Limitedclear wrote: Trackage or haulage rights even won't work over a significant portion of a route because they are generally non-compensatory to the tenant road and because the owning road maintains operational control making the economics even worse for the tenant road.
Trackage or haulage rights even won't work over a significant portion of a route because they are generally non-compensatory to the tenant road and because the owning road maintains operational control making the economics even worse for the tenant road.
For whatever it's worth, BN/BNSF requested and was granted trackage rights over 3,600 miles of UP/SP trackage.
Presumably BN/BNSF concluded that the "economics" of being a tenant road were favorable.
Perhaps they had not consulted with the right people.
futuremodal wrote: Limitedclear wrote: futuremodal wrote: Limitedclear wrote: Just exposing your pigheaded ignorance again FM...FOFLMAO...you are truly an idiot... LC Thank you, LC, for proving once again that you absolutely cannot carry on a conversation without spouting out inane insults. I hope Bert, Tom, Murphy, et al, will finally take note and admit that it is the folks like you and EdB that ALWAYS resort to insults when their line of reasoning falters. I also hope Bergie will take note, if indeed the TRAINS staff desires a forum based on decorum. I won't bother to comment on your inability to converge your own posts regarding toll railroads. Suffice it to say that one who in one post claims "toll railroads will never work" then admit in the next post that "overhead traffic does pay a nice premium", such a person is incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation with himself, let alone others. Yep, same pattern, same idiot... I never said what you have misquoted. Obviously you are confusing me with the post after mine by CSSHEGEWISCH. If you are gonna use quotation marks get it right, stupid. Quothe LC before the CSSHEGEWISCH post "Most railroads would do well with added traffic from any source." That right there is an admission of the benefits of hosting overhead traffic, which absolutely counters your claim of "toll railroads won't work". Obviously, you don't even read your own posts. You would do well to try and read what you actually typed before spouting off further.
Limitedclear wrote: futuremodal wrote: Limitedclear wrote: Just exposing your pigheaded ignorance again FM...FOFLMAO...you are truly an idiot... LC Thank you, LC, for proving once again that you absolutely cannot carry on a conversation without spouting out inane insults. I hope Bert, Tom, Murphy, et al, will finally take note and admit that it is the folks like you and EdB that ALWAYS resort to insults when their line of reasoning falters. I also hope Bergie will take note, if indeed the TRAINS staff desires a forum based on decorum. I won't bother to comment on your inability to converge your own posts regarding toll railroads. Suffice it to say that one who in one post claims "toll railroads will never work" then admit in the next post that "overhead traffic does pay a nice premium", such a person is incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation with himself, let alone others. Yep, same pattern, same idiot... I never said what you have misquoted. Obviously you are confusing me with the post after mine by CSSHEGEWISCH. If you are gonna use quotation marks get it right, stupid.
futuremodal wrote: Limitedclear wrote: Just exposing your pigheaded ignorance again FM...FOFLMAO...you are truly an idiot... LC Thank you, LC, for proving once again that you absolutely cannot carry on a conversation without spouting out inane insults. I hope Bert, Tom, Murphy, et al, will finally take note and admit that it is the folks like you and EdB that ALWAYS resort to insults when their line of reasoning falters. I also hope Bergie will take note, if indeed the TRAINS staff desires a forum based on decorum. I won't bother to comment on your inability to converge your own posts regarding toll railroads. Suffice it to say that one who in one post claims "toll railroads will never work" then admit in the next post that "overhead traffic does pay a nice premium", such a person is incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation with himself, let alone others.
Limitedclear wrote: Just exposing your pigheaded ignorance again FM...FOFLMAO...you are truly an idiot... LC
Just exposing your pigheaded ignorance again FM...FOFLMAO...you are truly an idiot...
LC
Thank you, LC, for proving once again that you absolutely cannot carry on a conversation without spouting out inane insults. I hope Bert, Tom, Murphy, et al, will finally take note and admit that it is the folks like you and EdB that ALWAYS resort to insults when their line of reasoning falters. I also hope Bergie will take note, if indeed the TRAINS staff desires a forum based on decorum.
I won't bother to comment on your inability to converge your own posts regarding toll railroads. Suffice it to say that one who in one post claims "toll railroads will never work" then admit in the next post that "overhead traffic does pay a nice premium", such a person is incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation with himself, let alone others.
Yep, same pattern, same idiot...
I never said what you have misquoted. Obviously you are confusing me with the post after mine by CSSHEGEWISCH. If you are gonna use quotation marks get it right, stupid.
Quothe LC before the CSSHEGEWISCH post "Most railroads would do well with added traffic from any source." That right there is an admission of the benefits of hosting overhead traffic, which absolutely counters your claim of "toll railroads won't work".
Obviously, you don't even read your own posts. You would do well to try and read what you actually typed before spouting off further.
Well, at least you actually quoted me this time, of course you took it out of context, big surprise...
There is a significant difference between overhead traffic and this so called "toll" traffic you suggest. As I have already noted, the key is the ability to control the traffic and to accept or reject that traffic or business line that is compensatory for the track owner rather than having a flood of trains with their EZ Pass on the cab jostling for position for their trip down FM's "Phantom Tollway". Overhead traffic isn't always a bad thing, nor is it always a good thing...it certainly doesn't guarantee a "premium" (wherever FM made that up from). But, I'm done arguing with a stone from Idaho for today...
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