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BNSF SD40-2 to the Rescue? Winchester & Western covered hoppers.

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BNSF SD40-2 to the Rescue? Winchester & Western covered hoppers.
Posted by UP 829 on Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:46 AM
Saw an interesting train crawl through eastbound on the BN racetrack yesterday. 2 NS GE 44's sandwiched around a green BNSF SD40-2. The lead GE was laboring pretty good, the -2 screaming for all it was worth, and the 2nd GE was shut down. Not sure if this was a rescue or a fuel saving move. The train consisted mainly of clean 2 bay covered hoppers, many nearly new and neatly marked with a Winchester & Western herald. Anyone know anything about this road and what they haul? My first thought was an ammo train for Winchester arms but then I recalled they were bought by Olin.
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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:40 AM

The Railroad is in Virginia.

To search for it on the web type in: Virginia Winchester & Western

 http://www.varail.com/ww/wwhome.html 

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Posted by fifedog on Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:49 AM
The Winchester & Western is headquartered in Winchester,VA.  It runs from Hagerstown, MD to Gore, VA.  The covered hoppers may be loaded with sand from the Unimin quarry near Gore.  They still run a fleet of first generation geeps.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, July 29, 2007 4:09 PM
Did you happen to get numbers off those new-looking WW hoppers?  There are quite an assortment of car designs in the WW fleet--the newest ones I know of were built in Canada by the National Steel Car Corporation.

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Posted by miniwyo on Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:06 PM
I would estimate that there are 50-60 of almost brand new looking 2 bay hoppers loaded with Frac Sand sitting here in Rock Springs.

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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:32 PM

 miniwyo wrote:
I would estimate that there are 50-60 of almost brand new looking 2 bay hoppers loaded with Frac Sand sitting here in Rock Springs.

They are frequent visitors to the oil field services companies in Bakersfield, CA.

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Posted by UP 829 on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:09 AM
I didn't get any numbers off the hoppers. The train I saw them in on Saturday also had a large number of new plain grey hoppers with what I think were leasing company reporting marks. I spent a couple of hours watching the racetrack on Sunday morning and saw 3 more general freights that looked like they belonged to NS. They had the center track all tied up and one came through eastbound on the westbound main. These had a few more WW hoppers mixed in. BN trains I would normally expect to see were all running on the Eastbound main so I'm guessing there was some kind of detour or derailment somewhere?
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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:12 AM
Could have been run through power.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:37 AM

Winchester & Western has a fleet of Off-White ACF CENTER FLOW 2-Bay Covered Hoppers that are about 3000 Cubic Foot Capacity. Is this the type of covered hopper?

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Posted by SALfan on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:59 PM
Am I just delusional (again), or is my memory playing tricks?  I thought Winchester & Western ran on a former Western Maryland line up in Maryland which was mainly east-west.  Or, have they evolved into running Hagerstown MD to Gore VA?  Thanks.
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Posted by fifedog on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:29 PM
JOdom - I think you are refering to the MARYLAND MIDLAND.
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Posted by MP57313 on Wednesday, August 1, 2007 12:42 AM

 fifedog wrote:
The Winchester & Western is headquartered in Winchester,VA.  It runs from Hagerstown, MD to Gore, VA.  The covered hoppers may be loaded with sand from the Unimin quarry near Gore. 

Per the Northeast SPV Atlas, the WW also operates some former Jersey Central trackage in the pine barrens of southern New Jersey.  Same freight - sand.

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Posted by UP 829 on Wednesday, August 1, 2007 6:42 AM
 Andrew Falconer wrote:

Winchester & Western has a fleet of Off-White ACF CENTER FLOW 2-Bay Covered Hoppers that are about 3000 Cubic Foot Capacity. Is this the type of covered hopper?

Andrew

I didn't notice the capacity, but they're small(~40') 2 bay hoppers that would be used for sand, cement, etc. Searching Goggle groups I found a post that mentioned the sand is used for making some special kind of glass.

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Posted by SALfan on Wednesday, August 1, 2007 10:29 AM

 fifedog wrote:
JOdom - I think you are refering to the MARYLAND MIDLAND.

 Thanks, I think you're right.  Guess I was having a senior moment (again).

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Posted by route_rock on Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:43 PM

  Actually UP we can run either east or west on all those tracks there.The middle or Main two is a DS favorite to get Manifest trains or empties out of the hair of Metra trainsI have come out of Cicero on all three mains . So seeing them on one or the other usually means heavy trraffic a derailment or the DS wanting to drive you nuts lol.

  All the power is probably runthrough. Cant picture why they would have a SD-40 in the lead on a hot day!! LOL was used to that little trick.

  Now if they had enough power( or overpowered HA like that happens on trains out of Chicago!!) you have to shut down other units to keep your horsepower per ton at the scheduled level to save fuel.

Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train

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