B+B trucks.

 

 

Lastly, a visual of the difference in height between a EMD G16 and a American GE.

All photos courtesy of Pedro, my buddy in Brazil.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:44 AM
With the sale to the Brazilian railroads of all those old GE's and various SD40's, Brazil is one of the few places where locomotives of both North American and export design work side by side, sometimes even in the same consist.
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:02 AM

 CSSHEGEWISCH wrote:
With the sale to the Brazilian railroads of all those old GE's and various SD40's, Brazil is one of the few places where locomotives of both North American and export design work side by side, sometimes even in the same consist.

I guess you could call the MU cable a 'Universal Translator' then? 

SD40: "Hey 526, let's get goin' "!

G 16: "Que?"

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:17 PM

A control stand in the G12...from what I can tell, it is in English...but you gotta love the reverser handle, a "rebar T bar"....

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