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<P>One other minor thing that may have minimized Milwaukee's impact in the PNW was that Milwaukee didn't make it down to Portland until 1970.  UP, GN, and NP all had access to both the Puget Sound ports of Tacoma and Seattle, and Portland.  Milwaukee only made it down to Longview, a minor port on the Columbia.  That's 60 years of only getting maybe 2/3 of the PNW traffic base, and may have contributed to Milwaukee's first few bankruptcies</P> <P>So, for CNW to have a sustainable PNW transcon, it may very well be that they would have needed more than just a western terminus in Newport or Coos Bay.  My thoughts are that building a line north from Corvalis to tap Portland wouldn't have been so difficult, but getting up to the Puget Sound would have been another story.  Perhaps this would have been a scenario where CNW and Milwaukee could have teamed up, with Milwaukee getting down to Portland and Coos Bay via CNW's "I-5" tracks, and CNW conversely getting up to Tacoma and Seattle via Milwaukee's "I-5" line.  Even so, they probably would have had to build their own bridge across the Columbia, probably between Longview and Rainier OR, since it is unlikely JJ Hill and Eddy Harriman would have allowed CNW/Milwaukee across the SP&S bridge between Portland and Vancouver WA.</P>
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